These are the twins!

The car was the W12. And I’ve worked on a couple special projects with both Rod Kraft and Jeff Brown and I can assure you they make and package the products in Indianapolis.
 
It’s a ParkZone RC Corsair. I have a basement full of different planes. Still a kid I guess. The Corsair I keep in the garage. It’s my go to plane for throwing in the back of the 4Runner.

Cool. I dabbled back in the day, never got as far as I wanted. Corsair was one of my favorite planes as a kid.
 
I'm not going to argue that the above GRIOT's products are working for YOU............
I'd be very interested to know who actually MFG's them??

Do you actually believe that GRIOT's produces these products??

I "THINK" that GRIOT's buy much of their Products (ready to use) in 55 Gal Drums and repackages
into pretty retail Bottles!!!!!

Ive invested too much $$ in Meg's 100,105 & 205 too just shove those bottles to the back of my shelf
and start over with HD, Jescar or GRIOT's

I will admit that I'm only an amateur and if this is a "professional" conversation I'll step aside.

It's almost never worth replacing what you are using unless the product you are using is very bad.

Improvements are incremental and going from a good product to a better one usually only gives a little advantage. In the case of 105, any modern compound will be better. Products now don't dust like crazy as 105 does. I have about half a gallon left and I am really tempted to replace it because I hate working with it. Even mixed 50/50 with D300 it still dusts like crazy. I only use it to fix scratches now.

When you run out of products, that is the best time to re-evaluate what to buy, and by that time, it is very likelly even better products will have come out.
 
Is the cut closer to UC?

If I remember correctly, Ultimate Compound has a cut rating of 8, and M110 has a cut rating of 12. Please correct me if my memory is failing me ;)

UC is more of a one step product than a true compound. It is a great product, but if you are looking for heavy correction, it's not really what it's designed to do.
 
If I remember correctly, Ultimate Compound has a cut rating of 8, and M110 has a cut rating of 12. Please correct me if my memory is failing me ;)

UC is more of a one step product than a true compound. It is a great product, but if you are looking for heavy correction, it's not really what it's designed to do.

I boeve the chart has it as a "10".

I've always had good luck with it, but like anything, if I can reduce my work time during the heavy lifting I will. I did an experiment with it removing 1000 grit marks with a PC and a green pad, but the photo album I made for it here is inaccessible for some reason...
 
Well JustJesus sent me a sample of perfecting cream and correcting cream. I had an experience where Perfecting Cream turned into little balls and flung everywhere. I wrote it off at that time.

I did promise Jesus that I would give it another try. I did so today on a passenger front door and it behaved much better this time and left a good finish. I have a couple tiny issues with it.

Number one is the strong chemical scent. It is not something I would want to smell for hours. That’s a headache waiting to happen.

Number two is that I found it to be a tad oily and needed a few extra towel passes and a prep wipe to remove the residual oils.

I haven’t used correction cream but I plan to at least test it out. It too has that chemical scent.

Some of us are more sensitive to smells and if Griots didn’t have that then I would own them.
 
As far as the Boss Creams, IMO the true experience is had with Correcting Cream and Fast Correcting Cream. The other 2 not so much. I like the scent of the Perfecting Cream, but I’ve never had it finish as good as M205 and it’s a bit longer to wipe off. I’m not a fan of the Finishing Sealant.
 
Well JustJesus sent me a sample of perfecting cream and correcting cream. I had an experience where Perfecting Cream turned into little balls and flung everywhere. I wrote it off at that time.

I did promise Jesus that I would give it another try. I did so today on a passenger front door and it behaved much better this time and left a good finish. I have a couple tiny issues with it.

Number one is the strong chemical scent. It is not something I would want to smell for hours. That’s a headache waiting to happen.

Number two is that I found it to be a tad oily and needed a few extra towel passes and a prep wipe to remove the residual oils.

I haven’t used correction cream but I plan to at least test it out. It too has that chemical scent.

Some of us are more sensitive to smells and if Griots didn’t have that then I would own them.

FG400 does that to me too, but I also like the way it smells too!
 
I did promise Jesus that I would give it another try. I did so today on a passenger front door and it behaved much better this time and left a good finish.

Thanks for giving it another go!

Number one is the strong chemical scent. It is not something I would want to smell for hours.

Some of us are more sensitive to smells and if Griots didn’t have that then I would own them.

I like the scent of the Perfecting Cream,

FG400 does that to me too, but I also like the way it smells too!

WOW. This really is a YMMV deal. I'm a fan of products that smell "good." I almost went into the garage last night to check again (when I first read these posts, at 10:30pm) but I was already getting ready for bed and didn't want to step out into the cold again!

I don't think the BOSS stuff is stinky. I did a 12 hour stint on a Porsche with Perfecting Cream and the smell of it didn't bother me.

And see? FG400 is the stinkiest product I've ever used. Not only did the stink linger around my nose for a few days, the stink lingered in the bathroom where I washed my pads for about a week!!!!! it's the main reason I stopped using it, regardless of how great it cut and finished.


...but I’ve never had [Perefecting] finish as good as M205 and it’s a bit longer to wipe off.

Number two is that I found it to be a tad oily and needed a few extra towel passes and a prep wipe to remove the residual oils.

Another YMMV. Most times I've used PC, I found that it was easier to wipe off. It's one of the main things that drew me to buy the BOSS Creams after trying out some samples.



<shrug> Not sure about these varying experiences. Especially with Guz, Eldo, and myself living in the same general area. Either way, there are SO MANY great products to choose from. Sometimes, you just got to see what YOU like, and use it!
 
Thanks for giving it another go!







WOW. This really is a YMMV deal. I'm a fan of products that smell "good." I almost went into the garage last night to check again (when I first read these posts, at 10:30pm) but I was already getting ready for bed and didn't want to step out into the cold again!

I don't think the BOSS stuff is stinky. I did a 12 hour stint on a Porsche with Perfecting Cream and the smell of it didn't bother me.

And see? FG400 is the stinkiest product I've ever used. Not only did the stink linger around my nose for a few days, the stink lingered in the bathroom where I washed my pads for about a week!!!!! it's the main reason I stopped using it, regardless of how great it cut and finished.






Another YMMV. Most times I've used PC, I found that it was easier to wipe off. It's one of the main things that drew me to buy the BOSS Creams after trying out some samples.



<shrug> Not sure about these varying experiences. Especially with Guz, Eldo, and myself living in the same general area. Either way, there are SO MANY great products to choose from. Sometimes, you just got to see what YOU like, and use it!

Yeah, the GF hates the way FG400 leaves the garage and bathroom smelling. But I also used to love the smell of gasoline when I was a kid too. However, I hate the smell of wet worms in the road during a rainstorm, eggs after they've gotten wet after drying, and persimmon.
 
Yeah, the GF hates the way FG400 leaves the garage and bathroom smelling. But I also used to love the smell of gasoline when I was a kid too. However, I hate the smell of wet worms in the road during a rainstorm, eggs after they've gotten wet after drying, and persimmon.

People invented deodorants and air fresheners for such cases
 
Anyone used Menz 300? I’ve got a bottle but 400 always works for me. Never really noticed the smell, but I make it a point not to sniff any detailing products. Iron-X is the only detailing product that I can’t not smell. I keep my gallon of Iron-X sealed in plastic and in a covered bucket.
 
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