Klasse Act
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Well, it's a public forum and if your trying to get an answer myself or someone else can help out here, I mean that's the point of a question...right
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Video: 10-month ceramic coating update! + Chemical torture test!
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Eldorado2k
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Well, it's a public forum and if your trying to get an answer myself or someone else can help out here, I mean that's the point of a question...right
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I was interested in getting his opinion. This has now been derailed into something totally weird... All I asked was a simple question.
If you're continuously topping a coating then you're not really getting any durability results from the coating, but from all those toppers on the coating. A 10 month or however long review of a coating without anything on top except for washing would be a proper way to test it's durability.
Seriously.
Klasse Act
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Ok, ok...Pan, put the bottle of Beadmaker down and answer these questions, inquiring minds would like to know
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Giss is/was applied to help out with this
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Ah thanks, I watched the video and was interruped all 3 times so missed this. Thank you!
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Now I take into account these are companies trying to sell me stuff but every detail site I go to recommends topping. PBMG, ESOTERIC, DI, also most coating manufacturers recommend it (also recognize the want to sell product) but if this what’s recommended buy the people who buy and sell it? Wouldn’t you want a durability test with its intended use? Do you not too your coatings?
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The Guz
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Thanks. Power Clean is pretty good in its own right.
Ease of application for both CQUK 3.0 and Gliss is easy enough for a first timer. Gliss has a minimum time of 4 hours after the last coat of CQUK 3.0. It can be applied down the line if the base layer coating has been on for months. It will just need a proper decon and also to remove any toppers that may have been used during that time. I would recommend to apply Gliss during the initial coating phase to make it easier on yourself.
It is a good coating. Unlike Pan, I have a dedicated area on my daily driver that sits outside 24/7 and the coating is doing great coming up to the 9 month mark. The areas topped with Gliss V1 seem to be holding up as well.
I have not had any water spotting issues with either of these coatings. I can say that about all the paint coatings I have used. The only product that caused water spotting is GTechniq C2V3.
CQUK 3.0 was reformulated to handle water spotting than the previous formula. Gliss is designed to handle the water spotting that may occur on CarPro coatings.
I would tend to agree with you to a degree. Which is why I left an area that is just CQUK 3.0 as a stand alone and just gets washed. At about 9 months in, it is doing very well. The areas with Gliss have also done well. I tried topping one small area with Reload to test it out and I did not like it. The self cleaning effect and water behavior of Gliss is much better.
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@The Guz... I agree with everything you said above. Well said.
I had CQuartz UK Edition on my previous BMW 435i Gran Coupe and it easily did the 2 year mark and was holding strong. I was only applying Reload to maintain it. Since I got my brand new BMW M550i, I applied two coats of CQUK 3.0 topped with one coat of Gliss v1.0 and performance is identical if not a bit better. Application was a bit easier (although CQUK was very easy to apply as well) and I agree that Gliss really helps with water spotting, not that was a major concern in my case, but some of my customers with hard water issues in their homes saw their issues almost disappear with the installation of Gliss. And since I started testing Gliss 2.0, it's better yet and slickness has also improved in my opinion.
Thanks for sharing!
I had CQuartz UK Edition on my previous BMW 435i Gran Coupe and it easily did the 2 year mark and was holding strong. I was only applying Reload to maintain it. Since I got my brand new BMW M550i, I applied two coats of CQUK 3.0 topped with one coat of Gliss v1.0 and performance is identical if not a bit better. Application was a bit easier (although CQUK was very easy to apply as well) and I agree that Gliss really helps with water spotting, not that was a major concern in my case, but some of my customers with hard water issues in their homes saw their issues almost disappear with the installation of Gliss. And since I started testing Gliss 2.0, it's better yet and slickness has also improved in my opinion.
Thanks for sharing!
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I will try and stay polite here, as I can feel the continued attacks on your part and quite frankly, I have had enough. I don't owe you anything, and I don't respond well to orders or challenges. And I don't have to prove anything. Especially not to you.
If you listened closely to my video, I said "PERHAPS" more importantly, sheeting. And this is coming from me, who actually prefers beading. Many people like sheeting because it causes less water lying on the surface, reducing chances of water spotting and also makes the drying process quicker as you have less standing water on the vehicle. Others prefer beading because it gives an obvious sign that there is some form of protection on the paintwork and let's be honest, most people love to see beads. I know I sure do.
But that's beyond the point. I don't care if someone likes beading or sheeting. I respect both camps, to each their own. The majority of products have both characteristics anyhow. A bit (or a lot) of beading combined with enough slickness to have great sheeting. What does it change in your world who prefers what? That I don't know.
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What attacks? Can you quote said “attacks”? I’d love to see what I’m accused of.
Just like the time you repeatedly said I referred to myself as “senior member” during your wild rant over nothing... When did I ever say anything of that sort? Never. Same way no ones “attacking” you.
