Several drying technique questions

HateSwirls said:
It not only helps to dry the car but my black car leaves a lot of water spots, using a DS really helps with the water spots plus leaves a nice finish.

A lot of detailers do the same, try it out for yourself and get back with me:dblthumb2:
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I have done it both ways on my black SUV

I don't understand why....if you are also going to use a spray wax...you would use a detail spray 1st on a car that is already clean

Doesn't that sound like an unnecessary extra step to you?
 
hernandez.art13 said:
Here is a different answer,

$10.99
Meguiars Ultimate Quik Wax, spray wax, synthetic spray wax, quick wax, meguiars quick spray wax, paint protectant, liquid wax, meguires, meguiars car
15.2 oz

$20.99
Ultima Waterless Wash Plus+ Concentrate, concentrated waterless auto wash, waterless car wash
16oz x 22 = 352oz. of WW

$19.99
Meguiars Last Touch Spray Detailer is the last step to making an excellent first impression! Wipe away dust and fingerprints with Meguiars Last Touch

128 oz

It does make sense on applying a new layer of protection each time. But cost does play a factor in this.

There is also this that does have wax in it. and I've actually seen the wax in person.

Pinnacle Liquid Crystal Waterless Wash Concentrate with Carnauba, waterless car wash, eco friendly car wash products
$79.99

I actually have around 3/4 of the gallon.
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In this scenario the question was not choosing which is best...QD or Spray Wax

It is guys that are washing, QD and then Spray Wax...what does the QD do that the spray wax does not?
 
When I have used Spray Wax as a drying aid. IMO it does leave an extra layer behind.

So if that is what one is after then a spray wax would be a good choice.

I have Optimum Spray Wax and use it on my opti coated paint. and IMO it does leave a slicker, glossier look after. I would imagine that the Spray Waxes listed above would do the same.

I do want to try out Opti Seal. I really wish Meguiar's would hop on board on all this nano technology. I did see a Meguiar's Coating on Ebay, but it was starting or selling for $150.

If Meguiar's made this I would love to try it.
 
hernandez.art13 said:
I really wish Meguiar's would hop on board on all this nano technology. I did see a Meguiar's Coating on Ebay, but it was starting or selling for $150.

If Meguiar's made this I would love to try it.
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I would love to see meguiars come out with a coating as well!


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allenk4 said:
I have done it both ways on my black SUV

I don't understand why....if you are also going to use a spray wax...you would use a detail spray 1st on a car that is already clean

Doesn't that sound like an unnecessary extra step to you?
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I agree, but if I was using a sealant as the next step, I may not want a spray wax interfering with that. In the latter case, I just want the detail spray to minimize the potential for water spots.
 
KBsSS said:
I use Lucas Spray wax on wifes work van which seem to hold up pretty good. Our cars get FK 425 because they get cleaned more often.
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Lucas Slick Mist is really good--a sleeper product. I got some a while back and you can use as a drying aid, it's pretty slick, and you can use in direct sunlight without any streaking. I even used on the windows and it worked great!
 
chet31 said:
I agree, but if I was using a sealant as the next step, I may not want a spray wax interfering with that. In the latter case, I just want the detail spray to minimize the potential for water spots.
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Ahhhh....adding variables

The reality is that there is very little difference between many of the detail sprays, spray waxes and waterless/rinseless wash products. Anything that claims to leave behind a "layer of Protection", "increased gloss", "slickness, etc....probably should not be used before a sealant or coating.

Find a process that works for you and have Fun.

I am still wondering why, with so many effective products out there, that anyone needs to follow detail spray with spray wax.

Real answer is we like rubbing on paint.
 
I use ONR as a detail spray, which claims gloss enhancement, but I think it leaves minimal additives behind. Some spray waxes bead water for months, so are laying down a pretty serious coating. But I think you're right, many detailers and spray waxes are similar.
 
stemyx said:
Do you prefer a regular damp MF towel over a waffle weave?
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I would highly recommend finding and using a dry plush, long nap, and absorbent drying medium over a waffle weave. Preferably in a light color so you may be able to monitor your washing patterns.

