Products recommendations for black chevy silverado?

[luv a shine]

Gotcha. Just noticed the top line in your post above explaining this. :dblthumb2:

Can the CG polishes compete with Menzerna?

Yes , but CG made the v series line for everyone. A novice could mes up menz products ,it can get a bit number,lable busy.

You also have ask yourself how far am i going to take machine polishing.
Going pro = menz
Weekend = Cg v line
OPT hyper line sprays

I use one steps on my truck because i compounded last year and just use menz 4000 or menz 2500 for up keep.

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

Yes , but CG made the v series line for everyone. A novice could mes up menz products ,it can get a bit number,lable busy.

Outside of the possible label confusion, do you feel the Menz polishes take more technique or something?

 

[mpkav]

WOW!!!! Looks great!

 

[luv a shine]

Menz are the best polishes in the world. Theres no fillers glazes or any other stuff. I was just try to make you details simple

 

[RhetoricMixes]

Arent the V servies CG polishes DAT like Menzerna? I havent read otherwise but just wondering.

 

[Vegas Transplant]

To get back on topic though, would something like Optimum Hyper Compound with a LC HT tangerine finish out ok on hard black?

My experience with a hard black paint system/OHC : test spot determined rotary/foam pad for ultimate correction. I am not a fan of 8-10 hour compounding sessions...with a full detail awaiting.

I was searching Mike P.'s quote about OHC being almost dummy proof~but I could not find it.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/59415-optimum-hyper-compound-experience.html

In my limited experience, OHC finished like doo-doo.

YMMV.

We all know that you're an OPT hater, quite limited in both experience and ability with a rotary, but a penchant for using detailing terminology such as "finishing out". Compound is the workhorse in correction jobs. Oftentimes needing to be followed up by polishing.
OHC and many other like products, have the ability to finish out nicely...depending on the paint and the detailer. My two cents

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

My experience with a hard black paint system/OHC : test spot determined rotary/foam pad for ultimate correction. I am not a fan of 8-10 hour compounding sessions...with a full detail awaiting.

I was searching Mike P.'s quote about OHC being almost dummy proof~but I could not find it.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/59415-optimum-hyper-compound-experience.html

We all know that you're an OPT hater, quite limited in both experience and ability with a rotary, but a penchant for using detailing terminology such as "finishing out". Compound is the workhorse in correction jobs. Oftentimes needing to be followed up by polishing.
OHC and many other like products, have the ability to finish out nicely...depending on the paint and the detailer. My two cents

Sure buddy. :laughing:

I'm not an OPT hater. Search threads how I've PRAISED OPC.

You're right, I've never claimed to be an experienced rotary user. These polishes probably give much better results with a rotary. I'm offering my experience of using OHC with a DA. With a DA, it lacks the cut of M105 and does not finish as nicely. This is FACT.

What's wrong with the term "finishing"?

 

[Vegas Transplant]

Sure buddy. :laughing:

I'm not an OPT hater. Search threads how I've PRAISED OPC.

You're right, I've never claimed to be an experienced rotary user. These polishes probably give much better results with a rotary. I'm offering my experience of using OHC with a DA. With a DA, it lacks the cut of M105 and does not finish as nicely. This is FACT.

What's wrong with the term "finishing"?
Nothing. I use it all the time.

DUUHHHH...why would one compare OHC to 105 when it comes to cut~that's a given.
Dr G. made OCII also.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum.../19746-very-comprehensive-compound-chart.html

I have never witnessed the OHC micromarring, nor haze. Either DA or Rotary.
Be it a Toyota, Porsche, Infinity, MB...but I have read about it.
Now that I think about it, I did get less than perfect results using OHC/MF on a Sonata...I just chased it with GPS on foam(DA), then sealed/topped. I blame the MF.

 

[RhetoricMixes]

Looks like ill be getting some OHC and V32 to try out. Keep in mind this is going to be just a one step and not a full correction. Just wanted to throw that out there since everyone seems to be throwing compounds around.

 

[Evan.J]

Looks like ill be getting some OHC and V32 to try out. Keep in mind this is going to be just a one step and not a full correction. Just wanted to throw that out there since everyone seems to be throwing compounds around.

D151 has served me well on GM paints for a one step.

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

DUUHHHH...why would one compare OHC to 105 when it comes to cut~that's a given.

Not only did I mention cut, but FINISH, too. There's better options out there than OHC, but, if it works for you, great. I was just sharing my experience. Initially, I thought I may have to tweak my technique. I started reading that others were getting less than stellar results, so I figured my thoughts aren't inaccurate.

 

[Vegas Transplant]

Looks like ill be getting some OHC and V32 to try out. Keep in mind this is going to be just a one step and not a full correction. Just wanted to throw that out there since everyone seems to be throwing compounds around.

I have to admit that my first time OHC test spot- da/foam , full correction - had me scratching my head trying to dial it in. But for a one step, it exceeds in ability and gloss. :dblthumb2:

 

[Vegas Transplant]

Not only did I mention cut, but FINISH, too. There's better options out there than OHC, but, if it works for you, great. I was just sharing my experience. Initially, I thought I may have to tweak my technique. I started reading that others were getting less than stellar results, so I figured my thoughts aren't inaccurate.

Was this the dat/smat version that was previously offered, but since reformulated?

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

Was this the dat/smat version that was previously offered, but since reformulated?

No, the newest SMAT version. Anyhow, I don't want to turn this into a pissing match, I'm just not fond of OHC. On the other hand, OHP is great. I used it on my last detail.

 

[VroomVroom]

Just clarifying from way back on page 2.... I rarely use my rotary (Makita). The vast majority of my experience is with the trusty old PC 7424, and I often use 4" pads for moderate-to-heavy lifting. My experience on GM black was with PC + LC orange 4" + M105, and I was very pleased. This would've been fine for a one-step on a customer car, although I appreciate that it may not be the ideal choice for many folks. (But heck, sometimes you use what you've got, right....90% process, 10% product.)

Honestly, I've found the dusting issue with 105 to be minor - at least with respect to other products on the market. Does it happen? Sure. You adjust, just as with using any product. A little less than you think you need, perhaps a dot of 205 for your own little cocktail, measure your working time, etc... I never do a corrective detail without at a quick wash prior to LSP, so the dusting thing just really isn't an issue for me. (And, truth be told, I'd much rather deal with dusting than clumping, bad hazing, etc., that can really slow down a job.)

Anyway, good luck with everything. I hope the customer is happy, you find the right pad/product combo that works for you, and that you get some repeat business.

 

[RhetoricMixes]

Not to throw a kink in the process here but what about Menz SIP with a tangerine hydro? That cuts far better than my on hand OHP and i believe ive read some members use it as a one stepper on hard clears.