Coatingsarecrack
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If you do a pre spray…. No more steps. Spray…. Let dwell… wipe down with rinseless
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If you do a pre spray…. No more steps. Spray…. Let dwell… wipe down with rinseless
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CleanIT
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I think I do. The Ech20 is very slick from the added lubrication so it glides across the glass very easy. I spray it liberally on the glass at 1:25-30. I've never used dedicated glass cleaners. I often use Gyeon ID which also works well. It's more grabby though than Ech20.
I think it's a stupid question but they sell it in 2 variants. What's the order of operations from alkaline & acid to rinseless? I'm guessing I need to invest some time in videos.
I see it's now officially for sale on the Labo website too.
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Klasse Act
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It's a very good product, can't say enough good things about it
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This. Also apparently it can be used with any other rinseless as well. Is it a game changer? Only time will tell, since Eddie Colon likes to over sensationalize products so I will wait to see others opinions on it.
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Here is a comparison I did with DIY and Hero.
https://youtu.be/gwsqrlzjgxQ?si=sLd_FafA5NCzjJGa
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Coatingsarecrack
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I finally watched the EC video. His recommendation was alkaline with each and acid about every three washes.
If all 3 in one go, he said alkaline, spray rinseless, acid, rinseless contact wash. So it certainly would add some steps in that case but can't help but to be intrigued.
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Setec Astronomy
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I'm pretty sure Reggy said even with the conventional 3pH, that most of the time you can just go with Primus 2.0 and skip the Purifica, he might have even said that in that vid he did about it in EC's garage.
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This is there 3ph traditional wash your talking about.
Preludio is a 3ph rinseless in connection with Idrosave.
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Setec Astronomy
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I know that. I'm comparing what EC Details suggested about use of Preludio alkaline/acidic to what Reggy Cox of Labo had said about Primus 2.0 and Purifica.
I saw a video with Reggy of Labocosmetica talking about Preludio and he said that you generally won't be spraying the entire car with either the alkaline or the acidic solution. Working panel by panel, it's more that you hit any areas with either product depending on what it needs. The front end and the lower panels will most likely get pretreated with Preludio Alkaline. Any of the panels that have mineral deposits, and the wheels will get sprayed with Preludio Acidic.
Setec Astronomy
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Where was that? I'd like to see what Reggy has to say.
Talking about Idrosave at the 42-minute mark, Preludio at the 47-minute mark and using Preludio just where needed at the 51-minute mark.
Coatingsarecrack
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Kinda what they showed on Labo video. Use where needed. I think like Eddie said though I’d probably just use Preludio Alkaline as pretreat. Maybe Acidic once a month in winter and once or twice a quarter in other months here in PNW.
One place where Eddie was wrong I think is his 3ph Wash. in Labo video they say completely wipe off Alkaline before doing Acidic as they can neutralize each other and I don’t think just a good rinse with Idrosave works.
I personally would just skip Alkaline pre wash when I do acidic. But if wanting to do full 3ph Labo recommends 2 rinseless wash and dry. One with acidic pre wash and one with alkaline. Rinseless and dry between each.
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Decided to use Absolute instead of Idrosave. Still a great product. It was this that and DiU that lead the way to these new rinseless.
Are some of the newer ones better? Yes but not enough to buy to replace these if you have or just like trying. Maybe Idrosave bacause it is the only rinseless like a wash and coat.
Don’t remember using 2/3 of the bottle of Absolute……
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Are some of the newer ones better? Yes but not enough to buy to replace these if you have or just like trying. Maybe Idrosave bacause it is the only rinseless like a wash and coat.
Don’t remember using 2/3 of the bottle of Absolute……
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CleanIT
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I still love Ech20. I think the cleaning ability goes a bit unrecognized. Yesterday I wiped down interior and engine bay at 1:30. I also cleaned the front door glass with it and it came out great.
The hazing/streaking is part of how it works. Once you go back over it, it wipes right off with no issues.
Per Carpro:
"Before the final step (noted in the product directions) the solution may dry to a fine haze indicating it is ready to wipe off any remaining product effortlessly!"
Coatingsarecrack
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I like it too as well. For me as rinseless doesn’t quite compete with new wave of rinseless but will always be in my arsenal.
At its 1:10/1:15 waterless dilution it is way too streaky. I have found this ratio makes an excellent drying aid if not blowing the car dry 1st.
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Klasse Act
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Agreed
️I tried hard to use/like it as a waterless, I really did but the streaks required buffing and I stopped using it that way...but as a RW, off the charts
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