Question regarding Collinte 915 durability

definitely something odd going on there, perhaps it has something to do with the BF but I don't know.

I've used 476 and 845 over DG products and never seen the Collinite products fade away so quickly. currently using 915 over DG 105 / 111 and it's still beading strong after 3 months.

IMHO, Collinite = the standard for long term protection.
 
OK, I actually got some time this weekend to redo the wax. Washed it up good with Gold Class Car Wash, wiped it down with an IPA/Water mix according to these instructions:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...ow-mix-ipa-inspecting-correction-results.html

, and then put two coats of 915 on. As you can see from the photos, the beading already looks 100% better than before, so let's see how long it lasts.

I'm wondering if part of my problem last time was that I may have taken the phrase "apply THIN" a little too much in fear of having a difficult time buffing it off. This time, I put a little bit more on the pad than I normally would, and wouldn't ya know, I didn't have one issue with removal, even after letting it sit for 15 minutes!
 
99ParkAve said:
OK, I actually got some time this weekend to redo the wax. Washed it up good with Gold Class Car Wash, wiped it down with an IPA/Water mix according to these instructions:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...ow-mix-ipa-inspecting-correction-results.html

, and then put two coats of 915 on. As you can see from the photos, the beading already looks 100% better than before, so let's see how long it lasts.

I'm wondering if part of my problem last time was that I may have taken the phrase "apply THIN" a little too much in fear of having a difficult time buffing it off. This time, I put a little bit more on the pad than I normally would, and wouldn't ya know, I didn't have one issue with removal, even after letting it sit for 15 minutes!
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A lot better. Took some pictures the other day of the beads I got from Vanilla Ice. The 915 beads a lot tighter from what I've seen.
 
99ParkAve said:
OK, I actually got some time this weekend to redo the wax. Washed it up good with Gold Class Car Wash, wiped it down with an IPA/Water mix according to these instructions:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...ow-mix-ipa-inspecting-correction-results.html

, and then put two coats of 915 on. As you can see from the photos, the beading already looks 100% better than before, so let's see how long it lasts.

I'm wondering if part of my problem last time was that I may have taken the phrase "apply THIN" a little too much in fear of having a difficult time buffing it off. This time, I put a little bit more on the pad than I normally would, and wouldn't ya know, I didn't have one issue with removal, even after letting it sit for 15 minutes!
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Those are 915 beads!
I think your problem was, and I had the same problem, is that your paint is white. You can see if you're applying it thick or thin because its almost transparent when you put it on white paint. Black cars are so much easier to apply it.
 
I can't quite comment on the durability as I just got the #915 last week but since then I've applied 3 coats of it. I let it cure for atleast 1 day inbetween coats too. Before I got the #915 I laid down a coat of BFCS to give it a good base to stick to. The 1st coat went down easy and I did a panel and half and then removed, came off w/o a problem and I applied it by hand as well. The 2nd coat had me applying the #915 by hand once again but this time I applied it to the entire car and then removed, once again, no problem removing. The 1st 2 coats were done inside the underground parking garage, yesterday I had some time to kill and applied the #915 outside under a shade tree in the late morning. I again applied it to the entire car ad then removed and guess what, no issue w/ removal once again. I always make sure the applicator is damp and I put on thin enough to see, barely and I think that's the trick here, as others have and will tell you.

Back to durability, I know the #915 is above #845 and almost on par w/ #476 and I'm really going to try and see how it lasts....I did say "try" but I thought the #915 was all about shine and #476 was for durability pretty much? I mean if #915 lasts a long time great, but I was more interested in the reviews about how damn good it was supposed to look and as far as that goes, I'm ABSOLUTELY BLOWN AWAY!

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Why so many coats? Are you worried about missing a spot? (curious)
I always just do one coat and get 6+ months.
 
BuckeyeR/T said:
Why so many coats? Are you worried about missing a spot? (curious)
I always just do one coat and get 6+ months.
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Well its not because I rush things and worry about missing something, rather it seems a lot of people do this to ensure complete coverage, the 3rd coat was done yesterday because I was boredn my fiance was getting her hair done at her parents house, so I moved the car under the shade tree and applied a 3rd coat, that's all.

Why does #915 get the rep of being all about shine when it seems its got longevity too? You see I bought the #476 to apply before winter and I guess I will but it seems #915 is right there with it, am I reading things wrong here or what, input please guys, thanks.

I can't say this enough though, after the 2nd coat the paint on my CRZ looks faux but in a good way, absolutely stunning effect on the paint!!!

