Software Experts? - ZOOM is Malware?

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Software Experts? - ZOOM is Malware?


So yesterday I downloaded ZOOM software so Yancy and I can do some form of online webinar. This morning, I scan a few of my favorite news sites and start finding articles that there are software problems with the ZOOM software.

I figure some of our members are probably pretty savvy in this area, so would anyone want to take it upon themselves to read some of the info I've shared below and give us their opinion?


Here's the first article....

A quick look at the confidentiality of ZOOM meetings


The above is a long but in-depth look at the ZOOM software, if you scroll down to bullet item #5 here's a summary,



5. Conclusion: Not Suited for Secrets

Zoom’s product is user-friendly and has rapidly grown its user base during the COVID-19 pandemic by “just working.” Zoom’s fast growing user base, combined with marketing language around encryption and security, have attracted many sensitive conversations. This sudden popularity likely puts the product in the crosshairs of government intelligence agencies and cyber criminals.



Questionable Crypto & Encryption Keys Sent to Beijing

Unfortunately for those hoping for privacy, the implementation of call security in Zoom may not match its exceptional usability. We determined that the Zoom app uses non-industry-standard cryptographic techniques with identifiable weaknesses. In addition, during multiple test calls in North America, we observed keys for encrypting and decrypting meetings transmitted to servers in Beijing, China.

An app with easily-identifiable limitations in cryptography, security issues, and offshore servers located in China which handle meeting keys presents a clear target to reasonably well-resourced nation state attackers, including the People’s Republic of China.

Our report comes amidst a number of other recent research findings and lawsuits identifying other potential security and privacy concerns with the Zoom app. In addition, advocacy groups have also pointed out that Zoom lacks a transparency report, a critical step towards addressing concerns arising when companies have access to sensitive user data. Zoom has just stated (April 2nd, 2020) that it will release such a report within 90 days.

As a result of these troubling security issues, we discourage the use of Zoom at this time for use cases that require strong privacy and confidentiality, including:

  1. Governments worried about espionage
  2. Businesses concerned about cybercrime and industrial espionage
  3. Healthcare providers handling sensitive patient information
  4. Activists, lawyers, and journalists working on sensitive topics


For those using Zoom to keep in touch with friends, hold social events, or organize courses or lectures that they might otherwise hold in a public or semi-public venue, our findings should not necessarily be concerning.

For those who have no choice but to use Zoom, including in contexts where secrets may be shared, we speculate that the browser plugin may have some marginally better security properties, as data transmission occurs over TLS.



Worst yet - according to



So while Yancy and I don't fall into any of the above 4 categories, I don't like the idea of having software on my [brand new] laptop sending Autogeek's info to anywhere.


Also - can't find it at this moment, but I read somewhere that it cannot be completely uninstalled.


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Re: Software Experts? - ZOOM is Malware

Thanks for this info Mike. Will be doing some research on this as well. Crazy/scary times with all this 'new fangled technology' nowadays.
 
Re: Software Experts? - ZOOM is Malware

Just did a Google search using these search terms,





If you scroll down a ways, past the normal "how to uninstall software" type articles, then you start to find this type of thing,


Why You Should Uninstall Zoom App Right Now?

How to delete Zoom - Tom's Guide


And after reading the guide on TomsGuide.com, I'm following his how-to steps and removing it.


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Re: Software Experts? - ZOOM is Malware

thank you for sharing, hope to see everyone soon
 
Re: Software Experts? - ZOOM is Malware

Just to update,


After researching, I found out that the software is not downloaded until you Join Meeting.

All I did so far was to create an account on the Zoom website like I was asked. So nothing on my laptop.

I did Terminate Account like shared on TomsGuide.com


Everyone can do their own research and decide what's best for them, but until the security issues and the information sharing issues are cleared up and the software is proven safe, I'm not using it.


