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Being a waxaholic I've always been fascinated by paste waxes. Taking inspiration from dodo juice, rubbishboys, bouncers, and a few others I figured I'd take the plunge.
Note - I'd appreciate any and all positive input to help me better my wax, thank you :D


After a solid 12 hours of research I ordered up my initial supplies, heeding advise from those wiser I aimed to keep it simple initially.
Hit the ground running with my understanding of the basic essentials, I have a ton of products on order but this is basically what the first dozen of formulations have consisted of

I have had the DoDo Juice Home Brew kit for awhile now but haven't gotten around to brewing it, I figured there would never be a more perfect occasion to do so then to kick off my own home brewing with it.. Fun kit btw highly recommended!






Now for the production of Son1c's ProtoWax ..
ProtoWax 1 credit to dodo juice / dodofactory for this recipe
20g nuba
5g yellow beeswax
50ml coconut oil
Warming up the Coconut Oil so it turns into its liquid form, I'm assuming this is relatively how everyone does this?










Definitely a wax, but much too hard to be a good candidate for automotive wax production imo
Did not haze well / buff off well either, granted I used it on an non prepped wooden table..

Stay tuned..
 
It's interesting creating your own wax, being a consumer, you typically read the ingredients on the wax, for example beeswax, (obviously nuba will be in the mix), montan wax, candelilla wax, almond oil, etc, but actually working with them are totally different.

For example candelilla wax is incredibly hard, as well as carnauba, beeswax is pliable even more so when compared with these other two waxes..

Also the true Carnauba % in waxes, blows your mind when you're trying to develop a high content Carnauba wax and have it actually work! Very quickly can these turn to bricks.

When ProtoWax 1 was underway I was already concocting ProtoWax 2
15g nuba
5g white beeswax
15g candelilla wax
80 ml coconut oil



How much does a polar bear weigh? Enough to break the wax



Onto ProtoWax 3 while ProtoWax 2 cools..








ProtoWax 4
Dropped Wax contents down and bumped solvents up


Now we're getting somewhere! First ProtoWax I was happy with!

ProtoWax 5
Brewing..Brewing..Brewing..


Coconut based 30% wax contents
Too hard..

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ProtoWax 6 .. 50/50 wax solvent split coconut and turpentine solvents nuba+beeswax


 
That is awesome work. Good luck on making any new ones.
 
I figured this thread would pop up sooner than later! Keep it up, glad to be a test subject when you get it honed in a bit ;)
 
ProtoWax 7 ..

40% wax content 60% solvent content vast majority natural based


Too hard

ProtoWax 8 ..
While creating Son1c ProtoWax 8 the doorbell rang and UPS dropped this off..

Looks like I have a new solvent to play with ;)
So naturally I created a Linseed oil based wax, decided 100% on linseed for this solvent
20g nuba
5g yellow beeswax
5g candelilla wax
70 ml raw linseed oil



Definitely has potential, but needs fine tuning and I imagine another solvent or two


ProtoWax 9 - At this point I developed some decent confidence especially after playing around with ProtoWax 4
I have picked up several containers for candidates for the finished product of Son1c home brew, so I did a 250 ml / ~8 oz pour






Great texture on this one, reminded me of some other production waxes, but I need to play around with my solvents as I'm not satisfied and workability needs to be top notch


ProtoWax 10 Heavy on the beeswax




Not bad but not where I want it

ProtoWax 11 Linseed V2

~30% wax




:)

ProtoWax 12

20g nuba
10g white beeswax
20ml turpentine
20ml coconut oil
20ml linseed oil

Too hard
 
ProtoWax 13
Variation of 12



Still too hard

Trying to sleep last night I toss and turned what if I added this and that, reduced this and that lol, oddly addictive!

Have a few waxes on order, another solvent, silicone, almond oil, a couple other oils, several fragrances, and trying to find some dyes

While eating breakfast this morning I figured why not cook up that recipe I designed last night instead of getting the sleep I needed lol

ProtoWax 14 Progress...


This one has a higher wax content then ProtoWax 4, multiple solvent base, just based on looks and feel, 14 reminds me of an unrefined version of signature series II, turns to butter on the touch, a bit grainy for my taste atm though, haven't had the chance to test this on on anything as its also still drying being concocted ~2 hours ago


At this point I've basically depleted my coconut oil, my turpentine, beeswaxes are starting to take a hit, some field testing will be conducted today, ideally I'd like to test some beading and sheeting as well, will report back on that hopefully later today with results, pictures, and possibly some video!

For the record my waxes aren't a recipe in sequence, I have about 3 or 4 "strands" think DNA and I'm trying to evolve the strand, however the numbers correlate to production and not evolution

For fun.. Coconut Oil and another Container Test

 
af90 said:
That is awesome work. Good luck on making any new ones.
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Thank you sir :D
sn0w said:
I figured this thread would pop up sooner than later! Keep it up, glad to be a test subject when you get it honed in a bit ;)
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haha I finally had some time to turn dreams to reality!
Glad to have you :D
Maybe we could get a running sample list if there are others interested? (Granted the wax is not sample ready and a time frame is unknown)
 
Fun eh! We actually made the executive decision not to both with hard wax manufacture because so many people are at it themselves, the money in it is all with the resellers and those with the brand.

I recently had a guy buy some of our polymer blend which he wanted to use in his wax so that might be another something to add to your playing. It really can change the character of the wax.
 
Mr Megane said:
Fun eh! We actually made the executive decision not to both with hard wax manufacture because so many people are at it themselves, the money in it is all with the resellers and those with the brand.

I recently had a guy buy some of our polymer blend which he wanted to use in his wax so that might be another something to add to your playing. It really can change the character of the wax.
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Is that similar to something like the polycharger that AG carries?

I've heard and read so many mixed things on polymers, and their performance..

I have some silicone on order which I imagine will act similar to these polymers

Lol it's definitely fun, time consuming, and gets expensive quickly!
 
Maybe we could get a running sample list if there are others interested? (Granted the wax is not sample ready and a time frame is unknown)
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23. Becciasm :)
 
Sample List - Note this is pending AutoGeek approval, I don't want to cross any boundaries, I have not spoken with them about this however Meghan approved this thread

~20 others who I talked with earlier in the production stage

21 - sn0w
22 - af90
23 - becciasm
24 - dlc95

From here on out just quote and edit this post / add your name and corresponding number to this sample list
 
Mr Megane said:
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I recently had a guy buy some of our polymer blend which he wanted to use in his wax so that might be another something to add to your playing. It really can change the character of the wax.
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SON1C said:
Implying you're interested in a sample once it reaches that stage? (just trying to clarify)

:D
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Yeah definitely I'll sample some and put up my thoughts on it.

Always good to learn how wax is effected by the mixture. Thanks for posting this.
 
Very cool thread. Thanks!

What do you guess is the cost of the raw materials in each batch?
 
Cool project. FYI on the coconut oil, yes it melts to liquid at or above room temps. Since you asked :-).

Store any residual in a cold dark place, and if it food grade, use it on your food, way healthier than other oils. :-)

Also, you can go to one of the DuPont sites and order gloss enhancing polymers to mix in, not sure which ones but I have seen them. (My lady makes, makeup as her hobby) I can ask her if she knows! She orders all sorts of stuff

Also I will test out your wax for you, would be fun helping anyone make a masterpiece, plus maybe when you go mass production we will get a first run pot for free hahaha.
 
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