Product Review: BlackFire Crystal Coat Paint Coating

tedj101 said:
Interesting point. How do the towels clean up? Are they usable again or does the coating dry on the towels...

Thanks,
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As soon as I was done with a towel I threw it into a bucket of water mixed with DP Polishing Pad Rejuvenator.

The towels are still soaking, haven't had a chance to wash them yet, hopefully they will be okay.
 
FrankS said:
Nice review Mike!

I detailed a Range Rover over the weekend using the BF Paint Coating. Will be posting soon.

Nice coating, a little goes a long way. I noticed that when wiping down the high spots you should change to a clean side of the towel often or it can get a little grabby.
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Thanks Frank!

Will be on the lookout for it.

RPM_BR said:
Would it be similar to Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Surface Coating?
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Different chemical compositions. But both are coatings.

Perhaps someone can expand further.
 
Nice review and video Mike!

I'm curious what the time frame was between being applied to the roof, when you noted the streaking and when you got it out. Trying to gauge the cure/open time compared to some other options.

Did you use the same wedge applicator for the whole vehicle? If so, were you getting consistent results with it or did you have to adjust your application as the wedge got loaded up?
 
RPM_BR said:
Thanks, Mike. Your work, and the dedication you put to AGO, are impressive, as always. All the best!
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Thank you good sir.

I try to help out when and where I can. I truly enjoy doing this.

Audios S6 said:
Nice review and video Mike!
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Thank you!

I'm curious what the time frame was between being applied to the roof, when you noted the streaking and when you got it out. Trying to gauge the cure/open time compared to some other options.
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No more than 30 minutes. This Coating was very forgiving IME. I remember the days of applying OC2.0 and it was not as forgiving if that helps.

Did you use the same wedge applicator for the whole vehicle? If so, were you getting consistent results with it or did you have to adjust your application as the wedge got loaded up?
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I did use the one applicator for the entire vehicle. Being my first time with this particular product I wanted to lay down a small bead of product to prime the applicator and being working. Boy was that overkill and led to the heavy application on the roof.

When starting out 3 small drops on a fresh applicator is sufficient to get started with. After that a drop or two is all that is required to continue on.

One thing I want to try out is using a suede cloth over the LC wedge to reduce over loading the applicator. This should help in application. But on this review I wanted to document exactly how it would be performed as in a box stock process without modifying anything.
 
I finally had a chance to watch the video last night. It answered all the remaining questions I had on the application of this coating. Actually watching someone apply the product is extremely helpful.

Thanks!
 
Desertnate said:
I finally had a chance to watch the video last night. It answered all the remaining questions I had on the application of this coating. Actually watching someone apply the product is extremely helpful.

Thanks!
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I just watched it now and have to agree :iagree:

Thanks for putting the video together, as well as the write up - the time taken is appreciated Mike :dblthumb2:
 
Desertnate said:
I finally had a chance to watch the video last night. It answered all the remaining questions I had on the application of this coating. Actually watching someone apply the product is extremely helpful.

Thanks!
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Sounds good! Thanks for watching.

Glad I was able to provide that.

lawrenceSA said:
I just watched it now and have to agree :iagree:

Thanks for putting the video together, as well as the write up - the time taken is appreciated Mike :dblthumb2:
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Thanks Lawrence!

No problem. My pleasure.
 
Mike@DedicatedPerfection said:
With another new coating coming to market many people are excited to have another option to choose from. Having a coating added to the PBMG lineup makes it exciting as well in that it shows they are not resting in new product development to cater to ever expanding needs/wants from the consumer.

This new coating product from PBMG is what is expected from the BlackFire lineup. The break neck whiplash inducing shine we have come to expect from the product line. Hopefully the complimentary maintenance products will be added to maintain the BlackFire Coating such as a coating detailer and coating booster…
BLACKFIRE Crystal Coat Paint Coating Kit


BlackFire Coating Pros:
Lays out very nicely due to being so thin
A little goes a long way
Flashes nicely after being leveled with mf towel
Noticeably darkens surface

Cons: Very watery and easy to over apply if not careful

BlackFire Paint Prep Pros:
Smells like cologne making it enjoyable to work with during the paint prep process
Spreads easily and flashes within a workable time frame.
Leaves surface ready for Coating application

Cons: None that I can think of

This Focus ST was in decent condition being fairly new with roughly 2K miles on it. This Focus was the perfect test bed for this new coating review.

