Review: BLACKFIRE One-Step Cleaner/Wax by Mike Phillips

  • Thread starter Thread starter Mike Phillips
  • Start date Start date
Mike - next time when you do a job like this can you record the process and put the video online? No commentary needed throughout, just let the camera record you working. It would be nice to see how you work the product and tools to achieve such great results in a short amount of time.


Sent from my iPhone using AGOnline
 
fightnews said:
Looks good do you typically do 8 section passes?
Click to expand...


Of course. I'm using a one-step cleaner/wax to do CORRECTION WORK.

When using a one-step cleaner/wax you treat it like a compound.


I know some people are confused and don't know the difference between a cleaner/wax or a finishing wax so just to set the record straight,

Finishing Wax = Apply a thin coat

Cleaner/Wax = Work like a compound​


Make sense?


:)
 
DBAILEY said:
We seem to have a AIO war brewing amongst all the manufacturers. I would like to know about the protection also. Is it wax based protection or is it all polymer (it is polycharged like BFWD). I am assuming that BFMS wax will sit fine on top but ss BFWD compatible on top?
Click to expand...

Wax based protection and yes you can put Carnauba on top of it.
 
lane5515 said:
Mike - next time when you do a job like this can you record the process and put the video online?

No commentary needed throughout, just let the camera record you working.

It would be nice to see how you work the product and tools to achieve such great results in a short amount of time.
Click to expand...


I can ask the powers-that-be... :)


How about a time-lapse video?

Would that work?


:)
 
Thanks for the review, Mike. Out of curiosity, what is the difference between this and Blackfire Total Polish & Seal? Is it the polymer seal vs. wax?

Thanks!
 
Thanks for the pictures . The paint looks like you could dip your hand in it and get wet !
How well do you think it would be to use this by hand ? Easy on n off ? Don't have a polisher..... yet !
 
Android said:
Thanks for the pictures . The paint looks like you could dip your hand in it and get wet !


How well do you think it would be to use this by hand ? Easy on n off ? Don't have a polisher..... yet !
Click to expand...


It will work great by hand. Use a clean microfiber applicator pad for cars in bad or neglected condition and work small sections at a time.


And real important --> when you start a new section be sure to overlap into the previous section for uniform cleaning and thus uniform appearance.



:)
 
Mike, are those GG BOSS orange pads or something else? Dont look like thinpros to me.
 
So for all "one-step" products, not just Blackfire, a coating would not be a good idea after the vehicle is done?
 
theblob640 said:
So for all "one-step" products, not just Blackfire, a coating would not be a good idea after the vehicle is done?
Click to expand...

Absolutely not. The surface needs to be surgically clean before a coating. These products leave behind waxes or sealants that would prevent the coating from being able to bond to the paint properly.


Sent from my iPhone using Autogeekonline mobile app
 
JCDetails said:
Absolutely not. The surface needs to be surgically clean before a coating. These products leave behind waxes or sealants that would prevent the coating from being able to bond to the paint properly.


Sent from my iPhone using Autogeekonline mobile app
Click to expand...

Great! Just what I was looking for, thanks.

I knew coatings needed to be on a surgically clean surface for it to bond but I just wanted to clarify on the definition of a "one-step", wasn't sure if ALL one-step leaves protection behind.
 
Cleaner Wax/All-In-One/AIO = Products that most detailers and forum members think of when referring to a product that "Cleans, Polishes, Protects"
Examples: HD Speed, Griot's Finishing Sealant, D166 Ultra Polishing Wax

One Step = Products designed to fill the gap between a heavy correction compound and a fine finishing polish. They generally will not cut as much as a heavy correction compound nor will they finish to the level of an extremely fine finishing polish. The benefit of a 1-step compound/polish is being able to have ONE product that's cutting/finishing capabilities can be tailored depending on the goal of the 1-step. If finish is more important, use a foam polishing pad. Or if you're looking for more cut, you can pair it with microfiber or foam heavy cutting pads. They are generally body shop safe and don't contain and waxes, silicones, or fillers.
Examples: Boss Correcting Cream, HD Adapt, Scholl Concepts S20 Black, Sonax Cut & Finish.
 
mwoywod said:
Cleaner Wax/All-In-One/AIO = Products that most detailers and forum members think of when referring to a product that "Cleans, Polishes, Protects"
Examples: HD Speed, Griot's Finishing Sealant, D166 Ultra Polishing Wax

One Step = Products designed to fill the gap between a heavy correction compound and a fine finishing polish. They generally will not cut as much as a heavy correction compound nor will they finish to the level of an extremely fine finishing polish. The benefit of a 1-step compound/polish is being able to have ONE product that's cutting/finishing capabilities can be tailored depending on the goal of the 1-step. If finish is more important, use a foam polishing pad. Or if you're looking for more cut, you can pair it with microfiber or foam heavy cutting pads. They are generally body shop safe and don't contain and waxes, silicones, or fillers.
Examples: Boss Correcting Cream, HD Adapt, Scholl Concepts S20 Black, Sonax Cut & Finish.
Click to expand...

I understand what you're saying, but I don't think of it quite the same way. For me, "1 step" always has and will continue to be another term for an AIO aka cleaner wax.

The terms 1 step/AIO/cleaner wax have been engraved in my head as meaning the same thing.

Going back over 10yrs ago, Meguiars used a very similar term on their label of D151 PRC, which of course is a cleaner wax or AIO or in this case a "One Liquid Solution"

4699c95d9faa6f01edc2e9c5f9967476.jpg


And their latest version of AIO/cleaner wax D166 takes it even closer on its label calling it "One Step Solution"

27b1c6918422e1d1295189030d99e276.jpg


IMO 1 Step means 1 Step. Not this 1 step, but then I have to lay down my "Last Step Protection"... No no, that totally contradicts the whole "1 step" that you were just talking about. Might as well be 5 more steps since the title doesn't actually matter.

@Mwoywod. I'm not directing that last part towards you, I'm just sort of thinking out loud from an outsiders perspective if for example a detailer had just showed me that kind of "1 step"
I'd advise him to rethink what he calls it.
 
Super nice review Mike, thank you. :props:

Sweet ride too to be honest. Mike, you mention it has a nice long working time, tell me - did you notice much of a difference in results the longer you worked it or does it have an optimum time frame?

As a "Pro" detailing shop, I am always looking for that perfect AIO. This one from Blackfire is very appealing to me.

Aaryn NZ. :dblthumb2:
 
I got me some...!!!

Bought:

Blackfire AIO
Blackfire polish
Blackfire sealant

Will share info when I get a chance to use these...

Thinking of doing 2 hellcats with these. Hope these will bring out the best! Not sure which direction I will go yet. Owner may opt for a coating. And this will change things...

Later,
Tom
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top