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Klasse Act said:
Well its not because I rush things and worry about missing something, rather it seems a lot of people do this to ensure complete coverage, the 3rd coat was done yesterday because I was boredn my fiance was getting her hair done at her parents house, so I moved the car under the shade tree and applied a 3rd coat, that's all.

Why does #915 get the rep of being all about shine when it seems its got longevity too? You see I bought the #476 to apply before winter and I guess I will but it seems #915 is right there with it, am I reading things wrong here or what, input please guys, thanks.

I can't say this enough though, after the 2nd coat the paint on my CRZ looks faux but in a good way, absolutely stunning effect on the paint!!!

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That's because it has the highest carnauba content of the big 3 collinite waxes and the most shine. All 3 are very, very durable. But 915 was designed to be the best looking, while also being super durable.
 
KillaCam said:
That's because it has the highest carnauba content of the big 3 collinite waxes and the most shine. All 3 are very, very durable. But 915 was designed to be the best looking, while also being super durable.
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Ok I can buy that for sure but why would they need #476 then if #915 has the most caranuba content? In theory #915 should outlast #476 then but many people reach for #476 before winter. Not doubtking your statement but rather trying to learn more and hopefully others benefit too.

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Why would you think 915 would outlast 476? Just because there's more carnauba doesn't necessarily mean it will last longer.
I look at 476 as a very durable sealant, as whereas 915 would be mainly a high concentration of carnauba wax with some synthetic polymers in it also.
But I've never tried 476 so I can't compare.
 
KillaCam said:
Why would you think 915 would outlast 476? Just because there's more carnauba doesn't necessarily mean it will last longer.
I look at 476 as a very durable sealant, as whereas 915 would be mainly a high concentration of carnauba wax with some synthetic polymers in it also.
But I've never tried 476 so I can't compare.
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I just figured a higher nuba content would mean it would be more durable, that's all. I'm going to wait till some time in November to apply 2x's #476 to the car and then we'll see how it goes, an actual true test for durability. Even though I've got an underground parking spot at our apartment, I'm not sure how warm it will actually be down there in the winter, so waxing may be out of the question but rinseless washes should be doable, making maintence a lot easier.

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"Pre-wax cleaners" do more harm than good as far as LSP bonding, IMO. Most of them.
 
I take any durability claims in waxes/sealants/coatings with a grain of salt.

I've never had a Collinite (I have used regularly three of them) wax or any other wax last nearly as long as they claim. I'll just leave it at that.
 
FivePoint.0 said:
"Pre-wax cleaners" do more harm than good as far as LSP bonding, IMO. Most of them.
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I can't say that even use a pre-wax cleaner honestly. I keep my car clean using rinseless washes, quick detailers on a regular basis and when I feel grit, I clay and use DG #501/601 to clean things up further below and go from there. To get help with additional bonding I like to use BFCS because it does allow you to top it with anything and with doing this I've never had an issue with any product sticking to it.

As far as Collinite and its durability goes, well from my reading here anyways, its overwhelmingly positive for all of the Collinite products, #476 and #915 inparticular, so I ran with it and bought all 3 of them and have been very happy with their performance so far, sans the #476 as I'm saving it for winter duty.
 
***UPDATE***

So today I did an ONR rinseless wash to the car, first wash since applying the 3x's #915, so its had plenty of time to properly cure and I would like to report this to the group. When normally doing a RW the water always just "sheets" across the panel but this time it actually beaded up, a first for me! Based on this I have I high expecations for Collinite!

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What's really amazing to me is how #915 makes the paint on my car "pop" like a sealant, unbelievable!

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It's Still Beading!

I know digging up old threads in not looked upon with favor, but I figured I should close this thread out as "Solved"! My original post questioned my method of applying Collinite properly to achieve a good coating for looks and durability, and I last posted showing a good bead on the car but wasn't sure if I had enough for durability...

Today was the first day since October 2013 that it has been warmer than 60 F out, so I decided to wash my car to get the last four months of salf and grime off the paint. I have not washed it since October, let alone wax it or touch up due to the inclement weather.

And holy peat, the Collinite was still beading!!! Albeit, it is certainly weaker now than when I last posted, but in the posted pics you can still see rather decent beads! And after all of that snow and salt too!

Thanks everyone for you suggestions on how to improve my Collinite application techniques; they have paid off and there is now another life-long Collinite fan in the house!

Administrator(s), can you please add [SOLVED] to the Title of this thread?
 
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