Testing Out Chemical Guys Black Wax - 1964 BLACK Catalina

Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
Well after adding all that information now your questions and ideas make more sense. Soft paint is easy to correct but hard to maintain. I'm confident that the FG 400 would decimate anything you want/need to remove safely but only experimentation would tell you if SF 4500 will produce the finish you're looking for before Opti-coating.

I think for DD's that the SF 4000 might be a better choice. If you finish out with an Optimum polish then supposedly you would only have to wipe the paint with a water dampened microfiber towel and then you could apply the Opti-Coat II, thus no need for solvent or alcohol.


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So many options..... :laughing:

Actually SF4000 is on my wish list for a long time... I'm just waiting my m105/d300/m86/m205 to get depleted to buy more polishing liquids and I think you're totally right, it actually can be a much more adequate option to my idea, but SF4500 is what I have on hands right now....

I didn't knew about this other aspect from optimum polish... you sure got me wondering about them now.... this feature great for sure, when looking to opticoat a car... thank you for the info :dblthumb2:

But I'm so in love with the SF4500, that's it's hard to resist to get more and more from menzerna polishes and compounds.... really top notch stuff.

On the right hands Menzerna products makes wonders like you did with this Black Catalina, sweet job Mike! :applause:
 
DaC said:
I didn't knew about this other aspect from optimum polish... you sure got me wondering about them now.... this feature great for sure, when looking to opticoat a car... thank you for the info :dblthumb2:
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Heard it from Dr. Ghodoussi myself...




DaC said:
But I'm so in love with the SF4500
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It's a must have ultra fine polish for anyone wanting to do any kind of show car polishing. I'm taking some with me to Nebraska next week for the black paint job on the mystery car...


DaC said:
On the right hands Menzerna products makes wonders like you did with this Black Catalina, sweet job Mike! :applause:
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Thanks... the owner just picked it up but before he left I took one more video. Hang tight and I'll upload it...


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really like these videos you have been putting together for us.thanks
 
Here's the last of the after pictures and one more video...


Chemical Guys new BLACK Wax!
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Photography 101 - The low down front grill shot

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Ivan likes!

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Pontiac Catalina Ventura!

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Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
***Update***


Added the walk-around-video to the first post of the thread showing the after results...



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hey mike, great job as usual. i have a question about that stuff though. whats the difference between that and the turtlewax blackbox stuff? with the cap open, it looks exactly the same. do you think companies are starting to make stuff for black cars only now? thanks, and have a great holiday season.
 
fabiolas4 said:
hey mike, great job as usual. i have a question about that stuff though. whats the difference between that and the turtlewax blackbox stuff?
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I don't know? :dunno:


I've never used the TWBB stuff, never seen it either. The Chemical Guys Black Wax works really well though...

  • Spreads out easy
  • Wipes-off easy
  • Makes the paint really slick
  • Creates a deep, wet shine
  • Smells great!
I wasn't sure I was going to like it because I tend not to like waxes with a pudding-like consistency, but I really like tis wax.

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twbb looks EXACTLY what is in that jar except when you apply the cleaner and the wax itself (both look pudding like) you remove it with black detailer. its very messy but looks good and only $30 for the kit and comes with everything needed. im just shocked at the price of that little jar.
 
fabiolas4 said:
twbb looks EXACTLY what is in that jar except when you apply the cleaner and the wax itself (both look pudding like) you remove it with black detailer. its very messy but looks good and only $30 for the kit and comes with everything needed. im just shocked at the price of that little jar.
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I'll take a guess that these products are nothing alike.

The CG BW is a finishing wax, that is it should only be put onto paint in excellent condition. That is either a brand new car with paint in excellent condition or an older car that has been previously cleaned and polished till the paint is like brand new condition.

My how to article here goes into depth on the difference between a finishing wax and a cleaner/wax and it also explains that most of the products sold at your local auto parts stores are one-step cleaner/waxes even if they don't say that anywhere on the label because the HAVE to be.

Here's the article,



The Difference Between a Cleaner/Wax and a Finishing Wax
Subtitle: How To Choose The Right Wax or Paint Sealant for your Detailing Project



But remember my saying...


"Find something you like and use it often"



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well put mike! and thanks for the link, it's very insightful! have a great holiday season. :-)
 
Not only have I enjoyed this extensive thread due to your hard work, it also took me down memory lane. My first car was a black '62 Bonneville Ragtop....top was white, also 389 but a single carb.
Thanks Mike.
 
RTexasF said:
Not only have I enjoyed this extensive thread due to your hard work, it also took me down memory lane. My first car was a black '62 Bonneville Ragtop....top was white, also 389 but a single carb.

Thanks Mike.
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Thanks Rick,

I didn't track how many hours I had into just the paint polishing on this car but my guess is around 12 hours over 3-4 days. Basically went out into the AG Garage and did a little buffing in the morning and a little on week nights.

Big beautiful car with emphasis on big...


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Amazing work Mike, I was actually looking in to this product for an up coming detail in a couple of months.

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I love the in depth descriptions and videos provided here on this awesome site. Just curious on thoughts how this wax would work on single stage black paint. Nineteen year old paint, stored inside, no swirl or oxidation issues. Thanks for any input.
 
sixtnine said:
I love the in depth descriptions and videos provided here on this awesome site.
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Glad you like them. It takes time to not only "take the pictures" but to do all thing things necessary to insert them into a thread and add text, even just going through ALL the pictures and picking out the pictures that are in focus and tell a story takes some time. Then you rename the files, then resize them, then upload them, then insert them and add the words that complete the picture.

This I think is one of the things that helps others to follow the same steps and get the same type of results.



sixtnine said:
Just curious on thoughts how this wax would work on single stage black paint.

Nineteen year old paint, stored inside, no swirl or oxidation issues. Thanks for any input.
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I think it will work great as most "premium" quality waxes will work great.

The real secret to how any wax performs is how the surface is first prepared to accept the wax. Read through my article here and it will walk you through the steps of things to do before using a "finishing wax", which is what the wax I used on this car is. It's not a "cleaner/wax", its a non-cleaning finishing wax and to use it the right way the paint needs to be in EXCELLENT CONDITION or it's not going to work very well.

Note the title states the article is about how to detail a brand new car but the things I show and share apply to working on any car. I titled it this way because we have so many new members joining with new cars so the title was written to target them. The same things I show should be applied no matter what car you're about to work on.


How To Detail Your Brand New Car by Mike Phillips



By the way, what are you working on that is 19 years old and has single stage paint?


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