Rinseless Washes - 2022

Gridlink said:
I finally used ADS Hero today and it absolutely lives up to all the hype. Without a doubt the best overall rinseless wash I've ever used. What stood out to me the most was the wipe off. Nothing I've used comes close to how cleanly and easily it wiped off leaving no excess solution behind with one pass of my Autofiber Dreadnought Max. No extra buffing, streaking, or anything left behind.

My car was just a little dusty with minor spots from rain earlier in the week so this was no a great test of it's cleaning power. That said, the solution with my TRG Ultra Black sponge was slightly slicker than my usual Absolute and miles better than Feynlab.

Overall just a really good experience and I don't see myself reaching for anything else for normal rinseless washes anytime soon. Absolute has been good but Hero is just better overall. Both Feynlab Pure Rinseless and Idrosave have more special use cases. Feynlab for decontamination washes and Idrosave for winter washes with it's added protection. Though I'm questioning if I'm going to need to figure out how to remove that protection come Spring when I want to reapply a more long term ceramic sealant. It's a bit of shame to relegate Absolute to my 'no longer using' shelf but that's how it goes sometimes.
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As someone who has 6 different RW's to chose from I say don't put Absolut away, just use it from time to time, it's a great product and once you use it up, look at it like this, you've saved your new favorite and have more of IT

I've used ASD Hero twice now and really like it but I've gotta ask...have you tried Gyeon ECO wash RW yet

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I have not. At this point I don't have a need for another rinseless with protection unless Gyeon's isn't as stout as Labocosmetica's and will be easy to remove for when I want to apply a dedicated sealant. I honestly wish I had known Idrosave was formulated with protection because then I wouldn't have bought it.

To be honest, I feel like I've found my go to products for pretty much everything, and don't feel the need to buy anything else until I run low on what I have.
 
Gridlink said:
I finally used ADS Hero today and it absolutely lives up to all the hype. Without a doubt the best overall rinseless wash I've ever used. What stood out to me the most was the wipe off. Nothing I've used comes close to how cleanly and easily it wiped off leaving no excess solution behind with one pass of my Autofiber Dreadnought Max. No extra buffing, streaking, or anything left behind.

My car was just a little dusty with minor spots from rain earlier in the week so this was no a great test of it's cleaning power. That said, the solution with my TRG Ultra Black sponge was slightly slicker than my usual Absolute and miles better than Feynlab.

Overall just a really good experience and I don't see myself reaching for anything else for normal rinseless washes anytime soon. Absolute has been good but Hero is just better overall. Both Feynlab Pure Rinseless and Idrosave have more special use cases. Feynlab for decontamination washes and Idrosave for winter washes with it's added protection. Though I'm questioning if I'm going to need to figure out how to remove that protection come Spring when I want to reapply a more long term ceramic sealant. It's a bit of shame to relegate Absolute to my 'no longer using' shelf but that's how it goes sometimes.
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After using Hero a couple of times now, I would echo those sentiments.



I know Absolute has its quirks, but I really like the feel of it, especially the slick and glossy finish when teamed with Bead Maker, the scent is addictive too. So, Absolute has been a go-to for me, as I have said in the past, its THE rinse-less that gave me the confidence to use this wash method. I've favored polymer rinse-less products for the way they feel, being less grabby and "safer" feeling. Hence Absolute, ONR and Opti-ONR being my favorites.

Hero though is different in that its a hybrid polymer/surfactant formulation. Knowing this, I expected that grabbier feel with Hero, but I've found the opposite. Compared to Absolute, Hero mixes easier and doesn't have a tendency to separate in the bucket. Hero also appears to glide over the paint better and doesn't leave polymer spots if it happens to dry on the paint. I've been teaming it with Amplify or Adapt as the drying aid.



This is Hero topped with Amplify, a very pleasing finished result that is somewhat hard to portray on non-metallic white paint.



So, I think Hero is my new favorite rinse-less. I note that Hero sold out within 3 days of going on sale in Australia, which is weird as most Aussies are desperately frightened of rinse-less washing.
 
