Very sadly... Not many. I work for a major semiconductor manufacturer and every year we send more and more of our products over seas to be manufactured. We just can't compete with the lower wages/costs of living:dunno:. It's very sad and we need to do something about it very soon!
I worked for Hewlett-Packard for a number of years and the practice in the division I worked in was to bring up a new product, work out the bugs and dial-in the production process and then
ship the tooling and jobs overseas. Beside low wages, I'm going to guess some of the other countries don't have the EPA, Social Security, Workman's Compensation, etc., to add to their cost of production.
Where does the wider orbit of the 3401 come into play?
Generally speaking, the longer the stroke the more aggressive the action of the tool, or at least the more
potential aggressive action of the tool.
Buy the PC 7424XP. You have the rotary for correction, so use the PCXP for finishing. :xyxthumbs:
This is a tried and true combination. See the how the story ends in these two threads,
4 Part Process Still Has Swirls?
What am I doing wrong - Holograms after using the rotary buffer
But I thought the GG was definitely better than the PC. Ah, here we go again!
Define the word
better?
Here's the skinny...
Regardless of which DA Polisher you buy, in most cases if you're working on a swirled out clear coat finish, all other factors being equal, if you start at 8:00am on a Saturday morning, you'll finish about the same time if you're using any of the 2nd generation DA Polishers.
Here's why...
When using a DA Polisher to remove swirls, you
can't move the polisher quickly over the paint to get the job done faster, you must move the polisher slowly over the paint allowing the combination of pad type, product type, oscillating action together with pressure and
TIME to remove small particle of paint in a way that removes the defects but also leaves the clear paint looking clear.
The GG ROP does have the most power but if all 3 tool, the PC 7424, the Meguiar's G110v2 and the GG ROP all keep the pad rotating while removing the swirls than it will take the same amount of time to buff out an entire car.
Then again at least Griot wouldn't be getting the cash.
I just wish it was anyone else but Richard Griot I was buying it from.
I've met Richard Griot and was very impressed with him as a person and a car enthusiasts, he's the real deal. Everyone's entitled to their opinion about tools but on this forum we don't allow attacking or even dissing other people, companies or products here on AutogeekOnline.net
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Alright 07 Z0, after reading your thread in which you asked the same question I'm asking now, ie which has more power and is therefore (imo) the better machine, I finally found the answer I was looking for...after only 57 posts!
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...uch-more-powerful-pc-7424xp-6.html#post277893
So it does indeed look like the GG is better than the PC, only slightly but for roughly the same price the decision is easy.
The link above goes to a thread where I posted the below,
No, it still has a Free Rotating Spindle Assembly
Plus it's not just rotating, it's also oscillating, that's a lot different action than the rotary . Just for the record it doesn't have near as much power as a rotary, but if you hold the pad flat, it definitely rotates it under pressure at a pretty fast clip, fast enough that I don't stop it when applying excessive pressure and in the real world I don't apply excessive pressure when buffing out a car so the reality is it keeps the pad rotating and if you're cutting with it it keeps cutting. Isn't that what a rotary does?
By the way the G110v2 and the PC 7424XP do this also but the GG does do it with more power.
Again, all of the new generation dual action polishes are great tools for removing swirls and polishing paint to a high gloss. Not everyone wants or needs the most power.
And what I wrote is accurate.
Here's something else I wrote in the above thread,
On paper the Griot's Garage ROP has more power and out in the garage the Griot's Garage has more power from what I can tell and based upon my experience.
So if you want the polisher with the most power this would be your choice but all 3 of the 2nd generation polishers have enough power to keep pads rotating and that's what's important when removing swirls.
The Griot's Garage polisher is still the new kid on the block and time will tell if the reliability is there with the power. The warranty is great but from
behind the scenes, I've seen how
people act when a tool stops functioning and that's why I wrote as gingerly as I could that if you're the type of person that gets
upset when a tool malfunctions then maybe go with a tool that has a time-proven history of reliability.
I met Richard Griot at SEMA this year and he's the real deal as far as being a car guy goes and just as nice in person as you see him on TV or expect after reading any thing he's written on his website or in his catalog. I'm confident they've done their homework when it comes to launching a new tool and and if any problems do arise then they'll address them. Meguiar's ran into a few glitches when they first introduced their polisher and they tackled them head-on and refined their tool to be one of the top 3 tools in this category. You would expect on less from Meguiar's and you should expect no less from either Griot's Garage or Porter Cable. That's the nature of doing professional level business.
So everyone reading this needs to study and evaluate their different options when it comes to any electric polisher and then evaluate themselves and then make their decision.
Whichever tool a person buys one thing for sure, the staff here at Autogeek and myself will be here to support you with your detailing projects and see you through to success in your garage.
I like the Griot's Garage DA Polisher, I trust the Porter Cable 7424XP because this tool has passed the test of time.
I like both the Griot's Garage DA Polisher and the Meguiar's G110v2 but they still have to pass the test of time.
So read what I wrote above carefully and along with evaluating the tools, evaluate yourself.