:)
 
Re: Software Experts? - ZOOM is Malware

Tough to just say we won’t use it. The schools are teaching remotely via Zoom. The company I work for also uses that (in addition to Microsoft Teams) so it’s installed on personal and business computers :(
 
Re: Software Experts? - ZOOM is Malware

There was a story on the news here in NY recently that said they were terminating the online schooling using ZOOM because of "serious security issues".
 
If you need to find software experts to discuss such questions i can recommend you check:

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If you need to find software experts to discuss such questions i can recommend you check:

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I get all information about software from their experts.


Just going to say it like I see it but you now look like a Spammer.

Out of your 4 posts on this forum - 3 of the posts include links t outside websites.

What say you?

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If you need to find software experts to discuss such questions i can recommend you check:

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I get all information about software from their experts.


I'm not sure how you got by me, I'm pretty good at this. I re-ran your e-mail and IP address through Google and yep - you are a bonafide Spammer.

See ya!


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Just tried Zoom last night for a group event, wish I had read this earlier, the head picked that software resource.

Anyway in the corporate world two contenders are used: Skype and MS Teams. Teams is nice as you can use it on the web and not required to download the app. Both of these products I believe are owned by Microsoft these days. As to call quality, both are good. I use a Logitech headset with built in microphone on the left ear so it keeps the quality up for both input and output (connection by USB port).
 
This morning I went to Skynet and typed in,

ZOOM problems

And more, current articles come up sharing problems and concerns.

Cnet.com was one source I saw. Didn't take the time to >click< and read.


Like I mentioned previously in this thread, everyone can do as they will. Me? I just got this new laptop and I'm loving it.

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I'm not risking downloading something that supposedly installs little web servers in the operating system that then send info out to who knows where?


I shared this with the IDA this morning. I see that Malco products is inviting people to join a ZOOM webcast on interior detailing with Justin Labato. I'm sure the content will be good but for now, I'm not going to participate in anything ZOOM.

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Thanks for this everyone! I used it for the first time last week for a 'feel good' meeting the person that oversees my building put together. It is odd the organizer was allowed to use Zoom, as we are very vigilante on other software we use (a banking software company).

When a friend suggesting using it for a chat, I told them we preferred Facetime. I will forward these links to her.
 
Like I mentioned previously in this thread, everyone can do as they will. Me? I just got this new laptop and I'm loving it.

Love your set-up. Not sure I mentioned it in your home office thread or forgo to.

I'm working from home. Not an ideal set-up. Working off a company laptop (8 years old) on a small desk that is barely 2' feet wide or so. Attached a separate 24" monitor on a stand to lift it up a bit (cuz minimal desk size).

Anyway...my personal laptop died recently (was using it on a dinner tv tray) alongside my other ones. That one was from 2007. LOL yes, old.
Soooo, i'm waiting for my new one to arrive. Anxiously waiting. About time, if you ask me! I'll definitely NOT be adding Zoom to it. NOPE.
 
I work from home now, and we mostly use Skype for meetings. When all this crap hit, Zoom seemingly popped up all of a sudden because of the demand for such a product during the 'new normal'. I'm not shocked that it's chock full of security concerns.
 
From what I hear about Zoom one major problem is how you invite folks to your conference. It seems some people are just putting the link out in the open for anyone to join in. When you do this you get the “Zoom Bombers” who enjoy sending porn and extreme videos. There is a whole Reddit forum teaching a@@holes how to ruin Zoom meetings. You need to send out personal invites and tell others not to open share them.

I watched Jim Cramers interview with the CEO of Zoom. Since it is free now you get all kinds of animals spamming your video conferences. The software is not to blame (as long as you don’t mind using Chinese servers). Just like we get spammers here on Autogeek. Don’t blame the game, blame the player.
 
Zoom is basically an unfinished product, marketed to the masses. 20-years ago this would have been considered a "finished product"; but no more. Even implementing sound technologies half-arsed will destroy a brand or initiative for years to come. Same-old story, trying to make a quick-buck; who ever in their right mind goes public with their main product being video conferencing? The greedy. It boggles the mind.
 
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