I still need to get around to using Idrosave more, the problem with having 7 different RW's, especially Gyeon ECO wash and ADS Hero in the mix

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Klasse Act said:
I still need to get around to using Idrosave more, the problem with having 7 different RW's, especially Gyeon ECO wash and ADS Hero in the mix

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I know the feeling. I have multiple also.
 
I only have three different rinseless washes . Had never heard of ADS Hero until a few days ago. So I researched it a little bit and I thought wow this is expensive. Same price as a few others that are $20.00 for 32 oz bottle but Hero is $20.00 for 16 oz bottle.
Maybe I haven't tried enough different Rinseless washes but they seem to be very similar with only minor differences.
 
I only have three different rinseless washes . Had never heard of ADS Hero until a few days ago. So I researched it a little bit and I thought wow this is expensive. Same price as a few others that are $20.00 for 32 oz bottle but Hero is $20.00 for 16 oz bottle.
Maybe I haven't tried enough different Rinseless washes but they seem to be very similar with only minor differences.
 
BLM said:
I only have three different rinseless washes . Had never heard of ADS Hero until a few days ago. So I researched it a little bit and I thought wow this is expensive. Same price as a few others that are $20.00 for 32 oz bottle but Hero is $20.00 for 16 oz bottle.
Maybe I haven't tried enough different Rinseless washes but they seem to be very similar with only minor differences.
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DIY Detail Rinseless is similar in price. It's $1 less for the same size bottle. Both that and Hero are available in gallons which are a better deal but mean buying a lot of product.
 
I guess I didn't pay that much attention to this before, that while most RW suppliers have a quart/liter size, some like DIY and ADS go from a pint (16oz) right to a gallon. Also some have smaller 8oz/250ml sizes (Idrosave, ONR, ONRWW...ONR even has a 4 oz size, at least if you're buying direct), while Gyeon (so far) is only avail in 1L. I've appreciated that the Optimum and Idrosave are available in ~8oz as that has let me try the newer versions while not adding so much to my backlog of older products.
 
DFB said:
After using Hero a couple of times now, I would echo those sentiments.



I know Absolute has its quirks, but I really like the feel of it, especially the slick and glossy finish when teamed with Bead Maker, the scent is addictive too. So, Absolute has been a go-to for me, as I have said in the past, its THE rinse-less that gave me the confidence to use this wash method. I've favored polymer rinse-less products for the way they feel, being less grabby and "safer" feeling. Hence Absolute, ONR and Opti-ONR being my favorites.

Hero though is different in that its a hybrid polymer/surfactant formulation. Knowing this, I expected that grabbier feel with Hero, but I've found the opposite. Compared to Absolute, Hero mixes easier and doesn't have a tendency to separate in the bucket. Hero also appears to glide over the paint better and doesn't leave polymer spots if it happens to dry on the paint. I've been teaming it with Amplify or Adapt as the drying aid.



This is Hero topped with Amplify, a very pleasing finished result that is somewhat hard to portray on non-metallic white paint.



So, I think Hero is my new favorite rinse-less. I note that Hero sold out within 3 days of going on sale in Australia, which is weird as most Aussies are desperately frightened of rinse-less washing.
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Any issues with adapt streaking? I get that on dark paints. Although i rememeber mike g saying they came out with a v2 to fix that issue. Which the gallon i have is from the early days

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opie said:
Any issues with adapt streaking? I get that on dark paints. Although i rememeber mike g saying they came out with a v2 to fix that issue. Which the gallon i have is from the early days

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I had some ghosting yesterday on the Jag (dark red), but it was also very cold and a lot of moisture in the air. On the flip side, I switched to Amplify on the Ranger (white) and it dealt better in those conditions.
 
Well, Reggy did a couple of videos for Idrosave and Preludio, and I just don't really see how to get the Preludio into the process. The dilution rate is so low (1:5 or 1:10), if you use it as a normal prespray you'd go through the bottle pretty fast. So the suggestion that it's not a routine product, but a special situation one, really doesn't lend itself to integrating into your process, IMO.

