The FLEX BEAST, Supa BEAST & CBEAST - 8mm Gear-Driven Orbital Polishers

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The FLEX BEAST, Supa BEAST & CBEAST - 8mm Gear-Driven Orbital Polishers


Currently there are 3 versions of the FLEX BEAST available.


From left to right,

The Supa BEAST, the BEAST and the CBEAST

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FLEX XC 3401 VRG

  • 480 RPM and 9,600 OPM.
  • Comes from the factory with a 6" Backing Plate.

The FLEX XC 3401 VRG is the original corded BEAST. The word BEAST is spelled with all capital letters. This is an 8mm gear-driven fixed orbit - orbital polisher. It's easily identified by the visible aluminum shroud at the head of the polisher.



FLEX XCE 10-8 125

  • 430 RPM and 8,600 OPM
  • Comes from the factory with a 5" backing plate.

This is the newest evolution of the original corded BEAST. I call it the Supa BEAST. The word Supa is short for super and only the first letter in the word Supa is capitalized and the word BEAST is all capital letters. Like the original BEAST, this is a 8mm gear-driven fixed orbit - orbital polisher. I personally use and recommend swapping out the factory 5" backing plate and installing the optional 6" backing plate. This enables you to use larger buffing pads and thus take full advantage of the power this tool offers with a larger footprint.



FLEX XCE 8-125 18.0

  • 380 RPM and 7,600 OPM
  • Comes from the factory with a 5" backing plate.

This is the CORDLESS BEAST aka the CBEAST . The word CBEAST is spelled with all capital letters and the letter C before the word BEAST simply stands for cordless. Like the original BEAST, this is a 8mm gear-driven fixed orbit - orbital polisher using Lithium-Ion re-chargeable batteries.



The original FLEX XC 3401 VRG 8mm gear-driven orbital polisher.


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The FLEX Supa BEAST

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The FLEX CBEAST

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Body Design Changes

They are all roughly the same size and weight. In these pictures you can easily see the exposed aluminum head on the original 3401. The new design of the Supa BEAST and the CBEAST incorporate the handle into the head of the tool with a rubber overmold. With the original design, if the tool is dropped, it's possible for the handle to break. By removing the handle, breakage is now a non-issue.

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Brushless Motor Technology
The newer Supa BEAST And CBEAST use FLEX brushless electric motors so there's never any brushes to wear out or replace. If you have the original BEAST an need to replace the brushes, here's a how-to video that shows you how to do it yourself.




Backing Plate Swap - Maximizing the ability of the Supa BEAST

After using all three of these tool extensively, my own personal preference is to invest in the larger 6" backing plate for the corded Supa BEAST. Being a corded model it has TONS of power and turning and churning larger pads is no problem. So, might as well take advantage of the power and of course, ZERO PAD STALLING and use larger pads that enable you to tackler more real-estate to get any detail job done faster.


Here's the link to the larger, optional 6" backing plate.

FLEX XFE 7-15 6 inch Backing Plate

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My take on the three different BEAST options?

I get asked about these three different variations all the time. Here's my take,


The BEAST
If I REALLY want to bust-out a job and plow through it as fast as humanly possible I use the BEAST. The extra RPM and OPM are just a tick more than the Supa BEAST - BUT - if I'm in a hurry - I'll take full advantage of the extra speed and power.



The Supa BEAST
If not trying to hit Warp Speed - I grab the Supa Beast. It's much more enjoyable to use. It's an amazing tool. I would even say it's a freaking amazing tool. Compared to the original BEAST, it offers these 4 benefits.

  1. Smoother
  2. Quieter
  3. Lighter
  4. Cooler



The CBEAST
If I have an easy job, that means the car has only light swirls, scratches and these defects are shallow then I'll use the CBEAST. This also means I've done a TEST SPOT and found the paint corrects easy meaning the paint hardness is in the medium to soft range but definitely not what I would consider hard paint, then the pleasure of not hassling with a power cord cannot be understated. I love the freedom of no cord. Alas - most of the cars I detail are severely neglected with lots of swirls, scratches, water spots and oxidation so I don't use the CBEAST as often as I wish I could.


