Scored a few high end cars, need you help!

RaskyR1 said:
While I think we may be coming off as a little harsh, no detailer should be working on cars of that caliber without insurance. The $2000 damage that was done on the Lambo last year by you know who is a prime example for why you need insurance...even though it never should have happened in the first place.

The questions listed by the OP do come off as question that would only be asked by a less experienced detailer and the only one that doesn't raise a flag for me is the 1st question about the matte paint. That and the thread title alone raises a big flag.

I think the reason behind a lot of the above posts is that it looks bad for the whole detailing community when an inexperienced detailer gets in over there head and messes up a high dollar car.
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completely understand the insurance point. if it was a good friend or family member, i would do it. otherwise, i wouldnt do it without having done cars similar. meaning working my way up to a high end exotic. like vettes, to big beemers and mercedes, to smaller exotics like lotus, and so on.

you would prolly gain a lot of respect from these owners if you went to them and explained that you dont have insurance and you would not want to put there "babies" at any risk. Its not lowering yourself, it would be respectful to the owners and there cars.
 
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JonnyBob said:
Ok guys you bashed him enough, its his job and his money so let him do what he wants. He is a big boy. Plus if you think about it what is a forum for??? its to ask questions and get answers not to be bashed or verbally flogged. Constructrive critisim is good, no its great, its what you need, but bashing is not. If you think about it if anyone asked a question on here couldnt they be considered "not experienced enough" to touch a car? A forum is for getting help and I have seen very few posts answering his questions or trying to help. Regardless of what you think of the poster and his "ego" shouldnt you try to help him. Once something is said once there is no need to beat a dead horse.

PLEASE DONT anyone take it the wrong way, I love the forum and I love the info I have recieved but this guy deserves the same. He knows the risks faced and he probably has accepted them so let him do what he does and if you can help then do.

All I will say on his questions is if you feel comfortable enough to work on them then who am I to say you are not capable... afterall I have never met you or seen your work or seen you in action. Let me say, Best of luck to you!!!
Jon
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Exactly! Thank you sir!

07 z-oh-6 said:
I'm not bashing you. Logically thinking, it just doesn't make sense you would even consider working on such expensive cars when your knowledge of polishing is not that of an experienced polisher. How would you feel if you owned one of these high end cars and someone had all of these questions, would you be comfortable letting that person polish it? I'm not saying you're a complete noob, but you're in way over your head.
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turbos17 said:
+1. Learn, get experience, take courses, ask the pro's, etc. Then you can step up to the big boys! :xyxthumbs:

And BTW, if you don't like other people's opinion don't even bother posting on this message board. :nomore: Forums are for opinions, Feed back please, facts, shared info, research, knowledge, etc. :rolleyes:
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I gotta admit it, to some - this maybe way too over my head. In fact, these guys will call me and work out from there. I haven't detail these cars yet. Honestly, most of these cars I just mentioned, are garage queens and have not been through hell. So not much polishing work needs to be done. I will be working on a Lambo LP640 tomorrow, so there's a good start for some of you.

I appreciate the comments - harsh or no. I'll keep it in mind and be extremely careful with whatever I'm doing. It's a stepping stone, because eventually, we detailers have to move on to some exotics some day.
 
anson89 said:
Exactly! Thank you sir!





I gotta admit it, to some - this maybe way too over my head. In fact, these guys will call me and work out from there. I haven't detail these cars yet. Honestly, most of these cars I just mentioned, are garage queens and have not been through hell. So not much polishing work needs to be done. I will be working on a Lambo LP640 tomorrow, so there's a good start for some of you.

I appreciate the comments - harsh or no. I'll keep it in mind and be extremely careful with whatever I'm doing. It's a stepping stone, because eventually, we detailers have to move on to some exotics some day.
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How about some :Picture:after you finish the Lambo LP640 tomorrow.
 
It's like having open heart surgery by a Vet.
 
anson89 said:
I appreciate the comments - harsh or no. I'll keep it in mind and be extremely careful with whatever I'm doing. It's a stepping stone, because eventually, we detailers have to move on to some exotics some day.
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I never intentionally leave any harsh comments or be overly critical of anyones posts, it accomplishes nothing and does more harm then good.

When commenting I try to be constructive focusing on the facts at hand and leaving some constructive comments and also caution when I feel it's warranted.

