Professional detailers chime in! Paint correction time frame

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I have tried searching for past threads on this topic I have read a long time ago but cant find them! I would like to know how long it is taking professional detailers (or even those who detail for a hobby) to perform a proper quality paint correction. I have been detailing professionally for sometime now. A 2 stage correction (compounding & polishing + coating) is taking me anywhere from 10-16 + hrs depending on some variables. How big the vehicle is, different sizes of panels, condition & how much correction is needed, time decontaminating, etc..

I get quality results if given that time frame but apparently I take too long. I thought it was a reasonable time frame. Curious how long it takes others?

Thanks for the input Feed back please
 
8-14 hours accounting for car size and how bad the paint is. I used to be in the 10-16 range but the better I got with my products (polish and compounds). Add in other products like clay substitutes and IronX as well as other things to speed up the process and you can get it even lower.
 
It all depends on the % correction you are trying to achieve

Basic compounding and polishing COULD be accomplished in 5-6 hours, if the goal is 75-85% correction

RIDS slow me way down during the compounding stage, as I am always shooting for 95% correction

Allow at least an extra hour and a half for prep and application, if you are using a "coating"
 
I agree with conman. 8-14hrs depending on the condition and expectations.
 
It all depends on the % correction you are trying to achieve

Basic compounding and polishing COULD be accomplished in 5-6 hours, if the goal is 75-85% correction

RIDS slow me way down during the compounding stage, as I am always shooting for 95% correction

Allow at least an extra hour and a half for prep and application, if you are using a "coating"

The goal is close to 95%-100% correction as possible because we are coating.
 
On a standard sized car such as a 4 door Toyota Camry, my experience is about 6-8 hours for the correction (compounding) step alone. The correction (compounding) step normally takes the longest since your sections tend to be around 16" or 18" square and you use slow arm speed with an average of 6 passes per section...of course paint condition and hardness will determine number of passes, arm speed, etc, but this is generally speaking.

The polishing step will go a little faster since you maybe be able to do less passes, a larger area and faster arm speed.
 
Who is saying that you are taking too long? You might be on the long end of what is typical, but if you are using a DA for compounding and polishing and having to prep for a coating, then you aren't far off.

If you are using rotary and wool for your compounding step then, yes, you are moving way too slow elsewhere and should cut a few hours out. If someone is trying to compare you to a production detailer then they need an education. 95% correction is not drive-thru detailing; it's sitting down to a nice dinner knowing someone started prepping that morning or the night before.
 
I have been detailing professionally for sometime now.

A 2 stage correction (compounding & polishing + coating) is taking me anywhere from 10-16 + hrs depending on some variables.

I get quality results if given that time frame but apparently I take too long. I thought it was a reasonable time frame.
You state you are a professional detailer getting quality results within what you consider to be a reasonable time frame. I have no reason to believe otherwise.

And:
Unless it's your Customer(s) saying that you take too long; or that you feel that your profit margin is suffering from time-underestimations for too many job-quotes:
Is it really anyone else's personal business?


Reminds me of the times I've had to tell someone
that they had a nose that could open envelopes.


Bob
 
The goal is close to 95%-100% correction as possible because we are coating.
If the car is relatively new and in decent shape, 90% is being reasonable. However, on an older DD, 95-100% is not achievable, IMO.
 
The goal is close to 95%-100% correction as possible because we are coating.

IMO, on most cars...100% correction is not possible

Unless you are wet sanding some areas and doing touch-up paint....95% is the max

This may be what is slowing you down
 
Who is saying that you are taking too long? You might be on the long end of what is typical, but if you are using a DA for compounding and polishing and having to prep for a coating, then you aren't far off.

You state you are a professional detailer getting quality results within what you consider to be a reasonable time frame. I have no reason to believe otherwise.

And:
Unless it's your Customer(s) saying that you take too long; or that you feel that your profit margin is suffering from time-underestimations for too many job-quotes:
Is it really anyone else's personal business?

I work in a shop, im trying to cut down my time. Be efficient and get quality results
 
On my web page I list my 2-step correction package as such, "Service takes approximately 9-12 hours."

