So this followed me home....

Desertnate said:
That is a strange history. This is for a new car, right? I assume so with the mileage. You made a good choice in walking away. Since they don't have a sunroof, it almost sounds like it got soaked due to the windows being down in a really bad storm. Or a critter got in the car and tore things up. No wonder they wanted it gone.

Honestly I think you would be very happy with a Limited like mine. I don't know if you'd really notice a significant difference from the suspension since I believe it's only the front shocks that are updated in the Ts and the springs stay the same on all four corners as do the sway bars. For street usage, the standard stock brakes are more than adequate and do just fine.
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Heard back on the somewhat odd journey:

I wanted to address the CarFax reporting. This vehicle hasn't actually been on our lot long at all. It was specially built for the Cleveland Autoshow and spent most of it's time with Subaru. It was not a demo vehicle, however Subaru offers to replace any imperfections we see on the vehicles free of charge after the show. We always replace the carpets, floor mats, or any upholstery where someone might have sat!
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Explains it I guess…but not enough to rekindle my interest in this particular car.

One of the things I liked about BRZ was comfort of seats; would be far more comfortable on longer road trips than our current ‘road car’, the ‘19 Corvette.

Wish Subie did what Toyota does with GR86; make the Brembos a stand alone option on any trim. Do I need them…of course not but they look cool, especially the red calipers Toyota does.

Off to local Porsche dealer to see what they’d buy Cayman outright for. Have one offer of $47.5k but that’s up in Cleveland. Could probably sell privately around $50k but the hassle just ain’t worth my time these days.

The journey is likely to end in BRZ, just might take a bit to find the right one!

Thanks again for all of your input/thoughts…very helpful!
 
Any time! If you have any other questions or thoughts about the car, please don't hesitate to ask.

I'm not buying the story about the car being a car show demo. Either they go really overboard or something terrible happened to the car.

My car too was a demo model: for the St. Louis Auto Show in Dec 21/Jan 22. I saw the car about a week prior and put a deposit down on it before the show. At that time, the car belonged to Subaru USA and since it was headed to the show, the dealership was not allowed to do test drives or sell it. To prep it for the show the floor mats, infotainment knobs, and the shift knob were removed and then replaced them when the car was returned. They detailed the interior and it was pristine when I bought it. It took about three weeks to buy the car after the show, but that was because they had to get the title transferred from Subaru USA, not because they had to replace the entire interior!
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
Heard back on the somewhat odd journey:



Explains it I guess…but not enough to rekindle my interest in this particular car.

One of the things I liked about BRZ was comfort of seats; would be far more comfortable on longer road trips than our current ‘road car’, the ‘19 Corvette.

Wish Subie did what Toyota does with GR86; make the Brembos a stand alone option on any trim. Do I need them…of course not but they look cool, especially the red calipers Toyota does.

Off to local Porsche dealer to see what they’d buy Cayman outright for. Have one offer of $47.5k but that’s up in Cleveland. Could probably sell privately around $50k but the hassle just ain’t worth my time these days.

The journey is likely to end in BRZ, just might take a bit to find the right one!

Thanks again for all of your input/thoughts…very helpful!
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What’s your tax rate there? Don’t for get your tax credit.

In wa it’s 10+% so for $47,500 you’d have a tax credit of $4750-5k. So to private sale you’d have to get 52k just to break even on a private sale.


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Coatingsarecrack said:
What’s your tax rate there? Don’t for get your tax credit.

In wa it’s 10+% so for $47,500 you’d have a tax credit of $4750-5k. So to private sale you’d have to get 52k just to break even on a private sale.


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Yep…tax rate here is 8%.

Went to local Porsche center today and got a “Write you a check” offer of $46k for the Cayman. They have a Subie dealer in their compound so I’d also get a $46k trade allowance if I bought $40k BRZ there. Tax credit of $3200 negates tax so all that’s left is Doc Fee, registration, license & misc “Just because we can” fee(s) so maybe $41,000 all-in. After trade allowance they write me check for $5k and off I go.

‘Effective’ sale price of Cayman becomes tax credit + Trade Allowance so $49200?

Was never very good at math though so perhaps I’m not quite right 🤣

Will be interesting to see what they list it for, guessing $53k or so. No harm, no foul…they need to make $$ just like the rest of us.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
Yep…tax rate here is 8%.

Went to local Porsche center today and got a “Write you a check” offer of $46k for the Cayman. They have a Subie dealer in their compound so I’d also get a $46k trade allowance if I bought $40k BRZ there. Tax credit of $3200 negates tax so all that’s left is Doc Fee, registration, license & misc “Just because we can” fee(s) so maybe $41,000 all-in. After trade allowance they write me check for $5k and off I go.

‘Effective’ sale price of Cayman becomes tax credit + Trade Allowance so $49200?

Was never very good at math though so perhaps I’m not quite right

Will be interesting to see what they list it for, guessing $53k or so. No harm, no foul…they need to make $$ just like the rest of us.
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Did you buy it?


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What color are you getting? Limited?

Back when I bought mine in '22, ordering was pretty simple as long there was production capacity available at the factory. Toyota won't let you do that with the GR86. It's all based on dealer allocations and what they've already ordered. With my BRZ I actually watched my salesman attempt to submit the order back when I bought mine. It failed due to the number of orders exceeding production capacity. I don't think that will be an issue now. I ended up in the demo car because of the ordering being closed and they were reluctant to start working a deal for a car that wasn't theirs at the time.

Your logic on the taxes seems to check out, though I didn't do the math. When I bought my BRZ it was a similar situation. Since I traded my car in at the dealership where I was buying the car and the trade-in car had positive equity, the trade value and tax credit wiped out the sales tax and some of the rest was applied as a down payment to lower the loan on the car.
 
Desertnate said:
What color are you getting? Limited?

Back when I bought mine in '22, ordering was pretty simple as long there was production capacity available at the factory. Toyota won't let you do that with the GR86. It's all based on dealer allocations and what they've already ordered. With my BRZ I actually watched my salesman attempt to submit the order back when I bought mine. It failed due to the number of orders exceeding production capacity. I don't think that will be an issue now. I ended up in the demo car because of the ordering being closed and they were reluctant to start working a deal for a car that wasn't theirs at the time.

Your logic on the taxes seems to check out, though I didn't do the math. When I bought my BRZ it was a similar situation. Since I traded my car in at the dealership where I was buying the car and the trade-in car had positive equity, the trade value and tax credit wiped out the sales tax and some of the rest was applied as a down payment to lower the loan on the car.
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I’m thinking White Pearl if I end up being able to order. The WR Blue Pearl is really stunning but I’ve never had a white car before so that’d be different. Subie sales guy got in touch today so should know soon re: availability & timeline.

Not decided yet on Limited v tS but probably tS since I’m working with ‘house money’ in a sense. If it turns out I do get $5k back, it’s enough for a bit of PPF, light tint and a set of Winter tires/wheels.

Cayman is up in ‘protective custody’ for the time being. Will be driving Civic for now…which has non-functional A/C that I was planning to get fixed this Fall. Oops.
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