Washing Microfiber towels - what temp ?

But Bunky....is the moon made of cheese?

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Please carry on with the discussion on washing mf's...
 
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AmmoNYC: https://youtu.be/X9W-mMJicSM (start watching at about the 10:30 mark)
Junkman2000: https://youtu.be/Z78pih89kPs (start watching at the 5:00 mark)
SweetCarsGallery (just a random video): https://youtu.be/8R8JikIfrJ0 (start at the beginning, actually recommends cold water)
Forensic Detailing: https://youtu.be/YtFbJAjjcyk (starts talking about heat (washing and drying) at about the 6:00 minute mark)
Gary Dean: https://youtu.be/3TkyRngpNg8 (start watching at about the 4:00 minute mark_

You know, people can make all the videos they want, with all their own opinions, but they can't have their own facts.

I've stated the facts about the melting points of the materials in MF towels. It is also a fact that some clothing is made out of these same materials, yet no one ever seems to melt their clothes in the dryer. It's also a fact that the minerals in hard water can build up in fabrics if you wash them repeatedly, which could explain, for instance, Larry's observation that his towel felt different after multiple washings.

Just received my Griot's PFM towels and low and behold under care instructions, machine wash using hot water. Guess Richard Griot doesn't know what he's talking about.
 
Just received my Griot's PFM towels and low and behold under care instructions, machine wash using hot water. Guess Richard Griot doesn't know what he's talking about.

Richard Griot>Junkman. Lol.


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I've always washed mine in hot water and also dry on the regular temperature setting which is "hot" on my drier. Ten plus years of doing this and I have yet to have an issue with any of the large variety of towels that I use. I do wash new towels in groups by color the first time to prevent color bleeding. My oldest towels are going on eleven years old now and are still in excellent shape if that says anything. To be fair I only detail my personal vehicles, so it's not like I'm running a detailing shop where the towels would see much more use and shorter lifespans.
 
My $.2 (trying for 2 cents ) anyhow. I always washed in cold, but recently jumped to warm and will never go back. One day I may let go (after some bourbon ) and try washing in hot water, just imagine that wow. But I'll stick with drying on low even after some Jim beam.
Thanks Steve.
 
i wash in hot, i dont think that matters much unless you are using some powder like oxyclean, but i know for a fact these cloths need to be dried on low, period... maybe some microfibers you can get away with high heat drying but not with the plush jr microfiber towels. the gold grey and pink towels will get damaged drying them on high, ive done it, they change color and texture, i have them still to compare the difference, im a microfiber connoisseur. ive made the mistakes

the other thing i know is true is that, once in a while, an extra rinse with a cup of vinegar on an xtra large load def makes the towel softer and cleaner
 
You know, people can make all the videos they want, with all their own opinions, but they can't have their own facts.

I've stated the facts about the melting points of the materials in MF towels. It is also a fact that some clothing is made out of these same materials, yet no one ever seems to melt their clothes in the dryer. It's also a fact that the minerals in hard water can build up in fabrics if you wash them repeatedly, which could explain, for instance, Larry's observation that his towel felt different after multiple washings.

you're equating "not melting" with no damage at all... just because it doesn't melt down to nothing doesn't mean nothing is happening at all. people ruin thier clothes in the washing and drying machines all the time, i agree with you that you cant go buy what some "guru" on the internet says
 
this is true but that pfm towel is a lot different from say the gold plush towel

But that would mean some microfiber towels are more wash sensitive than others? Up until now I've always believed in "wash microfiber towels by themselves"
I've never heard of wash these kinds of microfiber towels this way, but not those kind of microfiber towels that same way...


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Why did you deem this "just a random video"? What is he not famous aka kewl enough to deserve any fanboyism?
The fact is they're all just some random vids. I don't see any of them showing any proof of microfiber towels coming out of any of their washers looking ruined! It's just opinion! And when it comes to the theory of microfiber towels being degraded by washing in hot water I couldn't care less what any of those dude's wash their towels in or recommend because they haven't proved a damn thing.

You seem very easily influenced by "famous" people.... I bet if someone handed you a cup of coffee in a plain cup you'd think it was garbage. But if it was in a Starbucks cup you'd swear it was delicious. Smh.



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this is the distinction, im not saying my towels came out "ruined" because i dried them on high. i still use them but they aren't as good as the ones i only dry on low. its a clearly noticeable, distinct difference. i can easily pick out the damaged towels in my collection
 
But that would mean some microfiber towels are more wash sensitive than others? Up until now I've always believed in "wash microfiber towels by themselves"
I've never heard of wash these kinds of microfiber towels this way, but not those kind of microfiber towels that same way...


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yes i def think some are more sensitive then others. its all microfiber and i do them all together but if you have the pfm towel you can clearly tell its different from the plush ones
 
this is the distinction, im not saying my towels came out "ruined" because i dried them on high. i still use them but they aren't as good as the ones i only dry on low. its a clearly noticeable, distinct difference. i can easily pick out the damaged towels in my collection

Just for the record: I mentioned washing on hot. I've never dried on anything but low heat, so that's a whole nother subject that I never even commented on.

I only dry on low heat.


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Like I said earlier, this is not the place to get into that, which is why I went ahead and let you go on about me supposedly hating science for a while... 1 thing's for sure though, I've never heard of any honest and true person or organization that faked so much and still deserved to be respected and thought of as truthful. They're lairs who've fleeced the American people out of billions of tax dollars for over a half century now.