A longer napped Microfiber towel is much softer and pliable on the surface and, with its added weight, requires very little pressure if any to remove water from the surface. The less friction placed on the paint at any time the better. Also, since the nap is longer is has no issues conforming to panel transitions and contours with little, if any, additional pressure.

Secondly, the longer more pliable weave is better at picking up and holding any water and left over contaminants (dirt) not removed in the washing process. As opposed to a waffle weave which has substantially less surface area to hold water or contaminants. Also, with little effort the super plush towel will be able to be used in hard to reach areas be cause of the longer nap's ability to conform. Something which waffle weave simply cannot do at all.

Since drying is the last step in the "cleaning" process, why not make it as safe as possible and use the medium that ensures maximal absorbency and minimal marring?
 
Get the car perfectly clean. Use a nice thick MF towel with UWW+. This fits Meguiars recommendation for a polymer protectant. As soon as you wipe with the thick MF towel and UWW+ follow with a waffle weave like the guzzler to assure there are no streaks and it's perfectly dry. It's like a final wipe and glides effortlessly due to the polymer protection. Costs pennies to do it this way. Nice shine every time. You can always spray Aquawax on a couple times of month to take it up a notch. The waterless wash wipe down after the 2 bucket wash ensures a spotless finish no marring because of the lubricants in the UWW+. I use this method when my cars get caught in snow and rain. The guzzler comes out perfectly clean...not a spot of dirt on it showing how clean the car is prior to final wipe down.

Otherwise, ONR Show n Shine..rinseless, quick, and another polymer layer of protection.

To answer the OP's question.....I prefer both. A damp mf and a waffle weave.
 
Microfiber Madness "Dry Me Crazy" towel is the best. Any MM towel is good.

Do not use any type of polymers before you lay down your LSP.

Yes, QD's serve as an excellent drying aid.
 
Don't want to get on a forum war Mark :)

But I found Chemical Guys Woolly Mammoth beat Dry Me Crazy. Weird because I thought it was going to be the other way around. :dunno:


Side Note: I told someone about the Woolly Mammoth Towel. They then tell me a few months later that they sold one towel to one of their customers for $85 dollars.

Do you guys think that is wrong? Or just business? :dunno:

Also has no one tried the Woolly Mammoth towel??? It's a great towel and I use UWW+ as a drying aid.

My rinseless wash should be coming in Thursday So excited for that. I'm sure I'll come out with something different or new after I start using it all the time.
 
hernandez.art13 said:
Don't want to get on a forum war Mark :)

But I found Chemical Guys Woolly Mammoth beat Dry Me Crazy. Weird because I thought it was going to be the other way around. :dunno:


Side Note: I told someone about the Woolly Mammoth Towel. They then tell me a few months later that they sold one towel to one of their customers for $85 dollars.

Do you guys think that is wrong? Or just business? :dunno:

Also has no one tried the Woolly Mammoth towel??? It's a great towel and I use UWW+ as a drying aid.

My rinseless wash should be coming in Thursday So excited for that. I'm sure I'll come out with something different or new after I start using it all the time.
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That towel is too big and I guarantee you the woolly MF isn't as good of quality as the MM. To each their own. :props:
 
Thank you all for the answers so far! Really helpful. :)

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After sheeting the water if the car I normally spray some some dp waterless wash and use the griot waffle weave towel, works like a charm for me. I feel the waterless wash has a lot more lubricant then a spray detail just my opinion.

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hernandez.art13 said:
Also has no one tried the Woolly Mammoth towel??? It's a great towel and I use UWW+ as a drying aid.
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I have Chemical Guys "Grey Matter" Waffle Weave; works great for me but I have heard good things about the Wooly Mammoth.
 
Dumb question for those who use a spray product as a drying aid: Where do you spray it? On the towel? On the panels of the vehicle?
 
Desertnate said:
Dumb question for those who use a spray product as a drying aid: Where do you spray it? On the towel? On the panels of the vehicle?
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Both. An initial spray or so on the towel (if it's dry) and then a spray or two on the panel depending on how large it is.
 
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