Detailing is an art and not a science. It takes quite a bit of experiance to be comfortable with the equipment you're using, the choices in chemicals, and knowing how and when to use them.

Another facet of detailing is to know everything about the finish on the car before you start. The finish, its condition, color, and its clear-coat, should play a factor in how you approach the job and what products or chemicals you should select.

Know in advance what your customers goals are and what they expect to see when you're through. Have them understand that you are building your skills as you move ahead and that your fee correlates with the quality and thoroughness of the finished product.

Proceed with caution and take your time.

Good luck!
 
Rsurfer said:
It's like having open heart surgery by a Vet.
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Or any major surgical procedure! :xyxthumbs:

BobbyG said:
I never intentionally leave any harsh comments or be overly critical of anyones posts, it accomplishes nothing and does more harm then good.

When commenting I try to be constructive focusing on the facts at hand and leaving some constructive comments and also caution when I feel it's warranted.
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I whole heartily disagree! What is wrong with calling a spade a spade? This is the problem with society nowadays. We are too freaking soft and have no gravitas anymore! The PC crap has made us pansies period! It is good to get a lashing by people and be told how it is. I guess I was brought up old school and I am only 26. I will continue to be a "straight shooter" and speak my piece. Whether people agree to disagree some people just need to get over themselves and take it like a "man or woman." Toughen up people...geez!

P.S. Still haven't seen any before pictures of all those cars!
 
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turbos17 said:
P.S. Still haven't seen any before pictures of all those cars!
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He is detailing a LP640, don't rush him! Good luck to the OP, I do agree with you that you can never learn or gain experience until you take the jump and work on cars like this. Each one will have its nuances, but it is part of the learning experience in my opinion and is one that many detailers have persevered through (and been highly successful).
 
turbos17 said:
Or any major surgical procedure! :xyxthumbs:




I whole heartily disagree! What is wrong with calling a spade a spade? This is the problem with society nowadays. We are too freaking soft and have no gravitas anymore! The PC crap has made us pansies period! It is good to get a lashing by people and be told how it is. I guess I was brought up old school and I am only 26. I will continue to be a "straight shooter" and speak my piece. Whether people agree to disagree some people just need to get over themselves and take it like a "man or woman." Toughen up people...geez!

P.S. Still haven't seen any before pictures of all those cars!
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This is America, we all have the right to disagree and I more then most can and have called a spade a spade. I'm probably one of the most politically incorrect people on the planet. It's not about having the balls to lay someone out it's how you do it and what outcome you're trying to achieve.

I'm 57 so when we talk about old school were talking about 2 different points in time.

There's nothing wrong with constructive criticism but to criticize and bash someone won't go far and you gain very little. Keyboard commandos are very quickly identified and loose credibility among there piers.
 
Wendell Jarvis said:
:iagree: I also have customers sign off on a document I created stating condition of car when brought in to me, scratches, dents..damage in general,,,then I take pics before detailing (sometimes with customer in picture) just to cover my butt, plus I am insured too.
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What insurance are you carrying as a mobile detailer??
 
BobbyG said:
This is America, we all have the right to disagree and I more then most can and have called a spade a spade. I'm probably one of the most politically incorrect people on the planet. It's not about having the balls to lay someone out it's how you do it and what outcome you're trying to achieve.

I'm 57 so when we talk about old school were talking about 2 different points in time.

There's nothing wrong with constructive criticism but to criticize and bash someone won't go far and you gain very little. Keyboard commandos are very quickly identified and loose credibility among there piers.
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I am glad you aren't PC. We should meet and have a beer sometime (that is if you lived closer...lol!) Things on a forum/message board/text messages/writings do and always come across differently than standing face to face speaking and using body language.

Yes, you are old enough to be my dad. With that being said I am very old school and was taught that at a young age. (In runs in the blood lines) :props:

Constructive criticism is good in moderation. Nowadays it is overly used in my opinion. PC run a muck! People need an a good lashing from time to time with words/verbage/tirades/etc. Trust me I have had both sides of the spectrum from my parents, college baseball, at work, and everyday life. Nobody like to get lashed at, but it at times it is well deserved and drives the point home...period!

Now now with the keyboard commando comment. I personally like "tough guy behind the computer screen." LOL!

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