Tool choice for me is about the condition of the paint and the speed in which I want to plow through the job.



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As I type it's Friday, October 16th, 2020. Next week on Thursday, October 22nd, Yancy and I will be shooting a LIVE Detailing Class at 3:00pm Eastern Time in which we will take an in-depth look at these three tools.





While this will be a LIVE Detailing Class, the above video will be available on the Autogeek YouTube Channel. So this post is for the future.



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As I get time, I'll include buffing pad options for all three polishers here.

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GOOD. This saves me some time :)


These tools are great. The 3401 is still my fave....just got to get the other two Beasts added to my collection!

ahhhh some day.
 
The original BEAST has always been my go to tool. I wanted to know more about the difference between them. Very informative article. Thanks Mike!
 
^^Hey Frank, hope all is well buddy!

ALL great machines Mike, good job on showing the differences between them.
 
^^Hey Frank, hope all is well buddy!

All is well, thanks for asking! :props: It's been a while since I've had time to check out the forum.

Mike, I assume that production on the original BEAST will soon stop?
 
^^^If correct, what a shame! I may need to grab another one 'just to have'!


Paulie, all my machines were taken care of, thanks! GREAT customer service!!!
 
The FLEX BEAST, Supa BEAST & CBEAST - 8mm Gear-Driven Orbital Polishers

Googling and watching some YouTube videos on the 3401. After last weekend’s detail, I’d like to use a machine that doesn’t stall by simply polishing a vertical panel.

It could be my technique, but I tried various pressure, speed, angles, horizontal-vertical passes, even switched hands and the MaxShine 15mm (with washer mod) just stalls often. On horizontal surfaces, it’s very nice.
 
I upgraded to the Griots GG9 from the GG6 but it still stalls on complex curves. With that issue and the cord, I’ve decided I’m going to order a CBeast.
 
Re: The FLEX BEAST, Supa BEAST & CBEAST - 8mm Gear-Driven Orbital Polishers

Googling and watching some YouTube videos on the 3401. After last weekend’s detail, I’d like to use a machine that doesn’t stall by simply polishing a vertical panel.

It could be my technique, but I tried various pressure, speed, angles, horizontal-vertical passes, even switched hands and the MaxShine 15mm (with washer mod) just stalls often. On horizontal surfaces, it’s very nice.

Make the move to a forced orbiting/rotation unit and you won't look back. You can simply concentrate on the correction and no have to worry about the machine or technique, etc. Just lean-in hard and let the machine go.
 
The FLEX BEAST, Supa BEAST & CBEAST - 8mm Gear-Driven Orbital Polishers

The cordless unit opens up a lot of mobile opportunities.
But the corded versions offer up some serious correction capabilities.


 
This is on my watchlist while I wait for stuff to arrive. Not five minutes ago I ordered a Supa BEAST and a pixie along with some other things to compliment my existing BEAST.

I just took a huge gamble ordering $1700 worth of tools and supplies before we’ve officially agreed to start a real detail department at my dealership.


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This is on my watchlist while I wait for stuff to arrive.

It's on our YouTube channel now and also watchable from this thread. I liked this class, I hope I answered any confusion or questions about the three different versions with enough info to help others figure out which version is right for them.



Not five minutes ago I ordered a Supa BEAST and a pixie along with some other things to compliment my existing BEAST.

Thank you for your business. :xyxthumbs:




I just took a huge gamble ordering $1700 worth of tools and supplies before we’ve officially agreed to start a real detail department at my dealership.

Congratulations on taking this huge step. If there's anything I can do to help you start this detail department - just let me know.


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Cool video! I enjoy watching these with a bowl of popcorn!

I myself love the Beast and the CBeast. I couldn’t be without a forced rotation DA machine.

Soon will be adding the Supa Beast to my Flex family.


I’m glad you mentioned the backing plate is a wear item. A good way to tell is when edging, if the pad starts walking off the center of the backing plate. Then it’s time. You would also be surprised at the adhesion strength from a worn backing plate compared to a new one.

For anyone using these machines heavily, I highly suggest keeping a spare backing plate in stock.
 
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