Rinseless wash sponges

[noorth]

Dana i actually first saw these on youtube tonight! eddie colon's channel. One funny dude lol

 

[DanaDetailingPros]

WELL? Are you going to make me go and find it and sit through the whole video? Or can you just tell me if he thinks there worth a dam?

 

[noorth]

WELL? Are you going to make me go and find it and sit through the whole video? Or can you just tell me if he thinks there worth a dam?

haha its what he uses. Very funny guy.

 

[Klasse Act]

I'm too lazy to go back, who are the "detailers" people don't like here

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[dgage]

Back when I used Wolfgang Uber for rinseless, my BRS would also get dirty/stained. After switching to N-914 it cleaned the BRS and it looks brand new again. I had purchased another BRS expecting to replace it but that one is still in the package due to how N-914 keeps mine looking great.

That is what I noticed as well. Using Uber Rinseless would leave the BRS dark/black in spots. With N-914, the BRS gets clean after a single rinse in the bucket, even doing a rocker panel that turned it almost black. So N-914 is my go-to rinseless with the BRS though I haven’t tried some of the more recent strong rinseless washes such as Feynlab.

 

[Eldorado2k]

I watch a lot of detailing content, I have learnt so much from watching other people, I'm a visual learner. However, I tend to know who is the real deal and who are just making videos to gain fame and fortune.

I watched this one the other day, from very early on I was perplexed at his techniques and product choices.

Check out his very strange and time-wasting wash and decontamination process. Not to mention using Turtle Wax soap, only because it was cheap. His polishing technique looks super random and sloppy, calling the polisher he was using as a Maxshine when the footage clearly shows a ShineMate. I also think he was far too generous with the CanCoat on his application towel, including his haphazard in spraying the product close to the vehicle.

I feel if you are going to make an instructional video, you really have to be accurate in what you do and say.

That ones interesting… I’m halfways willing to give him a pass on his wash technique simply because he was prepping the car, however in this case he actually didn’t use a polish with any abrasives, so any swirls he could’ve inflicted during that improper wash would’ve made it onto the final result.

And then there’s the whole “but the paint is white” thing, not to mention the car didn’t even look dirty to begin with… But at the end of the day I have to agree, that wash technique was brutal.lol. And ya gotta dock him points for having what looked like his son help with the wash process because that’s just another person touching a customers vehicle improperly.

Huge mishmash of products even though I know he’s got so many products and probably feels like he needs to use them up somehow, but maybe it wasn’t the best look for this type of video. And the choice to iron decon after the wash only to wash again afterwards was redundant.

I watch his vids sometimes mostly for info on new products. He provides a down to earth prospective and strikes me as a guy who loves to try everything new that comes out. And we all have a little bit of that in us, so for that I tend to like his content.

 

[Klasse Act]

...the flip flops though and spraying technique by the younger guy, like he's never used a spray bottle before

...the way they dried the car, like they just learned how to wash a car

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[DFB]

Well, I ended up ordering an Ultra Black Sponge...................like I needed it but you know how it is! :laughing:

 

[Texchappy]

Well, I ended up ordering an Ultra Black Sponge...................like I needed it but you know how it is! :laughing:

I know exactly how it is… my arrived yesterday

 

[Eldorado2k]

Wash bucket:

Rinse bucket:

Rinse bucket removed DirtLock

1 last thing I wanted to add for comparison sake with the OP. This is in reference to the rinseless wash I did in post #49^

I already showed these next 2 pics in my previous post. Btw I have to say that especially considering how much dirt was in the rinse bucket, the wash bucket was remarkably clean after the rinseless.

Look at how much dirt was underneath the Grit Guard in the rinse bucket.

And like I said, it actually felt safe, or at least safe enough considering the vehicle and it’s paint color, etc. but seeing how clean the wash bucket stayed throughout the process and seeing all that dirt at the bottom of the rinse bucket is pretty satisfying.

I must say, I’m impressed by the McKee’s N-914 when compared to Wolfgang Uber when using the BRS, because the Uber simply doesn’t release the dirt from the sponge anywhere near as good as the McKee’s. It’s like night/day and if you’re using a sponge or just 1 piece of wash media that makes a big difference.

“Wash media”… How long’s it been since anyone’s said that? Lol.

 

[Klasse Act]

Yeah it seems pure cleaners do that, must be something with Gloss enhancers blocking the cleaners in there

I encourage you guys to try Feynlab RW and Griot's Garage Brillant Finish RW as well

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[UncleDavy]

Rinseless sponges scare the crap out of me. In my opinion, they just move the dirt instead of lifting it off of the surface. I will always use a clean chenille wash mitt or multiple wash mitts with an added rinse bucket. My wash bucket stays relatively clean, the rinse bucket gets all of the dirt and my drying towel stays relatively clean.

