Review: CarPro Reload
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richy
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No, but, it sure did make the surface slick. I don't recall how long it lasted. If you love a slick surface, it is a great answer for OC/OG/CQ.
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VEHICLE B
Well, I haven’t gotten back to you guys with further durability testing since my initial testing was compromised in a couple ways. It was mostly my fault as I didn’t have time to wash the personal vehicles for about a month.
Anyway last week blue got washed (hood clayed and polished) and had a few nano spray coatings applied to different sections of the hood including our featured product in this review (CarPro Reload).
This is how it went:
Here is our first of many controlled durability updates on CarPro Reload.
This was the story for the first week:
A couple days after application and the car sitting stationary (outside 24/7) you can see the dust and dirt that lands on it has merged with the condensation each morning to cause these spots. (Hint: Don’t worry)
After a couple days of looking at them and wondering how they would come out in the weekend wash we got a couple good rains today. This was what the paint looked like as I left for work this morning.
And after I parked the car at work (Don’t worry I parked down the street from the construction) it looked great. The paint had been cleansed of the spots as best I could tell. The car was also dry in most places even though it was only the last 5 miles that it wasn’t raining. Unfortunately before I could grab the camera it started sprinkling again.
Later in the afternoon I took this shot a little while after another rain passed through. Note the C2 side has beads still on it while the Reload and Permanon do not. Some other factor could have been involved but I can’t think what it could be other than the Reload and Platinum released the water easier. (That’s a good thing) Faster water release means less chance for water spots.
Also of note was that when this vehicle went on a 150-180 mile drive along the border of the Ocala National Forest (Wednesday) it had a run in with a few bugs. It was getting dark by the time I got to her car with the Ultima waterless wash but when I did they came off so easily the fact that I didn’t have much light wasn’t a problem and the bugs were easily removed. (Note: only certain areas had to have the UWWP applied. The bugs did not cover the whole panel and in fact in most of the upper hood only had a couple so the UWWP was ok to use and has not compromised our durability tests in any way.
Note: When I say compromised what I mean is any possibility of the waterless wash changing any of the properties of dust retention, beading, etc.
The next Vehicle B update will be a short one that shows water sheeting after I wash it.
Well, I haven’t gotten back to you guys with further durability testing since my initial testing was compromised in a couple ways. It was mostly my fault as I didn’t have time to wash the personal vehicles for about a month.
Anyway last week blue got washed (hood clayed and polished) and had a few nano spray coatings applied to different sections of the hood including our featured product in this review (CarPro Reload).
This is how it went:
Here is our first of many controlled durability updates on CarPro Reload.
This was the story for the first week:
A couple days after application and the car sitting stationary (outside 24/7) you can see the dust and dirt that lands on it has merged with the condensation each morning to cause these spots. (Hint: Don’t worry)
After a couple days of looking at them and wondering how they would come out in the weekend wash we got a couple good rains today. This was what the paint looked like as I left for work this morning.
And after I parked the car at work (Don’t worry I parked down the street from the construction) it looked great. The paint had been cleansed of the spots as best I could tell. The car was also dry in most places even though it was only the last 5 miles that it wasn’t raining. Unfortunately before I could grab the camera it started sprinkling again.
Later in the afternoon I took this shot a little while after another rain passed through. Note the C2 side has beads still on it while the Reload and Permanon do not. Some other factor could have been involved but I can’t think what it could be other than the Reload and Platinum released the water easier. (That’s a good thing) Faster water release means less chance for water spots.
Also of note was that when this vehicle went on a 150-180 mile drive along the border of the Ocala National Forest (Wednesday) it had a run in with a few bugs. It was getting dark by the time I got to her car with the Ultima waterless wash but when I did they came off so easily the fact that I didn’t have much light wasn’t a problem and the bugs were easily removed. (Note: only certain areas had to have the UWWP applied. The bugs did not cover the whole panel and in fact in most of the upper hood only had a couple so the UWWP was ok to use and has not compromised our durability tests in any way.
Note: When I say compromised what I mean is any possibility of the waterless wash changing any of the properties of dust retention, beading, etc.
The next Vehicle B update will be a short one that shows water sheeting after I wash it.
CEE DOG
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VEHICLE B:
In my testing of Reload and other nano coat sprays as stand-alone products I’m finding excellent dust and dirt release properties but I have noticed the sheeting is falling off quicker than expected. It still beads fairly well but sheeting not as much as I had hoped.
Video: Timeline
I was out of eraser when I prepped the vehicles and I think I used IPA so maybe using Eraser before applying these inorganic spray sealants will help. I'm trying that now.