Wheels cleaned with Meguiar’s D143 Wheel & Tire Cleaner
Wheels deconned with CarPro Trix
Washed with Carpro Snow foam shampoo
Clayed with Meguiar’s Blue clay/D155 Last Touch

Paint polished with 3401, White Hybrid, BlackFire SRC Compound as a one step
Smaller areas hit with GG3, 3” Tangerine, BlackFire Compound

Paint wiped down twice with new BlackFire Crystal Coat Paint prep to ensure a clean surface prior to being coated with new BlackFire Crystal Coat Paint Coating


Wanted to show the application video first www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UXF7bD34Zs

Now I must say that this was my first go round with this product and really over applied the applicator when going over the roof when starting out. You will see the streaks on the roof as I didn't get them with the first swipe of the mf towel. After catching that the roof was wiped again to make sure no excess coating was left behind.


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Hope you all enjoyed.

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Great job along with your review and application!! Is that Bitburg in the background?
 
omg why would you quote the whole post, pics and all?

Im wondering how well the dirt washes off the coating.
 
Nice review. I have cquartz on mine right now. Mine was a test car so I have tons of high spots lol. I did another family members car and wiped off between 30seconds-1min, still high spots :(.

I think I'm going to give this one a try if it's more forgiving.
 
Mask said:
Another awesome review Mike ^^
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Thank you sir!

Pie said:
Nice review. I have cquartz on mine right now. Mine was a test car so I have tons of high spots lol. I did another family members car and wiped off between 30seconds-1min, still high spots :(.

I think I'm going to give this one a try if it's more forgiving.
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I have not used CQ so I can not comment.

I have however used OC2.0 and this product is much more user friendly and forgiving.
 
Mike,

I'm considering switching from sealants to coatings. That said, the number of coatings that have popped up in the last few years is amazing to me. And it's confusing...

There seems to be a heavy promotional push for Pinnacle Black Label - wet, slick, long lasting, easy to apply, etc. Disregarding any cost differences, how does PBL compare to BlackFire Crystal Coat?

Thanks,

Dan.
 
Mike@DedicatedPerfection said:
I have however used OC2.0 and this product is much more user friendly and forgiving.
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Mike, I think there may have been lesser smearing if the towel used would've been a more shorter nap (e.g. Gyeon baldwipe, or a Carpro large suede, MicrofiberMadness yellow fellow etc).. I haven't tried these but they are typically in use by some of the coating reviews I've seen and are designed for better removal..

Do you (or anyone else) know how soon should we be able to layer it (hopefully an hour or two)?

Please do make a quick video of the water behavior (bead and sheet mode) since we get to see that a lot with other coatings and would be great to see this in action.. I doubt anyone has yet posted a water behavior video for it.
 
BookemDano said:
Mike,

I'm considering switching from sealants to coatings. That said, the number of coatings that have popped up in the last few years is amazing to me. And it's confusing...

There seems to be a heavy promotional push for Pinnacle Black Label - wet, slick, long lasting, easy to apply, etc. Disregarding any cost differences, how does PBL compare to BlackFire Crystal Coat?

Thanks,

Dan.
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Dan,

With all the new coatings coming to market in rapid succession it can make your head spin. Doing research is key to finding what fits you. Ease of use will most likely be #1 priority.

Comparing the two products is almost an apples to oranges comparison. Sure they are both coatings but their chemical composition is a bit different. Honestly I don't know the intricate details on what separates the two of them. I'm sure there are a few members here that could explain the differences. Perhaps someone could provide some feedback.

However I feel that the two are on par with each other in terms of ease of use although they behave differently. For outright ease of use I would give the advantage to the PBL coating as it has a pump sprayer that atomizes the product on application making it very easy to spread. For looks, feel, durability, etc I would say the BlackFire product. I did notice that the BlackFire product darkened the surface and gave a glass like shine.

Mike

sealthedeal said:
Mike, I think there may have been lesser smearing if the towel used would've been a more shorter nap (e.g. Gyeon baldwipe, or a Carpro large suede, MicrofiberMadness yellow fellow etc).. I haven't tried these but they are typically in use by some of the coating reviews I've seen and are designed for better removal..

Do you (or anyone else) know how soon should we be able to layer it (hopefully an hour or two)?

Please do make a quick video of the water behavior (bead and sheet mode) since we get to see that a lot with other coatings and would be great to see this in action.. I doubt anyone has yet posted a water behavior video for it.
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That is a great point on minimizing the potential of smearing on removal. I will have to seek out some of these towels. Thank you.

I wanted to get a wash and beading video in last weekend but could not get to it. I will surely try to make that happen this weekend and report back.
 
Mike,

Thanks for the feedback. I just pulled the trigger on some PBL. We'll see how it works out.

Thanks,

Dan.
 
could the blackfire coating go over cquartz, or would the cquartz need to be polished off?
 
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