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I don’t follow your youtube channel, but is there a possibility you’ve got me mistaken for someone else who’s giving you a hard time on there? If so I can assure you it isn’t me because if it was you’d recognize my name. It’s the only thing I can think of because there’s just no way someone can be so triggered after not even talking to someone for over a month. What’s your deal? Why so emotional over nothing?
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Here you go again. When will you ever stop? You didn't get your lesson from the Bead Maker thread... You tone and the way you write is enough to make anybody understand that you're simply looking to poke people and stir controversy where there is none.
You could have simply said "Hey thanks for actually answering the question I asked you" but nope, you have to continue being the Mr Negativity you're become famous for. I just don't know what it is about you... You're the only one that generates these reactions from people. Just look at some other comments... There's always crap when you start putting your nose where you're not welcome... Don't you even notice that? You're the ONLY ONE that generates and spreads negativity.
Nobody asked you to come on my threads and run your mouth. I just don't get it. You have some sort of childish fixation for wanting to pick on me... If you remember, I never went looking for you in ANY thread. You're the one that started pocking me in my own threads. I ignored you for a while, as I don't like trolls. In this thread, I tried to answer your question despite my own better judgment, and look where this has lead us. AGAIN.
When are you ever going to stop? What sick pleasure do you get out of continuously getting into confrontations with people? It's frightening. You have some sort of deeply rooted passive aggressiveness, or some form of mental illness that I urge you to seek help for. It's not healthy. How can you go through your days just wanting confrontation or picking on people just to cause reactions? And demanding challenges like a 5 year old..???
The fact that you can never be happy and just move on says a lot. A simple "thanks" could have been a way for you to prove that you're not out to cause tensions.
And now, for act 2 of the Eldorado2K response ladies and gentlemen...
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There you go, again with the nonsense about my channel. It's a good thing you don't follow my channel, I don't accept internet trolls there. And it's doing better than ever actually. Already close to a quarter million subscribers (that's 250,000 people who actually care) and 24 million views. And nobody has ever been as passive aggressive as you can be on that platform, despite YouTube being known for having many trolls and people who just live in negativity with their unhappy lives.
I'm a happy guy in life, and my 400 videos clearly demonstrate that. And for all of those who have met me in real life at car shows like SEMA, they know I'm genuinely passionate about detailing.
What bothers me about you is that you always swoop in looking or demanding responses and writing in a way that you try and make a mockery out of me or trying to belittle me, when you don't know me and you said yourself you don't follow my channel, so you have absolutely no clue the level of production and the quality of the content I bring to my audience who appreciates what I do. You might not like it, and that's ok. You don't have to act like an ass though.
And again, I can't wrap my head around the reason why you even bother putting your 2 cents in my threads, where you aren't welcome. And certainly not welcome by acting the way you do.
Have I ever swooped in to YOUR threads talking crap? No. Because I have more respect for people than that.
I don't think you understood my point. It's perfectly fine to top a coating with whatever, and suggested, but that's not was the topic was about. It was about the durability of the coating, not of the toppers. So, while it's good to top coatings, it defeats the purpose of reviewing the durability of a coating while doing also topping it with something.
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No I get you want to know durability of the coating by itself. I don’t think you quite understand. Pan never said this was a strict cquk3 durability test. This is his personal vehichle. Would you coat your personal vehichle then use as a test donkey. He never said he was not going to top. Just giving us a personal update on real world usage on his vehichle. I personally don’t care how long the coating lasts buy itself as I will top. 75-85% of most geeks who coat their car will top. This showing durability of coating how most people will use. In fact beadmaker probably adds less protection to coating than most sio2 toppers out their. If I buy a car for commuting I do not care of the gas mileage it gets at 120 miles an hour. That is not how I intend to use. To get the info you want I would check out the Guz or loaches post as I believe one of them is using CQUK3 without topping it.
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You fully understood the point of my video. So refreshing to read! You sir get my point. I don't like having to justify my videos, as I feel that's like a producer having to justify why a program was aired on TV... The viewer has the choice to either watch or not to watch. Can you imagine if the producer had to respond to every viewer demanding explanation after explanation? I would make TV programming unbearable to watch...
And you're right. My car is not a test mule just to satisfy some people's desire to see god knows what results. I take care of my car, and yes that includes applying toppers, as most people who have coatings (and who are enthusiasts or pros) would do. I already went to the extent of not having a topper for the past two months prior to the video and also doing a pre-wash with Optimum Power Clean before the video, and again Power Clean in the video, to remove any possible left over residue of a topper and I didn't even have to do that. Yet somehow, some still feel the need to criticize. It's impossible to please everyone watching. It's the nature of things.
But anyhow, thanks for expressing your opinion. Your were spot on!
Have a great day.
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Damn, I'm out of popcorn, time for some Totino pizza rolls
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This is what I'm going by. There's no mention of toppers here, only to evaluate the durability of a ceramic coating. The written introduction should explain what is in the video, so if it does not, it's misleading.
And no, I don't watch the videos.
Klasse Act
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Don't watch the videos, LOL
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