Pictures Car B: (A week after application)
After a late night rain (Early Morning)
Later the same day after the water evaporated.
Pictures Car G: (A few days after application)
This is what my green SL looked like a couple days after re-application of Reload. This time I applied the product more liberally since it’s being used as a standalone product.
(A few days after application about 100 miles driven)
7 days after application: Driven 40 miles per day (200 miles total)
Stay tuned for an upcoming “Reload over CQuartz” update
One of the vehicles (on which I applied Reload over Cquartz) is in next weekend for a scheduled maintenance wash. I’ll take some pictures and video.
In my testing of Reload and other nano coat sprays as stand-alone products I’m finding excellent dust and dirt release properties but I have noticed the sheeting is falling off quicker than expected. It still beads fairly well but sheeting not as much as I had hoped.
Video: Timeline
I was out of eraser when I prepped the vehicles and I think I used IPA so maybe using Eraser before applying these inorganic spray sealants will help. I'm trying that now.
Pictures Car B: (A week after application)
After a late night rain (Early Morning)
Later the same day after the water evaporated.
Pictures Car G: (A few days after application)
This is what my green SL looked like a couple days after re-application of Reload. This time I applied the product more liberally since it’s being used as a standalone product.
(A few days after application about 100 miles driven)
7 days after application: Driven 40 miles per day (200 miles total)
Stay tuned for an upcoming “Reload over CQuartz” update
One of the vehicles (on which I applied Reload over Cquartz) is in next weekend for a scheduled maintenance wash. I’ll take some pictures and video.
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VEHICLE G
I’ve been working on a full scale Reload vs. Permanon Platinum side by side time lapse comparison on Green for the past month. The importance of comparing these two products (rather than comparing Reload to a spray wax or spray sealant) is that these are an entirely different type of product. They don’t hold dust or dirt much and when you spray them off during the rinse you occasionally wonder if you should even put a wash mitt and soap to them or just blow the car dry. Having said that, this is not bug season. Bugs will bake onto these coatings just like any other lsp and I haven’t been driving in mud so can’t speak to those that drive down dirt roads every day but I can say it would clean easier than a wax or sealant.
On the hood I applied Reload to the drivers side and Permanon Platinum to the passenger side.
I made a video after week 1, 3, and 4. Tonight I spliced them together. I planned to post after the second week but I had lost track of which product I had applied to which side of the vehicle. Therefore I had to duplicate the test again on the Blue Saturn to make sure of which product was the one that was failing in sheeting properties quicker.
For both of these tests the vehicles were washed and dry and then cleaned well with Eraser to ensure no oils were left.
Drum roll please….
Video: 1 Month Time Lapse
[video=youtube_share;-WSTrQDl8po"]Reload vs Permanon time lapse.wmv - YouTube[/video]
What I have reinforced in my mind from this test vs. the ones I did before it is that Reload needs to be applied on an oil free surface for best durability.
The sheeting has taken a definitive hit from day one to day 30+ but the difference between this and a spray wax is the inorganic properties and its ability to keep the surface much cleaner than a spray wax or sealant. It acts more like a coating but without the durability and with simpler application. Having said all that I’m a bit disappointed in the slowed sheeting affect of all of the nano sprays I have used. Of them Reload seems to be the most hydrophobic by far and has great “stay clean” ability for a month or more in my experience.
After Note: After these tests were started we had a member mention that Permanon should be washed with only water the first couple times after application. I’m not big on jumping through that hoop to make a product of Permanon’s price point work correctly but I thought it important to note that my washing method may not reap the full benefits of Permanon according to this new information which was never mentioned in our Permanon Q&A and was not provided anywhere in the supplied instructions that came with the product.
Here is the video I used to verify which product was falling off in sheeting faster.
Video 2:
[video=youtube_share;oGlbJ311DLc"]Reload Test 4 - YouTube[/video]
Some people were curious if Permanon or Reload would make the mf towels absorb towels less. These two pictures were after I left these 3 towels in the water (no soap) for a few days. You can see there was a couple pockets where they didn’t absorb. Having said all that after washing them in the machine I haven’t noticed any ill effects yet.
Here is a few more pictures I thought were fun. I was snapping some shots in the early morning and some moisture got into the camera from the quick change in environment from inside to outside of the house. It caused these cool images.
