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Two NEW Meguiars Products! - Rinseless Wash & Wheel Cleaner
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I agree this conflict between two different 'Branded' non-acid products
creates quite a conundrum Mark...
You're correct about Autoglym CWC's alkalinity:
It weighs in at a whopping ph13.
Bob
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Thanks for the clarification on CWC, Bob.I agree this conflict between two different 'Branded' non-acid products
creates quite a conundrum Mark...
You're correct about Autoglym CWC's alkalinity:
It weighs in at a whopping ph13.
Bob
rops:How can two products with the same alkalinity, not equal each other as far as safety on the same surfaces? Any ideas?
ihaveacamaro
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alkalinity is only one half the battle. It's also active ingredients.
Consider for a moment Orange Juice and Meguiar's Wheel Brightener.
OJ pH = 3.5
Wheel Brighterner pH = 5.5
I have no problems letting OJ get on my skin or drinking it, but I certainly wouldn't want to be in contact with wheel brightener and it goes without saying you shouldn't drink it.
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FUNX650
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Good question Mark!!Thanks for the clarification on CWC, Bob.
How can two products with the same alkalinity, not equal each other as far as safety on the same surfaces? Any ideas?
It is important to note that pH is not an indication of the concentration of a solution.
(I believe that's the job of titration.)
But perhaps that's the determinate that sets Autoglym CWC apart from other wheel cleaners
that contain: potassium-hydroxide/sodium-hydroxide...
Perhaps not, though.
It appears that once you get beyond the usual product description jargon/ marketing-hype...
There is still this Autoglym CWC "warning" to contend with:
-Safe on most wheel types (my highlighting)
My "ideal" wheel/tire cleaner would have a detergency and a solvency components...
without any caustic soda/potash/lye...and a pH between 8.0 and 12.5
I just wish someone would post where it can be purchased.
Bob
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Are you saying you know of a wheel cleaner with these characteristics, just not sure where it can be bought?My "ideal" wheel/tire cleaner would have a detergency and a solvency components...
without any caustic soda/potash/lye...and a pH between 8.0 and 12.5
I just wish someone would post where it can be purchased.
Bob
As always, you came through like a CHAMP!!Good question Mark!!
It is important to note that pH is not an indication of the concentration of a solution.
(I believe that's the job of titration.)
But perhaps that's the determinate that sets Autoglym CWC apart from other wheel cleaners
that contain: potassium-hydroxide/sodium-hydroxide...
Perhaps not, though.
It appears that once you get beyond the usual product description jargon/ marketing-hype...
There is still this Autoglym CWC "warning" to contend with:
-Safe on most wheel types (my highlighting)
My "ideal" wheel/tire cleaner would have a detergency and a solvency components...
without any caustic soda/potash/lye...and a pH between 8.0 and 12.5
I just wish someone would post where it can be purchased.
Bob
I assume CWC contains soda, potash, or lye?
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Thanks guys, since I opened the pH can of worms in this thread, I wanted to communicate that pH of course isn't the whole story, but couldn't figure out as good a way as you two did.
I believe that can be purchased right here at Autogeek--it's called Optimum Power Clean.
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Are you saying you know of a wheel cleaner with these characteristics, just not sure where it can be bought?
I personally do not know of any.
Wait a minute!!...(Of Course. Thanks Setech!)
Caustic potash (Potassium hydroxide).
To Wit:
Bob
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It's all about that vitamin C!
Actually no, Vitamin D is way cooler. If there ever was a miracle vitamin, it would be Vitamin D.
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What about just mixing a car wash soap with some all purpose cleaner.
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I mix car wash shampoo and sometimes dawn at 4:1.
First I lightly hit the wheel with IronX and let dwell. I then spray with my soap mix and detail all the crevices, etc with a detail brush and inner barrels with the daytonna. . .purple suds galore! I follow that with a wool wash mitt and really foam everything up before rinsing off.
Works extremely well.
I got rid of all my meg's wheel brightener.
That new meg's wheel cleaner is a joke. 13.5 ph! Maybe it doesn't have quite the health hazards of wheel brightener, but I would be scared of spraying that on any expensive wheel.
It will almost definitely stain brake caliper paint and polished wheels.
Some of Meg's cleaning chemicals are in the dark ages. I don't like being nervous when I'm cleaning a $1,500 wheel.
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The new Meg's wheel and tire cleaner is the professional version of the OTC product. I am glad they finally came out with a gallon size because I got tired of buying out the stock at the local Walmart.
I love the OTC version and have used it on ALL my details with great results. I have used many different wheel cleaners and have settled on Meg's for my go to. It does an awesome job on both wheels and tires and I have never damaged a wheel with it. I only use it for heavily soiled wheels that regular soap and water cannot clean, but always use it on tires as it cleans better then APC.
As far as wheel brightener, I only use it on wheels that AWT can't handle. I wear PPE and never let it sit too long. Rinse, spray, agitate, rinse, and have never damaged a wheel or had an issue.
I already ordered my gallon of Meg's WTC and will continue to use it as my go to wheel and tire cleaner.
I love the OTC version and have used it on ALL my details with great results. I have used many different wheel cleaners and have settled on Meg's for my go to. It does an awesome job on both wheels and tires and I have never damaged a wheel with it. I only use it for heavily soiled wheels that regular soap and water cannot clean, but always use it on tires as it cleans better then APC.
As far as wheel brightener, I only use it on wheels that AWT can't handle. I wear PPE and never let it sit too long. Rinse, spray, agitate, rinse, and have never damaged a wheel or had an issue.
I already ordered my gallon of Meg's WTC and will continue to use it as my go to wheel and tire cleaner.
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I love Megs products and will for sure try the wash. Not so sure of the wheel cleaner after reading the posts in this thread.
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I'd be interested in which two products, you have in mind,
that meets the criteria I listed in Post#27. Thanks.
Bob
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The truth of the matter is that we should all be using the correct protection when working with "any" chemical as "any" could and do pose personal danger when not used properly.