If I ever take the plunge and buy the Preludio twins, I might dilute them far further and substitute that for a normal prespray. Not that I'm really a big presprayer.
 
Used Oberk rinseless again today. Can’t find a complaint.


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I am trying to absorb all of the info here on the latest and greatest rinseless washes and my takeaway is that it would be hard to find an actual BAD product among the ones being discussed over the last few months

This is leading to "deer in the headlights" syndrome on actually selecting a product or family of products so I can move beyond ONR and N914, but that's nothing new in the detailing world

In the meantime let me shift focus and ask you gurus about sponges

After almost 2 decades of RW experience I think I am ready to at least try a sponge and give my GD multi towel process a rest

Since I seriously doubt that all these companies that sell rinseless specific sponges actually make them, I have to assume that many or most of them come from just a few manufacturers and might possibly only vary in color, shape, etc

Is the brand of rinseless sponge I choose critical as long as I stay within the brand name players?
 
chilly said:
I am trying to absorb all of the info here on the latest and greatest rinseless washes and my takeaway is that it would be hard to find an actual BAD product among the ones being discussed over the last few months

This is leading to "deer in the headlights" syndrome on actually selecting a product or family of products so I can move beyond ONR and N914, but that's nothing new in the detailing world

In the meantime let me shift focus and ask you gurus about sponges

After almost 2 decades of RW experience I think I am ready to at least try a sponge and give my GD multi towel process a rest

Since I seriously doubt that all these companies that sell rinseless specific sponges actually make them, I have to assume that many or most of them come from just a few manufacturers and might possibly only vary in color, shape, etc

Is the brand of rinseless sponge I choose critical as long as I stay within the brand name players?
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DIY Detail Legacy sponge

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chilly said:
I am trying to absorb all of the info here on the latest and greatest rinseless washes and my takeaway is that it would be hard to find an actual BAD product among the ones being discussed over the last few months
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I was just thinking this. I tried quite a few and they all did the job IMO. I did a RW today using Ech20. Car wasn't that dirty, which is the only time I will do a RW. I wanted to see how it would do in the heat. I used BRS and wash mitts. Surface of the car was warm to the touch. I used 2 gal of distilled water and 1.5 oz of Ech20. It came out great. Flashed off and wiped off very easily. Left that Ech20 gloss behind too. I wouldn't mind also having a polymer RW on hand for when I don't want to leave anything behind.
 
Klasse Act said:
DIY Detail Legacy sponge

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I find it interesting that on the videos I have seen from The Guz where he is comparing rinseless washes for lubricity he purposefully leaves the sponges in the bucket and uses plush edgeless towels to better feel the slickness of the wash

I also kind of like the idea of a light color sponge like McKees golden color sponge because it shows dirt removed and shows if the sponge is clean after rinsing

That’s sure a confidence builder


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chilly said:
I find it interesting that on the videos I have seen from The Guz where he is comparing rinseless washes for lubricity he purposefully leaves the sponges in the bucket and uses plush edgeless towels to better feel the slickness of the wash

I also kind of like the idea of a light color sponge like McKees golden color sponge because it shows dirt removed and shows if the sponge is clean after rinsing

That’s sure a confidence builder


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Yup, I wouldn’t want to be using a black sponge. Like what were they thinking with that decision?

Meguiars used to provide a black foam applicator with Ultimate Liquid Wax, but everytime I use one of their yellow foam applicators to apply sealant to an entire vehicle there’s some black stains on it so I never really liked those black applicators either.
 
chilly said:
I find it interesting that on the videos I have seen from The Guz where he is comparing rinseless washes for lubricity he purposefully leaves the sponges in the bucket and uses plush edgeless towels to better feel the slickness of the wash

I also kind of like the idea of a light color sponge like McKees golden color sponge because it shows dirt removed and shows if the sponge is clean after rinsing

That’s sure a confidence builder


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The DIY Detail Legacy sponge is red and black, so I use the black for glass and red for the rest, old grout sponge for tires & wheels

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