I’ve been working on a full scale Reload vs. Permanon Platinum side by side time lapse comparison on Green for the past month. The importance of comparing these two products (rather than comparing Reload to a spray wax or spray sealant) is that these are an entirely different type of product. They don’t hold dust or dirt much and when you spray them off during the rinse you occasionally wonder if you should even put a wash mitt and soap to them or just blow the car dry. Having said that, this is not bug season. Bugs will bake onto these coatings just like any other lsp and I haven’t been driving in mud so can’t speak to those that drive down dirt roads every day but I can say it would clean easier than a wax or sealant.
On the hood I applied Reload to the drivers side and Permanon Platinum to the passenger side.
I made a video after week 1, 3, and 4. Tonight I spliced them together. I planned to post after the second week but I had lost track of which product I had applied to which side of the vehicle. Therefore I had to duplicate the test again on the Blue Saturn to make sure of which product was the one that was failing in sheeting properties quicker.
For both of these tests the vehicles were washed and dry and then cleaned well with Eraser to ensure no oils were left.
Drum roll please….
Video: 1 Month Time Lapse
[video=youtube_share;-WSTrQDl8po"]Reload vs Permanon time lapse.wmv - YouTube[/video]
What I have reinforced in my mind from this test vs. the ones I did before it is that Reload needs to be applied on an oil free surface for best durability.
The sheeting has taken a definitive hit from day one to day 30+ but the difference between this and a spray wax is the inorganic properties and its ability to keep the surface much cleaner than a spray wax or sealant. It acts more like a coating but without the durability and with simpler application. Having said all that I’m a bit disappointed in the slowed sheeting affect of all of the nano sprays I have used. Of them Reload seems to be the most hydrophobic by far and has great “stay clean” ability for a month or more in my experience.
After Note: After these tests were started we had a member mention that Permanon should be washed with only water the first couple times after application. I’m not big on jumping through that hoop to make a product of Permanon’s price point work correctly but I thought it important to note that my washing method may not reap the full benefits of Permanon according to this new information which was never mentioned in our Permanon Q&A and was not provided anywhere in the supplied instructions that came with the product.
Here is the video I used to verify which product was falling off in sheeting faster.
Video 2:
[video=youtube_share;oGlbJ311DLc"]Reload Test 4 - YouTube[/video]
Some people were curious if Permanon or Reload would make the mf towels absorb towels less. These two pictures were after I left these 3 towels in the water (no soap) for a few days. You can see there was a couple pockets where they didn’t absorb. Having said all that after washing them in the machine I haven’t noticed any ill effects yet.
Here is a few more pictures I thought were fun. I was snapping some shots in the early morning and some moisture got into the camera from the quick change in environment from inside to outside of the house. It caused these cool images.
Dr Oldz
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Very interesting. Thanks Corey. To add, these are getting confusing, certain shampoos, wash with water only, wait this long for.....this that and the other thing. Optimum car wax offers better protection than what I have seen here (altho I have not tested side by side) for a fraction of the price and with much user friendly method IMO!
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Thanks for bringing that up Jim!
To be clear the difficulties and jumping through hoops Jim mentioned doesnt apply to Reload. As long as it's applied to an oil free surface it has lasted over a month so far for me.
What Jim is referring to is the permanon platinum product. A bunch of us got in on that product with huge expectations and after a bunch of us started reporting the lackluster sheeting effects you saw in that video we heard from one of our members that we should use only water at least the first time and various other strange things we hadnt been told in the printed instructions etc. I want to get the most from that investment as well so I'll keep playing with it but it is so extremely expensive I agree with Jim permanon has been very irritating so far. I do love it's application method for wheels though.
OCW does have great protection at a great price and is an old favorite for me when reaching for a spray wax that offers excellent protection. I love it as well Jim.
However the thing that Reload offers that OCW doesn't is that "stay clean effect" similar to what we all love about CQuartz and OC. I'll do a side by side of the two pretty soon so I can visually show you what I mean by how you don't get build up on Reload. I think I've shown pretty well in the past posts how clean the surface has stayed but nothing does the job to show people like a 50/50. Is Reload right for everybody? It's a bit on the pricey side but after using permanon the Reload feels like a steal. LOl
Out of the products in the inorganic spray sealants category it is the best one at the best price I've used.
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Thanks for the updated info Corey.... I really like ReLoad and this makes me consider trading my PP for Reload and not looking back. I will continue to test my PP wash different wash solution to find out my own durability.
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You have a PM.
No, it works just fine. Reload is my favourite topper on glasscoats. But I must say that I prefere the older version; less tendency to streak.
richy
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Detailingdoc
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Can reload be effectively used as a topper say on top of Fuzion or Souveran or may the BL and V7 combo?