To glaze or not to glaze

[Flash Gordon]

I might be wrong and would love to be corrected, but I recall a thread by about glazes and how they are more effective on single stage paint because the oils are are direct contact with the paint, where with a clear coated finish, it's harder for the oils to penetrate to the paint. I think Mike might be able to answer this one for me.

News to me. I look forward to Mikes response too

I disagree that glazes should nit be topped with a sealant or that you have to do a IPA wipe down after you apply a glaze. The glaze I use ....see my previous post....is the perfect cleaner/ bond enhancing product that actually enhances the bonding of a sealant with it. Absolutely no IPA wipe down before applying the sealant. My secret is matching the glaze to the sealant. My killer combo is Extreme EZ Creme glaze followed immediately by Blackfire Wet Diamond sealant. I haven't found to date a better one-two punch for that killer show car look.

:iagree: If you do an IPA wipedown, your going to loose your glaze

Well I'm going to pipe in here since it seems most people who have posted are glazers. I personally do not use glaze unless I really need to.

If I'm polishing out a car no matter the color I will ensure perfection (as much as possible) before I apply my sealant/wax of choice. I just feel that glazing is an extra step when you are polishing.

Now that being said glaze most definitely has it's place in the detailing world and I would def add it to your collection. I use glaze on occasion if I have a dark colored car and I'm only doing say a 1 step correction. Flaws will still show, so I'll hit it with some glaze before my sealant/wax.

I just don't like glazes because they don't last very long. I know people have said that a sealant will kind of lock in the glaze, but I personally don't think this is the case.

Again this is just my opinions. Since they seem to be different than the other posters here. I'd say give it a try you may find out you love the stuff.

I'm not a big glazer either SeaJay. In the last 5 years, I've bet I've used a glaze less then 5 times. Still a must have though IMO

 

[akimel]

I have used M07 (oil-based) and Danase Wet Glaze (acrylic-based) on my black S2K. The glaze does add gloss, but after I have topped it with my favorite wax, I honestly cannot say that the car looks any different than it would have if I had skipped the glaze. Maybe I just can't see what everyone else sees.

But I'll probably still keep glazing on occasion ... just because.

 

[jslym777]

to me the only characteristic of a glaze that may be useful is to hide swirls/blemishes if youre not doing a full correction

 

[Flash Gordon]

to me the only characteristic of a glaze that may be useful is to hide swirls/blemishes if youre not doing a full correction

Thats it in a nutshell ^

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[akimel]

With the two glazes I have used, M07 and Danase Wet Glaze, I have not seen much, if any, swirl-hiding ability. I guess it depends on the product.

 

[jslym777]

With the two glazes I have used, M07 and Danase Wet Glaze, I have not seen much, if any, swirl-hiding ability. I guess it depends on the product.

some glazes have fillers and some dont. the term GLAZE seems to be encroaching on other categories as some are strictly paint enhancers/cleaners, some claim to feed the paint with oils, some have fillers and some dont, some use polymers and acrylics, some now have durability and some dont (which is why i think they are encroaching on becoming a member of the sealant category like klasse). just know what youre looking for before you buy it and read the description.

 

[Jsuro]

Went searching the forums and found this article by Mike:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/28659-body-shop-safe-glaze-fresh-paint-7-show-car-glaze.html

Seems safe to say that glazes are really good for fresh paint "body shop safe" is the main thrust here - incredible gloss!!! But nowhere did I see a mention for finish maintenance. I might still get one of the glaze products just to have it at hand, as long as it has fillers because I guess I would only use it for a quick detail when I don't have the time to machine polish everything or if there are new swirls on a recently polished car and I don't want to take any more clear coat off for a while.

Unless.... I got me a classic Boss 302 that I've been eyeing that still has one stage paint . But then my wife would probably kill me so I would never get to enjoy it any way!

Best,

Jose

 

[Kaban]

What speed should I be applying a glaze with a Flex 3401? What arm speed should I be using (fast/medium/slow)?And how much pressure should I be applying to the machine at that speed?

 

[James K]

It depends on the glaze. If you are using one with cut you will use a different arm speed and pressure almost like you would use with a polish. If you are using one like EZ Creme then it will be fast arm and low pressure.

 

[Kaban]

I have a few bottle of 3M finishing glaze. I'll pull up the exact product number when I get a chance. Thanks for the help.

 

[ShineTimeDetail]

I have used Megs #7 Glaze and I liked it- Its not easy to use but the first Time I used it, it was on a 04 Red Cobra- I thought it turned out great(Just a clay and wax-I added the glaze just to try it) I bought a gallon of Chem guys Mirror wet glaze and it looks great until you but wax over it. Once wax is applied I see no difference. The only time I would use that glaze is if someone wants it or to add a shine in between waxes for say a car show or something. I do want to try the easy creme though.

 

[jaymz]

I disagree that glazes should nit be topped with a sealant or that you have to do a IPA wipe down after you apply a glaze. The glaze I use ....see my previous post....is the perfect cleaner/ bond enhancing product that actually enhances the bonding of a sealant with it. Absolutely no IPA wipe down before applying the sealant. My secret is matching the glaze to the sealant. My killer combo is Extreme EZ Creme glaze followed immediately by Blackfire Wet Diamond sealant. I haven't found to date a better one-two punch for that killer show car look.

I use the same combo (well, I use Danase Wet Glaze, which must be similar, but will have to find something else now that DWG is discontinued), and it's a killer combo! DWG really makes the paint look super wet and adds lots of POP to the finish. DWG is also the only thing I've seen that makes white and silver paint pop.

Jim