Those numbers are probably lower then the amount of time I typically spend.


Add a coating like CQF to that and it will go up by about 4hrs (with IR curing).
 
I just spent about 12 dedicated hours detailing a good friend of mine's car yesterday ... and I didn't even get to the polishing yet; saving that for another day. I woke up sore.

I'm seriously amazed at what you all do, the level of quality in these time frames.

Although my friend's car was much than I even imagined.
 
To do all that work from start to finish, i cant see anyone doing it in under
13 hours. Wash, clay, wheels, 2 step compound ipa wipe down and coating
 
To do all that work from start to finish, i cant see anyone doing it in under
13 hours. Wash, clay, wheels, 2 step compound ipa wipe down and coating

i have to agree, it usually takes me a day and a half to finish a car, so thats roughly 13-15 hours. it amazes at how some people finish a complete detail in or under 8hrs. wish i was that good.
 
Who is saying that you are taking too long? You might be on the long end of what is typical, but if you are using a DA for compounding and polishing and having to prep for a coating, then you aren't far off.

If you are using rotary and wool for your compounding step then, yes, you are moving way too slow elsewhere and should cut a few hours out. If someone is trying to compare you to a production detailer then they need an education. 95% correction is not drive-thru detailing; it's sitting down to a nice dinner knowing someone started prepping that morning or the night before.
:iagree: WHO is saying it takes too long? :dunno:

Are you saying from the time you start washing till the time you do your last wipe of coating? Are you talking about doing all the rubber, vinyl, trim, applying exterior trim sealant, applying rubber and vinyl protectant to every square inch of rubber, doing anything to the interior, treating leather, interior vinyl and plastic, coating/sealant on door jambs, (buffing/polishing jambs) wheels, tires, (removing wheels and tires), coating wheels, coating calipers, polishing exhaust tips, coating glass? Heck, just decontaminating the wheels, washing, IRON-X, thoroughly doing the door jambs, hood and trunk jambs, drying it all then TAPING all the trim and plastic, headlights, etc. can take 4~6 hours (if not all day). Some may not tape, but on most vehicles (at least the ones I do) I'll tape.... some more intensive than others.

For a coating, on a new vehicle, I'm shooting for 99% correction. On an older one, not so much.... but I'll still attack it based on which package the owner chooses. Problem is, (as you likely know) coatings don't hide ANYTHING, so IMHO 75%, 80%, even 85% isn't good enough for a coating. (That's where sealants come into play.) ;) Yet when it comes to my top end package, I'll do what it takes. (That is a time unlimited package btw.)

To quote some I know: "It takes as long as it takes." I just finished a 2015 C7 this weekend that took all week! It had it's share of problems, some not so small even though it only has 751 miles on it. Took better than 35 hours. :) (And it's not leaving here till there is no chance of rain, moisture, hail, snow, dust storms, or trolls hiding under a bridge in route back to the owners home some 57 miles away.) :laughing:

(Given I'll move a bit slower with my back than a young gun, but I can assure you nobody will attack anything more thoroughly and completely than I will. This vehicle was touched, rubbed, finessed, and massaged from end to end, top to bottom, inside and out.... each and every square inch half a dozen times. With that in mind, where a younger man would spend 7 hours I might spend 10, and I'm fine with that.:xyxthumbs:
But I doubt anyone would have done this vehicle in under 25+ hours.):buffing:
 
i have to agree, it usually takes me a day and a half to finish a car, so thats roughly 13-15 hours. it amazes at how some people finish a complete detail in or under 8hrs. wish i was that good.
If i remember correctly, when i did my lexus is250 with just 1 step fg400 and coating it took me about 15 hours and i dont feel like i work slow. I think i move at a decent speed.
No way can 1 person do it in 8 hours.
 
I disagree with you Tony on 80% correction being good enough for coating, but thats another thread. Obviously, that isn`t good enough for Finest, Ceramic Pro, or Opti Coat Pro.
 
OP, I reckon the time you are taking for a 2 step plus coating is about right. It takes me about the same :)
 
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