To glaze or not to glaze

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Over the last few months I have helped AG's bottom line a little bit by buying a lot of goodies to do all my cars on my own. They all look great! I have a Griot's DA with a lot of pads, lots of Menzerna's and Pinnacle stuff plus all other kinds of detailing goodies - I almost need a new cabinet in my garage! The question now is do I want to add a glaze to the mix and if so why and which one?

Best,

Jose
 
There are times when polishing isn't possible. So I say yes

Poorboys World Blackhole gets my vote :props:
 
I'm a believer in glazes. They are the unsung missing link between polishing and applying a sealant or wax. If you think your car can't possibly look any better after you spend hours polishing it to a show-car shine...you'd be wrong. Applying a quality glaze is the step that most people feel isn't worth their time. I disagree.

My favorite isn't sold by AG, so I might get in trouble, but this is a forum for information exchange...its called Extreme EZ Creme Glaze. Do a Google search. I have no words to describe this glaze, its that good.
 
I am a big fan of glazes. I use the one mentioned right above me, along with a new one from them. I am really wanting to try out the Poorboys line. Soon.

Anyway, I say yes, add a glaze.
 
and let's not forget a wax that was made to top PBBH

Natty's blue!

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I use Meg's #80 Speed Glaze and I don't know if I am using it in the right place, but I use it as my 2nd step after Ultimate Compound. It's kind of my alternate 105 / 205 combo since the cuts are similar (and I bought them when I didn't know about 105/205).
 
I might be wrong and would love to be corrected, but I recall a thread by about glazes and how they are more effective on single stage paint because the oils are are direct contact with the paint, where with a clear coated finish, it's harder for the oils to penetrate to the paint. I think Mike might be able to answer this one for me.
 
You also have to look at the product being called a glaze. Glaze can be a couple different things.
 
:xyxthumbs:I admit I'm a Glazer.lol I want my car to shine as much as possible,before applying my sealant,might be subtle but whats a extra step I already have an obsession.
 
I love glaze. I find that in a lot of cases, it's all people are looking for is a quick shine. I use the glaze as a one step all the time.

I also use it to finish off a full correction in SOME cases. Sometimes it's not necessary.

Also, like someone mentioned above...I find the oily texture to glazes to be very useful with single stage paint.

In fact, today I had an older RX-7 with heavy oxidized red paint. I went over it with 205 to remove the dead paint, and did a quick glaze polish just to touch it up. Then I laid my sealant (after an alcohol wipe down of course). Worked like a dream, and really gave the paint a pop it didn't have before.

Like I said, I like glaze! lol :dblthumb2:
 
IMO, if you have a black or dark colored car, you should try some glazes. i have a obsession with black sports cars and glazing them before wax. i use non abrasive glaze, 3M is my fav. i never tried a finishing glaze
 
Kristopher1129 said:
I love glaze. I find that in a lot of cases, it's all people are looking for is a quick shine. I use the glaze as a one step all the time.

I also use it to finish off a full correction in SOME cases. Sometimes it's not necessary.

Also, like someone mentioned above...I find the oily texture to glazes to be very useful with single stage paint.

In fact, today I had an older RX-7 with heavy oxidized red paint. I went over it with 205 to remove the dead paint, and did a quick glaze polish just to touch it up. Then I laid my sealant (after an alcohol wipe down of course). Worked like a dream, and really gave the paint a pop it didn't have before.

Like I said, I like glaze! lol :dblthumb2:
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Just so I'm clear as to what you are saying, you did an alcohol wipe after a glaze? wouldn't that take the glaze off?
 
i think if youre doing a sealant... a glaze would obstruct the bond between the clearcoat and sealant because it contains oils. to me, a glaze is only necessary on waxed cars where you want to hide some swirls/scratches without doing a full correction process. So yes to glaze before wax, no to glaze before sealant. Unless you want to use something like Klasse, which has characteristics of a glaze and sealant.
 
I disagree that glazes should nit be topped with a sealant or that you have to do a IPA wipe down after you apply a glaze. The glaze I use ....see my previous post....is the perfect cleaner/ bond enhancing product that actually enhances the bonding of a sealant with it. Absolutely no IPA wipe down before applying the sealant. My secret is matching the glaze to the sealant. My killer combo is Extreme EZ Creme glaze followed immediately by Blackfire Wet Diamond sealant. I haven't found to date a better one-two punch for that killer show car look.
 
ziggo99 said:
I might be wrong and would love to be corrected, but I recall a thread by about glazes and how they are more effective on single stage paint because the oils are are direct contact with the paint, where with a clear coated finish, it's harder for the oils to penetrate to the paint. I think Mike might be able to answer this one for me.
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This was my original line of thinking - that a properly polished clear coat would not benefit that much from the glaze's oils and that this is a product geared to one stage paints. I have no clue as to whether glazes can make the clear coat look better because of the oils. That's why I asked :). Then again Menzerna makes a glaze and theirs are mainly OEM clear coat products.... It's confusing too because some glazes have fillers and I could see the value of that kind of product if you don't have the time to polish, even if they are not as effective on clear coats?

Best,

Jose
 
silverfox said:
I disagree that glazes should nit be topped with a sealant or that you have to do a IPA wipe down after you apply a glaze. The glaze I use ....see my previous post....is the perfect cleaner/ bond enhancing product that actually enhances the bonding of a sealant with it. Absolutely no IPA wipe down before applying the sealant. My secret is matching the glaze to the sealant. My killer combo is Extreme EZ Creme glaze followed immediately by Blackfire Wet Diamond sealant. I haven't found to date a better one-two punch for that killer show car look.
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i suppose it depends on the glaze, it seems like some glazes are basically like paint polish enhancers, and some are like an oil feed with fillers, and some are acrylic. i did however state above that an acrylic type glaze could be used and thats why you can top your EZ Creme with no problems so i dont know why you disagreed with me ;) this is kind of a gray area for me though between what a glaze and sealant is because even the EZ Creme has durability and when i think of a glaze i dont think of protection/durability at all and this relates to the oil based products.
 
Well I'm going to pipe in here since it seems most people who have posted are glazers. I personally do not use glaze unless I really need to.

If I'm polishing out a car no matter the color I will ensure perfection (as much as possible) before I apply my sealant/wax of choice. I just feel that glazing is an extra step when you are polishing.

Now that being said glaze most definitely has it's place in the detailing world and I would def add it to your collection. I use glaze on occasion if I have a dark colored car and I'm only doing say a 1 step correction. Flaws will still show, so I'll hit it with some glaze before my sealant/wax.

I just don't like glazes because they don't last very long. I know people have said that a sealant will kind of lock in the glaze, but I personally don't think this is the case.

Again this is just my opinions. Since they seem to be different than the other posters here. I'd say give it a try you may find out you love the stuff.
 
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