 

[Bill D]

I couldn't agree more!

 

[Eldorado2k]

Rinseless sponges scare the crap out of me. In my opinion, they just move the dirt instead of lifting it off of the surface. I will always use a clean chenille wash mitt or multiple wash mitts with an added rinse bucket. My wash bucket stays relatively clean, the rinse bucket gets all of the dirt and my drying towel stays relatively clean.

The sponge by itself would inflict damage, it’s the fact that it’s dripping wet that makes a world of difference. It suddenly becomes super soft & wet, and I’m sure there’s more that I can’t fully explain, but that’s the 1st thing that obviously changes and why no one should judge it by just holding a dry rinseless sponge in their hands.

It’d be like holding a raw steakand declaring it’s not going to taste great and be tender before the chef even gets to grill it. Lol.

 

[DFB]

1 last thing I wanted to add for comparison sake with the OP. This is in reference to the rinseless wash I did in post #49^

I already showed these next 2 pics in my previous post. Btw I have to say that especially considering how much dirt was in the rinse bucket, the wash bucket was remarkably clean after the rinseless.

Look at how much dirt was underneath the Grit Guard in the rinse bucket.

And like I said, it actually felt safe, or at least safe enough considering the vehicle and it’s paint color, etc. but seeing how clean the wash bucket stayed throughout the process and seeing all that dirt at the bottom of the rinse bucket is pretty satisfying.

I must say, I’m impressed by the McKee’s N-914 when compared to Wolfgang Uber when using the BRS, because the Uber simply doesn’t release the dirt from the sponge anywhere near as good as the McKee’s. It’s like night/day and if you’re using a sponge or just 1 piece of wash media that makes a big difference.

“Wash media”… How long’s it been since anyone’s said that? Lol.

I feel sick just looking at that! :wow:

 

[Coatingsarecrack]

Rinseless sponges scare the crap out of me. In my opinion, they just move the dirt instead of lifting it off of the surface. I will always use a clean chenille wash mitt or multiple wash mitts with an added rinse bucket. My wash bucket stays relatively clean, the rinse bucket gets all of the dirt and my drying towel stays relatively clean.

Not being a jerk but your opinion about sponges is like all the folks opinions on rinseless who have never tried them.

They say the same thing about not enough water/lubrication removing contamination on the paint.

But i’m guessing your opinion on rinseless solutions differ from theirs because you have tried it?

I was in the same boat as them about rinseless and as you about sponges till I actually tried them.

I think the sponge works. I wouldn’t use it on the winter grime I just tried it on once i coat and polish but I do think it is effective on moderately dirty car.


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[Eldorado2k]

I used to think rinseless sponges were a bit foolish. I’ve had that BRS tucked away for years. And while the rinseless I performed in this thread might’ve looked a bit crazy, it did a heck of alot to erase most of the doubts that I once had about the sponge method.

The most impressive thing to me was for the amount of grit in my rinse bucket, just look at the wash bucket in comparison and tell me that’s not night/day. IMO that’s pretty freaking amazing there. I’m always willing to try new methods & products.

 

[UncleDavy]

Not being a jerk but your opinion about sponges is like all the folks opinions on rinseless who have never tried them.

They say the same thing about not enough water/lubrication removing contamination on the paint.

But i’m guessing your opinion on rinseless solutions differ from theirs because you have tried it?

I was in the same boat as them about rinseless and as you about sponges till I actually tried them.

I think the sponge works. I wouldn’t use it on the winter grime I just tried it on once i coat and polish but I do think it is effective on moderately dirty car.


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I have done many rinseless washes and I am a big fan. I also do have a rinseless sponge but I have not used it yet. I do plan on trying it one of these days but I always gravitate toward my chenille wash mitts.

 

[Coatingsarecrack]

I have done many rinseless washes and I am a big fan. I also do have a rinseless sponge but I have not used it yet. I do plan on trying it one of these days but I always gravitate toward my chenille wash mitts.

It’s funny how in all seriousness we tend to overthink or see one thing that resonates with us. I use to use chenille exclusively for 2 buckets and rinseless.

Then I saw a video in wash media (Forensics? Apex?) and the looked at them under a microscope and it showed dirt sticking to the tip of the noodle/finger.

Basically said it would stick their at the edge and as you move around you were whipping dirt across paint. There research showed the shorter MF like the Incredimitt did better job of releasing and imbedding dirt.

Was there T actually true? No idea but did a good job of getting ne to buy 15 new mitts and going back to microfiber for rinseless.


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[DanaDetailingPros]

I don't think LC,37,OPT and so on would put there stamp of approval on using a BRS and the others if they would scratch the paint?