The Junkman: Guess the wax

Bunky said:
I would not even try to guess.

The camera cannot capture what the human eye can observe. Every image that comes out of a camera is processed so there is manipulation there.
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This is the real answer.
 
hernandez.art13 said:
Not sure about wax adding only protection and no additional shine, not saying yes and not saying no.

The video with Mike and the Red Corvette. They added PL then a carnauba wax enhance the wet look. Or give it the wet look don't remember.

I also know Larry From AMMO talks about topping. He calls it something else however. But same concept. (Maybe layering do not recall)

Different courses for different horses, I guess.

Junkman's video when he says "Bone dry was pretty amazing, first time I saw that concept being used" (don't even know what that concept is called) lol
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Then you see quotes like the following:

" Also when putting wax on wax you'll actually remove the first coat of wax and therefore have less wax on your car then if you would have left it alone. Topping is a waste of time and money."

How do you even qualify that? Where's the proof?
 
http://youtu.be/3xJH_MGgbLw

http://youtu.be/We_x09XCf6I

Having to choose protection or shine is completely unacceptable to me. I want both. So what I do is use my layering technique - Larry


I tried to quote him as best as possible, watch the video and you'll see.

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I also did say "not saying yes and not saying no"

Not sure if you were quoting me, if so ^there is some proof. If not then someone else can watch the videos and learn something new. Thank You

Art
 
hernandez.art13 said:
http://youtu.be/3xJH_MGgbLw

http://youtu.be/We_x09XCf6I

Having to choose protection or shine is completely unacceptable to me. I want both. So what I do is use my layering technique - Larry


I tried to quote him as best as possible, watch the video and you'll see.

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I also did say "not saying yes and not saying no"

Not sure if you were quoting me, if so ^there is some proof. If not then someone else can watch the videos and learn something new. Thank You

Art
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Nah, that wasn't you Art. You and I share a similar sentiment in our questioning. That was found elsewhere.

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Wax doesn't change the look? Can't say I agree - let's have a few pictures do the talking.

Here's a picture from a review that PhantomMagician did of Meguiar's Gold Class Quik wax over at Meguiar's Online:

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And here's one from a review that Al (Bunky) did of Mothers California Gold Synthetic Wax right here on AG:

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You can find others, in various tests and reviews done on different forums. You might not be able to tell one wax from another visually, but I don't see how you can say it doesn't change the look.
 
I would think that ANY product that leaves behind something (in this case wax or sealant) is going to change the look.

I don't know if any of you know who Scottwax is, but he's a professional detailer with a very high reputation who happens to post on another board I go to (and it isn't autop..). :) Anyways, he has said many times how ONR washes, if done frequently, will continually add more and more gloss to your paint's finish. I never used to wash my car enough with it to form an opinion until recently. Maybe it's all in my head, but now that I've been washing my car about twice a week with ONR, I really think it DOES look glossier (deeper) every time, ever so slightly. Maybe I'm nuts.


I'm curious to know if you put twice as many layers clear coat on a car, would it make the paint look "deeper?" Of course it would have to be a very high quality paint job, but I just wonder. On a smaller scale it would seem that this is what a wax does-- adds a super thin layer of clear film that makes paint look deeper.

IDK. It's hard for me to believe a wax doesn't add any shine. I detailed my buddy's car this past weekend. The paint was awful, but there was a very noticeable difference between when I was done washing it with ONR (two or three times to make sure I got EVERYTHING) and after OCW. Why is the difference that much greater on a swirled up car?
 
StuDLei said:
I'm curious to know if you put twice as many layers clear coat on a car, would it make the paint look "deeper?" Of course it would have to be a very high quality paint job, but I just wonder. On a smaller scale it would see that this is what a wax does-- adds a super thin layer of clear film that makes paint look deeper.

IDK.
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This is a good question I know extra layers are added for the mirror finish to sand off all the orange peel.

with less texture you get more of a uniform shine (because there is no orange peel) and a deeper wet look, opposed to seeing repainted cars with a ton of orange peel, that got a sloppy job of sanding or even no sanding. (hate that by the way) lol


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Art
 
umi000 said:
You can find others, in various tests and reviews done on different forums. You might not be able to tell one wax from another visually, but I don't see how you can say it doesn't change the look.
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I cannot tell one LSP from another but I notice differences: some products darken the paint, some seem to be more optically clear, some dull metallics, some have more gloss, etc. The paint itself is a factor - dark, metallics, etc.

I fixed the link in my image.

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If you spread anything on anything, it can alter the appearance. Optically is about reflected light (what we see) and different coatings can alter what is reflected. This is how protection products work like protectants.

The differences are best observed off angle and not with a camera 2 inches from the surface.
 
Bunky said:
I cannot tell one LSP from another but I notice differences: some products darken the paint, some seem to be more optically clear, some dull metallics, some have more gloss, etc. The paint itself is a factor - dark, metallics, etc.

I fixed the link in my image.

IMG_1009-L.jpg


If you spread anything on anything, it can alter the appearance. Optically is about reflected light (what we see) and different coatings can alter what is reflected. This is how protection products work like protectants.

The differences are best observed off angle and not with a camera 2 inches from the surface.
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Can you describe what's on each side of the 50/50 shot?
 
StuDLei said:
no wax, because he doesn't believe wax offers shine, just protection
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You were correct. No wax or sealant on the car

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSOinuGu7Pk]Answer to the Car Wax Question! - YouTube[/video]
 
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