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oh god, dont tell me you think the moon landing was fake???? i thought we were gonna be friends lol.....
 
Just for the record: I mentioned washing on hot. I've never dried on anything but low heat, so that's a whole nother subject that I never even commented on.

I only dry on low heat.


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no i know i was just putting my opinion out there not necessarily directed at you just trying to make my point. i know its all opinion anyway, i dry on extra low actually but only because i learned the hard way
 
oh god, dont tell me you think the moon landing was fake???? i thought we were gonna be friends lol.....

Please tell me you're not gullible enough to think they made it to the moon and back in that aluminum foil thin piece of crap 7 times without even breaking a sweat... Oh my bad, their spacesuits were "liquid cooled" Pfft.

Hey do you know that NASA astronauts don't test their space suits in the vacuum chamber? Prior to trusting it to protect them from certain death if it were to fail in the vacuum of space? The 1 time they did allow a human inside the vacuum chamber to test the suit he nearly died! Lmao. That happened decades ago, and they never allowed/were too scared to ever try that again! But at the same time those space suits never fail? That'd be like selling new cars without a human ever driving it before handing it over to the customer, and nothing ever going wrong with it.

And for all that fake footage inside the Space Station: How come there's zero video footage of any astronaut ever in the vacuum chamber before performing a space walk? You mean to tell me there's not a single camera in the vacuum chamber? Bunch of fakers...


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Please tell me you're not gullible enough to think they made it to the moon and back in that aluminum foil thin piece of crap 7 times without even breaking a sweat... Oh my bad, their spacesuits were "liquid cooled" Pfft.

Hey do you know that NASA astronauts don't test their space suits in the vacuum chamber? Prior to trusting it to protect them from certain death if it were to fail in the vacuum of space? The 1 time they did allow a human inside the vacuum chamber to test the suit he nearly died! Lmao. That happened decades ago, and they never allowed/were too scared to ever try that again! But at the same time those space suits never fail? That'd be like selling new cars without a human ever driving it before handing it over to the customer, and nothing ever going wrong with it.

And for all that fake footage inside the Space Station: How come there's zero video footage of any astronaut ever in the vacuum chamber before performing a space walk? You mean to tell me there's not a single camera in the vacuum chamber? Bunch of fakers...


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ok so if humans going in to space is "fake", that's what you are saying right? was the challenger space shuttle explosion faked too? was Christa McAuliffe a real person, or where her and the rest of the crew "crisis actors"? is the international space station a real thing? what about the holocaust, was that faked?

its a dangerous thing when the population can not distinguish between fantasy and reality. let me ask you this, and i'm not trying to belittle you its all about how we process information in this information age we live in.

are the statements below true or false?

1- the holocaust was faked

2- the movie "the matrix" was real
 
i wash in hot, i dont think that matters much unless you are using some powder like oxyclean, but i know for a fact these cloths need to be dried on low, period... maybe some microfibers you can get away with high heat drying but not with the plush jr microfiber towels. the gold grey and pink towels will get damaged drying them on high, ive done it, they change color and texture, i have them still to compare the difference, im a microfiber connoisseur. ive made the mistakes

the other thing i know is true is that, once in a while, an extra rinse with a cup of vinegar on an xtra large load def makes the towel softer and cleaner

I've never faded a towel in the dryer...in the washer, sure (which is not as hot as the dryer). If vinegar is making your towels softer, it's because the acid in the vinegar dissolves mineral deposits, which means that you have mineral deposits in your towels, which could account for a color and texture change.

you're equating "not melting" with no damage at all... just because it doesn't melt down to nothing doesn't mean nothing is happening at all. people ruin thier clothes in the washing and drying machines all the time, i agree with you that you cant go buy what some "guru" on the internet says

You know, just like you can have your own opinions, but you can't have your own facts, you also can't have your own engineering terms. You can't have one melting temperature for "some damage" and another for "melting down to nothing". Melting is melting, and sure, we could get into the specific heat of the fiber and the thermal mass of different parts of the towel and of course the parts with smaller thermal mass will get hot faster than parts with larger thermal mass and could melt before the others, but melting is melting.

And once again, polyester is a quite common clothing material, but I don't see PSA's on tv warning to not dry your shirt on high or it's going to melt, or change color or texture, nor have I ever experienced that.
 
1. Yes it was a lie. 6 million people did not die during those years in "gas chambers". Btw, did you know that in the current year of 2017 the most state of the art cremation oven can only handle 1 human body per 2-3 hrs? Yet you're led to believe they were cremating 3 bodies at once at a non stop, round the clock pace in open ovens in order to reach the absurd figure of 6 million? That's absolutely impossible.

Research it and you'll find out those "dead people" in the famous pictures died from Typhus, not a holocaust.

2. I've never watched The Matrix... Hollywood movies are of very little interest to me. Couldn't pay to sit through a movie like that. Lol.


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And for all that fake footage inside the Space Station: How come there's zero video footage of any astronaut ever in the vacuum chamber before performing a space walk? You mean to tell me there's not a single camera in the vacuum chamber? Bunch of fakers...

I don't know what a "vacuum chamber" is in this context, but actually it was common to see footage of astronauts in the airlock of the space shuttle preparing for space walks.

And here's a story about how they test space suits in vacuum: This is how NASA tests its spacesuits - CBS News

And a little more googling and a story about a different chamber where they test the suits: https://www.nasa.gov/centers/johnso...Facilities (Altitude Chambers) Fact Sheet.pdf
 
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