rupes mark II 21" vs 15"
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DaveT435
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The machine runs cooler than the 3401. When using proper technique heat isn't an issue with the pads. Especially pads with the hole in the center to dissipate heat more effectively. You don't use the downward force with the long throws like you do the Flex.
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i dont have hole in center of pads its older model of heks logic pads mf megs dont have same and shool spider pads is that a problem bicouse of tem but flex is force D/A mashine 8 mm
and i will by a nano same whti long neck... same form ruepes
say not force to much on mashine?if i understand you
and i will by a nano same whti long neck... same form ruepes
say not force to much on mashine?if i understand you
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I agree.
I think in my RUPES how-to book one of the things I share is to take everything you've learned and know about buffing with all other polishers, as far as technique and throw it out the window.
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I agree.
I think in my RUPES how-to book one of the things I share is to take everything you've learned and know about buffing with all other polishers, as far as technique and throw it out the window.
I was supposed to get a copy of your book free when I bought my mini on Autopia but I ordered it over the phone and didn't get the book with the machine. I really enjoyed the one book of yours I have. Your explanations are very thorough and easy to understand.
It took me a few years to finally break down and buy a Rupes. Bought the ibird and after seeing the quality of that machine and how well it worked I got a 15 Mark II and a mini witching a few weeks. With my back issues they have added even more enjoyment to doing paint corrections.
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no just ask mcompare bicouse what is beter big foot 15" or 21 " bicouse of heat temp.on pads and what preasure what use i never use rupes ok light preusre and go slow whit mashine, 6" pads are good for rupse 21
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I don't see a link for the downloadable version yet. Hopefully Mike will chime in.
You can also get a 5" backing plate for the 21 I believe. I find the 15 to be more versatile. Here is a link to the book itself which they can ship. Not sure about freight costs,
Mike Phillips’ How to Use The RUPES Bigfoot Paint Polishing System
You can also get a 5" backing plate for the 21 I believe. I find the 15 to be more versatile. Here is a link to the book itself which they can ship. Not sure about freight costs,
Mike Phillips’ How to Use The RUPES Bigfoot Paint Polishing System
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When you say more powerful, do you mean more pad spinning torque?
Yep, definitely more torque turning the pad and keeping rotation. You will find most rotation complaints on any brand long throw being on the 15. The 21 especially the MKII has the best rotation and outright grunt. The 15 MKII will still be more powerful than any long throw on the market but not the 21 MKII.
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Makes sense. The momentum of the huge 21mm throw in itself helps with rotation.
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Zubair, do you use a washer in any of your Rupes?
Yes I do but no need with the Kamakazi's that are on there now. The MKII's seem to benefit more from being free than the MKI's. The 21 MKII is ridiculous in correction just like a rotary and should come with a warning, not because it will burn paint but because it removes paint unlike any dual action in existence.
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In your opinion, is there a NOTICEABLE power(pad rotation) difference between the MK1 15 and the MK II 15? I was unimpressed with the MK1 15 as far as pad rotation.
Yes there is but I am very critical so my noticeable and yours might be different as its very subjective. However....Don't get too caught up on rotation. The question you should be asking is there a noticeable difference in correction between the 15 MKI and MKII, then yes there is. What spoilt it for me was I didn't go from a 15ES to a 15 MKII, I went big one time and went 21 MKII. I then shortly bought a 15 MKII as they claimed it closes the power on the 21 through higher speeds. So I thought cool, insane cut plus versatility of a shorter throw. Turned out that wasn't exactly true, its more powerful than an ES but nothing like the 21 MKII in correction. 15 MKII is a very nice all rounder, smooth,powerful and useable. It will outcut all other DA's but having owned the 21 MKII just before it kinda spoilt it for me. If I didn't own the 21 I would be singing songs of the 15.
Precisely why I don't take opinions on this forum by people who don't own all as they only know what they own and rave about it without knowing theres better out there...much better...
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Good stuff. Thank you.
MK II 21 with a 5" BP would seem to be a great. The 5" backing plate would make the 21mm throw a lot more versatile. I'm just guessing, tho...
Thats my favorite speed correction demon combo. I use the 21 MKII with a 5" Kamakazi Beast and it makes my 3401 look like a PC24.