The most over-rated products?

I love both products, but not as a stand alone combo, however this summer I'll test just the combo alone

I love black light for some applications, I find it especially useful on wheels for car shows, as its hard to get swirl free wheels etc, if I am not applying a fresh wax of layer after a wash, I'll always apply a layer of V7
I usually use V7 as my car show topping / touch up product
this review is a bit dated but a lot of good info was posted in this review
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...emical-guys-blacklight-v7-double-feature.html
 
SON1C said:
which degreaser is their heavy duty? is it the grime reaper? ( they ahve so many damn products / names lol )s
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It's called "heavy dirt degreaser" it is orange.
I sprayed in the wheel well of my hummer and it didn't work like they state. I sprayed grime reaper and it really surprised me on the strength. I diluted it and it still worked better than the HDG



Thanks for the ghost wax info !
 
Thanks for you for your quick reply. I going to add them to my order in the morning. I always enjoy your posts....Thanks Again Son1c :dblthumb2:
 
SON1C said:
dodo juice supernatural is definitely over rated, I didn't see much for looks, beading was normal, nothing spectacular, sheeting was good, nothing incredible, for the $130 price tag yeah right, worth 50-70 imo very disappointed with that one, and it won't be added to my dodo collection any time soon lol, if ever, I also hear reports of it "ghosting" nothing drives me crazier than waxes that do this
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From everything I've read, Supernatural is made to provide as clear an optical layer as possible, to let the shine of perfectly polished paint show through. It won't darken or change the look of your paint - so if you were expecting that out of the product, it will most likely disappoint.
 
SON1C said:
ghosting (iirc the right term for this ) is when you apply a wax ( supernatural ) etc etc follow directions for example let haze and buff off, you examine the car great success all of the excess wax has been removed and you have a freshly waxed vehicle....... and then later blotches appear that clearly look like hazed wax you completely missed buffing off

it can happen hours later, days later, even weeks later, and depending on the wax can be terribly hard to remove, I once applied petes too heavy and it ghosted for weeks, and the reappeared wax was like concrete, I had to clay it off..

so basically ghosting is after completely buffing off the freshly applied wax, it later (hours, days, even weeks) reappears like it was never buffed in places, this can also be triggered my moisture interaction as well .. so its kind of like a ghost, the wax is reappearing, and usually no one ever likes to see ghosts! lol

I'm not sure on the whole science behind it, but if a wax is ghosting I don't want it, imagine you completed a customers car and a day later wax reappears, an embarrassing situation where it looks as if you completely missed usually decent sized blatant spots
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It's more commonly referred to as carnauba sweating :) Usually happens with waxes having a high carnuaba content (I've read about it happening with Zymol Vintage too), too thick an application, and/or buffing off residue before the product is fully dried - this leaves ungassed solvents under the dried layer on top, which then leave a haze once they do gas off.
 
umi000 said:
From everything I've read, Supernatural is made to provide as clear an optical layer as possible, to let the shine of perfectly polished paint show through. It won't darken or change the look of your paint - so if you were expecting that out of the product, it will most likely disappoint.
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My observation is that it has a very clear look with a slightly warm glow, and adds just a little bit of depth. That's how it looks on my single stage beige urethane. It doesn't change the appearance as dramatically as a color charged wax or Souveran, for example.
 
Idk why I would pay 130 for an optical layer when XXX is twenty and will provide me that lol, at 130 a wax needs to bring something impressive to the table
 
SON1C said:
Idk why I would pay 130 for an optical layer when XXX is twenty and will provide me that lol, at 130 a wax needs to bring something impressive to the table
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I have never used XXX, so I don't know how they compare.
 
Agfan said:
Wolfs chemicals. Wp-2n and 1n are polishes they make. Weird names. Sv= swissvax cleaner fluids. They are actually polishes.
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Very surprised to hear that about swissvax cleaning fluids. I've only used the professional one though. As far as I'm concerned they need to switch the prices of the waxes with this fluid! Awesome!
 
I've always used Z2 Pro to get me through Michigan winters but decided to give the Duragloss 105/601 combo a try this season after reading how durable it is. I'll be switching back to Z2 very soon.
 
CM8 6MT said:
Zaino <-- Ridiculously over rated.
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To each his own I guess, I really liked it when I tried Z-5 pro w/ZFX & Z-CS about 2 years ago but since finding AG, I've found Black Fire and recently my favorite product line right now.....DuraGloss. IMO DG works just like Zaino but at half the price and you can even buy it at CarQuest!

I did notice a HUGE difference when using Z-5 pro on my 2010 Honda Fit sport in orange revolution, car just glowed and looked like it was plugged into an outlet!

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FishyX said:
I've always used Z2 Pro to get me through Michigan winters but decided to give the Duragloss 105/601 combo a try this season after reading how durable it is. I'll be switching back to Z2 very soon.
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I haven't used my 105 yet but can I suggest trying #111 w/601 before you go back to. Zaino? #101 has some cleaners, so maybe that first w/601 and then the #111 w/601.

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Agfan said:
Almost all Wolfgang and xmt products. Collinite 845. And for god sakes 205!!!!
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I am new here and shocked to read your opinion on C 845 as so far I have only read good things about it. People have even mentioned that it outlasts any Sealant/Wax or Hybrid.

Why do you think it is overrated?
 
I've never had any interest in collinite products and all I hear is mediocre looks from them and way too much durability for me lol

Why 205? I love 205, 105 is a love hate relationship
 
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