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I wish the Blackfire wasn’t so expensive. I got a few 16oz bottle via free gifts and I gotta tell ya my towels have never been so soft and fluffy. It even made towels that are close to death come back to life


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Ever try the 3D?
 
I have not yet. I’ve got a bottle of the Blackfire left and then a gallon of micro restore then it’s towel Kleen. I’ve tried griots and McKees so far. They work but nothing like the Blackfire


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I have not yet. I’ve got a bottle of the Blackfire left and then a gallon of micro restore then it’s towel Kleen. I’ve tried griots and McKees so far. They work but nothing like the Blackfire


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Great info.

The 3D works very well, and you can't beat the price.
 
I was back and forth on that and the micro restore. Decided I’d try micro restore especially with the discount. But once gone I will be comparing to 3D to see what it’s all about and see if I have same results as fly07sti. Curious if water hardness will play into this at like it seems to have in the thread on OCW and the rinseless wash debate lol


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I was back and forth on that and the micro restore. Decided I’d try micro restore especially with the discount. But once gone I will be comparing to 3D to see what it’s all about and see if I have same results as fly07sti. Curious if water hardness will play into this at like it seems to have in the thread on OCW and the rinseless wash debate lol


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I’ve used the old label BF and it worked well, but it’s no better than Micro Restore or Towel Kleen. I’ll send you some TK if you wanna try it out.
 
I was back and forth on that and the micro restore. Decided I’d try micro restore especially with the discount. But once gone I will be comparing to 3D to see what it’s all about and see if I have same results as fly07sti. Curious if water hardness will play into this at like it seems to have in the thread on OCW and the rinseless wash debate lol


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I'm thinking water quality affects everything we discuss the more I read on here.
 
Great info.

The 3D works very well, and you can't beat the price.

True that.

I was just buying whatever free and clear detergent was cheapest at the store, but 3D towel kleen is like.. 13 bucks on sale. Whether or not I thought I needed mf specific detergent, it was basically the same price, if not cheaper, than buying what i was already buying.

So that’s what I use, and it’s been pretty solid.


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True that.

I was just buying whatever free and clear detergent was cheapest at the store, but 3D towel kleen is like.. 13 bucks on sale. Whether or not I thought I needed mf specific detergent, it was basically the same price, if not cheaper, than buying what i was already buying.

So that’s what I use, and it’s been pretty solid.


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It’s $24/gallon now
 
Oh my goodness. Why are you breaking my heart


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Fin...... a gallon will last you about 2 years as a hobbyist.

A buck a month for two years ain't bad!
 
Fin...... a gallon will last you about 2 years as a hobbyist.

A buck a month for two years ain't bad!

Lol I know, I’m just playin.

I’ve probably had my gallon for over a year (just dug through like 3 accounts of orders and couldn’t find it) and I’m only halfway through it so it doesn’t really matter a whole lot


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I’ve used the old label BF and it worked well, but it’s no better than Micro Restore or Towel Kleen. I’ll send you some TK if you wanna try it out.

I appreciate the offer. I’ll try and use up what I’ve got at the moment. There is enough for quite a while.


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I’m using the Griots wich the recommend mixing with and free and clear. Night and day difference using against F&C alone. I have 3D Kleen and feel the towels are touch softer with the Griots mix. With the price on the 5 gallon that will now be my go to.

Anyone know shelf life?


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Order 1 of 2. P&S bug off because cheap and why not for a gallon. Pre soak was between that and griots but this was smaller and a tad cheaper so figured Iess room and may use up faster. Tarx as Gyeon was meh and it was cheaper than the McKees which I will try next. GTechniq for carpets and seat covers in my rides. Boss 6.5” pads...never have to many. And a free sticker for the collection
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Order 1 of 2. P&S bug off because cheap and why not for a gallon. Pre soak was between that and griots but this was smaller and a tad cheaper so figured Iess room and may use up faster. Tarx as Gyeon was meh and it was cheaper than the McKees which I will try next. GTechniq for carpets and seat covers in my rides. Boss 6.5” pads...never have to many. And a free sticker for the collection
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Debating this in a cheap foam cannon. Only person I could find on the forums that has used the super pre soak was fly07sti. Short of it was even he wasn’t sure the cannon would hold up to this stuff so unsure if I could run a 1/4-1/2 oz in a cannon. He did say his dilution worked well though in the 5gal bucket. I will be bouncing ideas off him I’m sure


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Got some products from sale domestic. Some new products from Sonax. Spray and Seal I have used before with great results and this is my 3rd bottle of it. Like the little more warmer look Sonax gives me.

Sonax Spray and Seal.
Sonax Wheel Cleaner Max Effect. A new even stronger than the Plus that I use. I save this for the really dirty wheels and when preping for protection. As it's very expensive $22 At retail price. But worth a try out at least LOL.
Sonax Rich Foam Schampoo with berry smell. New prewash foam that also work in a bucket wash. Got the same from another place but with the Red Bull smell LOL. Will be interesting to see how it stands up to the other prewash foams I use.
Sonax Bug and Tar sponge if needed. Useally use these on the glass when needed to be more cleaning ability.
CRC High Temp Grease. Will be testing this in the polishers I have.

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Also got the new 2019 version of Gyeon Wet Coat with a claimed 50% longer longevity from it. Will see if I use it on a vehicals paint or if it's been used as a wheel protection only. Such an easy way to apply protection.

/ Tony
 
Order 1 of 2. P&S bug off because cheap and why not for a gallon. Pre soak was between that and griots but this was smaller and a tad cheaper so figured Iess room and may use up faster. Tarx as Gyeon was meh and it was cheaper than the McKees which I will try next. GTechniq for carpets and seat covers in my rides. Boss 6.5” pads...never have to many. And a free sticker for the collection
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Is a TFR like this wax/sealant safe? I’m guessing not but idk.


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Thanks Tony. Let us know how you feel about Gyeon Wet Coat. I've been looking at that.
 
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