Rinseless Washes - 2022

Rand0m said:
Great thread. About to finish my gallon of N914 so I'm looking at trying something new. Looks like either DIY or Absolute. I always liked how ONR wiped (slick) but N914 cleans a bit better. I use the Gary Dean method with microfibers and pretreat with an electric pump sprayer. I like the simplicity/ease of something like a BRS/UBS but rather not want to worry about squeezing/rinsing out the sponge every time I go back to the panel. I wonder if anyone out there going a step further and is using the Gary Dean method with multiple sponges :laughing:
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It's very quick and easy to release the dirt from the big gold sponge. You don't need to use multiple sponges IMO. It will take away from the simplicity. 2 sponges maybe...i like the red sponge from owner's pride for instance. It's waffle on one side and flat on the other. Much like the kamikazee sponge. I might pick up the kami one. Unless OP comes to Canada the next year or something - i mentioned them to carzilla(email) a few weeks he said he was going to pass it on to his marketing team or something.. In that case I would get the red sponge and ecowash. I like the red sponge better than black. Black sponge's don't interest me personally.
 
noorth said:
It's very quick and easy to release the dirt from the big gold sponge. You don't need to use multiple sponges IMO. It will take away from the simplicity. 2 sponges maybe...i like the red sponge from owner's pride for instance. It's waffle on one side and flat on the other. Much like the kamikazee sponge. I might pick up the kami one. Unless OP comes to Canada the next year or something - i mentioned them to carzilla(email) a few weeks he said he was going to pass it on to his marketing team or something.. In that case I would get the red sponge and ecowash.
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Just an OCD kind of thing. Minimize contamination and more efficient. I use 1 bucket and multiple mitts for contact washes as well. ~6 folded MF towels is enough for rinseless washes on my cars but it'd probably take double the sponges. I wouldn't do it but I wonder if anyone does. I remember seeing an Obsessed garage video of Matt using a couple of those black Kamikaze sponges for his black s2000.
 
Rand0m said:
Just an OCD kind of thing. Minimize contamination and more efficient. I use 1 bucket and multiple mitts for contact washes as well. ~6 folded MF towels is enough for rinseless washes on my cars but it'd probably take 2-3x sponges. I wouldn't do it but I wonder if anyone does. I remember seeing an Obsessed garage video of Matt using a couple of those black Kamikaze sponges for his black s2000.
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Its fine if you want to of course. Maybe I would if I had a supercar :)

I'll probably end up with 2 myself. just to try another sponge.
 
noorth said:
Its fine if you want to of course. Maybe I would if I had a supercar :)

I'll probably end up with 2 myself. just to try another sponge.
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Seeing someone handling a dozen sponges would be a sight to see as well :laughing:
 
I wonder if Feynlab at a higher dilution ratio could still clean well but be gentler on toppers. Something like upping the dilution to 1:350-500 up from it's usual 1:250.
 
Gridlink said:
I wonder if Feynlab at a higher dilution ratio could still clean well but be gentler on toppers. Something like upping the dilution to 1:350-500 up from it's usual 1:250.
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Maybe but a topper is so sacrificial that it doesn't matter much. I'd stay away from Feynlab if your worried about that because they have a one track mind...clean and leave nothing behind, take no prisoners ️

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Rand0m said:
I want to try them both but will probably start with the 32oz Absolute. I've used Ultima and Wolfgang in the past as well. They all work well enough for my use but N914 has been my favorite to date. I do rinseless washes often for maintenance of coated cars but if the car is dirtier I'll do a contact wash (usually every handful of washes).
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Why not try both? :props:

I think if you prefer the feel of ONR, you will enjoy using Absolute even more. If you want to go nuts, Absolute with Bead Maker as a drying aid takes it to the next level, by far my most favorite rinse-less combinations.

That doesn't mean DIY is not worth looking at, I would argue it would offer an edge in cleaning ability, just like when comparing ONR to N-914.

Once more that I would put on your list is the Opti-Coat version of ONR, which is probably closer to ECH20 in concept. I really loved using this version of ONR, the mango scent is addictive.

 
DFB said:
Why not try both? :props:

I think if you prefer the feel of ONR, you will enjoy using Absolute even more. If you want to go nuts, Absolute with Bead Maker as a drying aid takes it to the next level, by far my most favorite rinse-less combinations.

That doesn't mean DIY is not worth looking at, I would argue it would offer an edge in cleaning ability, just like when comparing ONR to N-914.

Once more that I would put on your list is the Opti-Coat version of ONR, which is probably closer to ECH20 in concept. I really loved using this version of ONR, the mango scent is addictive.

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Wish the would sell it in larger sizes to make it more economical.
 
So what are the cliffnotes to this thread?

Which rinseless releases dirt off a rinseless sponge the best?

Which rinseless makes dirt sink to the bottom of the wash/rinse bucket beneath the grit guard best?
 
Bert31 said:
Wish the would sell it in larger sizes to make it more economical.
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Yeah, 16oz is way too small if you're using it often. I always end up buying a gallon if I like the product. Not only economical but easier to stock in my cabinet. I put stuff that needs be diluted in the same kind of measuring bottles Wolfgang Uber comes in. Way quicker and less messy than using caps or measuring cups.

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DFB said:
Why not try both? :props:

I think if you prefer the feel of ONR, you will enjoy using Absolute even more. If you want to go nuts, Absolute with Bead Maker as a drying aid takes it to the next level, by far my most favorite rinse-less combinations.

That doesn't mean DIY is not worth looking at, I would argue it would offer an edge in cleaning ability, just like when comparing ONR to N-914.

Once more that I would put on your list is the Opti-Coat version of ONR, which is probably closer to ECH20 in concept. I really loved using this version of ONR, the mango scent is addictive.
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Eventually will. I like to use a product a couple times on multiple cars then compare. TBH, most rinseless washes work fine on my cars since they are coated and get pretty regular maintance washes. The cleaning power of N-914 is nice when I use it to clean randomly dirty areas like wheels, trim, exhausts, non-car cleaning, etc... I use it almost like an APC-lite.

How are you mixing Absolute and Bead Maker and what is the advantage? I already use Beadmaker as a drying aid.
 
Coatingsarecrack said:
Which one do you prefer?


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I'm starting to like DIY more - not a huge fan of the color or smell. Seems to clean better and mixes very well. Even using it inside the house it's pretty good. Absolute is not the greatest for off label uses so far.

I might buy a gallon of DIY next year. Unless something else comes out or owner's pride canada starts using some reasonable shipping companies. Shipping is ridiculous.
 
noorth said:
I'm starting to like DIY more - not a huge fan of the color or smell. Seems to clean better and mixes very well. Even using it inside the house it's pretty good. Absolute is not the greatest for off label uses so far.

I might buy a gallon of DIY next year. Unless something else comes out or owner's pride canada starts using some reasonable shipping companies. Shipping is ridiculous.
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Is Griot's Garage available up there? If so, have you tried Brillant Shine rinseless?

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noorth said:
I think i can get it on one site. No i haven't used it.
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Well it's a very good product, fairly priced AND from Griot's Garage AND is a pure cleaner

I think you'll like it actually

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