Waterless rinse less wash question

pheerix said:
Ok I take it back just tried Uber as Rinseless and waterless and I think I may also have to find a way to trade my D115 for more Uber. Its more economical, works just as well, maybe even more slick and doesn't leave a strong odor afterwards.
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You use D115 for Rinseless Wash?
 
No I use it as waterless. I used Uber as rinseless yesterday and did a quick WW with it today. Very impressed. Cant emphasize the smell factor enough. My wife can't stand the smell in the garage after a WW session with D115.
 
Eldorado2k said:
But I like the smell of D115._.
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I do too but again, wife hates it.

I remember in that video with Mike and a couple guys from Meguiars that they recommended the same dilution ratio for rinseless as waterless, that being 1:4. Very expensive for a rinseless wash.
 
pheerix said:
I do too but again, wife hates it.



I remember in that video with Mike and a couple guys from Meguiars that they recommended the same dilution ratio for rinseless as waterless, that being 1:4. Very expensive for a rinseless wash.
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I think Meguiars did themselves a huge disservice by ever recommending a dilution ratio for it as a rinseless. It's never been intended to be used as a rinseless, it says nothing about rinseless washing anywhere on the label. They put their foot in their mouths on that 1.

All its resulted in is people having a cheap reason to knock it. And to top it off, I l'd be willing to bet almost no well informed detailing enthusiast or professional even uses it as a rinseless.
 
Eldorado2k said:
I think Meguiars did themselves a huge disservice by ever recommending a dilution ratio for it as a rinseless. It's never been intended to be used as a rinseless, it says nothing about rinseless washing anywhere on the label. They put their foot in their mouths on that 1.

All its resulted in is people having a cheap reason to knock it. And to top it off, I l'd be willing to bet almost no well informed detailing enthusiast or professional even uses it as a rinseless.
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Really?!?! :rolleyes:


Bob
 
Don't tell me you've got a rinseless bucket of it in your garage...
 
Eldorado2k said:
Zero mention about using it as a rinseless wash. Not even a hint.

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That's why, IMO, it's a good idea to stay abreast
of the latest info that's provided on this, and other
detailing forums, by Manufacturers and forum Members.
Sometimes that info includes what's "on the label".
________________________________________________

Here are some updates to the dilution ratios
of D114 and D115 that you may have missed:


D115:


"But if you want to use D115 as a rinseless wash, not a waterless wash. OK, fine. Either way you choose you can still take that dilution ratio as far as 20:1 but you will lose some gloss and slickness, no doubt about it. And it's the gloss and slickness that really sets this product apart from the competition".


Michael Stoops
Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.
________________________________________

Re: Questions about D114 RFEW

"We recommend using D114 as a rinseless wash with a dilution ratio of 1 ounce to two gallons of water. 1:256

If you're going to use it as a waterless wash you should at least double that ratio (1 ounce per gallon. 1:128).

As a clay lube, the standard dilution ratio (1:256)
works quite well".


Michael Stoops
Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.
(800) 854-8073 xt 3875
[email protected]
_____________________________________________

"We should clarify something, however, regarding dilution ratios: recommended dilution ratio is 1 ounce of D114 to two gallons of water.

The instructions on the initial run of labels state a 1 ounce per gallon dilution ratio, but we are adjusting that down for routine use".

Michael Stoops
Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.
________________________________________


Bob
 
Yes I know, but remember I said that IMO they put their foot in their mouth by blurting out that 4:1 dilution ratio on a video that is widely viewed and by putting their official stamp on that comment, they left themselves open for alot of cheap and sometimes unwarranted negative criticism/reviews/opinions about the product, mostly from fanboys of other products who seem to get a kick of coming out of nowhere to announce how their fanboy rinseless product of choice is such a better value because it dilutes at 1:256 compared to the insanity of D115 which dilutes @20:1 at best.

You know those kind of cheap shots have been thrown all over the internet about D115. And it's all due to that little meaningless [meaningless IMO because it's not even really meant to be a rinseless wash to begin with]

It's like D115 is the poster boy for getting trolled. Because when it happens it's always the same stunt. They compare apples to oranges, they intentionally compare a rinseless to a waterless to feed their inner fanboy. It's ridiculous.
 
Eldorado2k said:
A bucket that looks like this. Rinseless wash. Here's my bucket of D114.


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I'll go as far to say that the above does not always
represent what I have seen, heard, or personally used...
that constitutes a "true" Rinseless-Wash.

Realistically:
There have been so many variations (hybrids), to
RWs/WWs, introduced in the last few years that it
would be, IMHO, a disservice to try and pigeon-hole
any one RW/WW process, as being: "the one and only"!


Bob
 
FUNX650 said:
I'll go as far to say that the above does not always

represent what I have seen, heard, or personally used...

that constitutes a "true" Rinseless-Wash.



Realistically:

There have been so many variations (hybrids), to

RWs/WWs, introduced in the last few years that it

would be, IMHO, a disservice to try and pigeon-hole

any one RW/WW process, as being: "the one and only"!





Bob
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I don't see how that can be called a pigeon hole attempt at all.

I believe that's about as textbook of an explanation for rinseless wash as it gets. There's nothing cheap or twisted about my short explanation and photo showing a clean bucket of rinseless wash solution.

Please tell me what was so wrong with it?
 
FUNX650 said:
Define exactly what products/tools/methods/etc.

truly constitutes the Rinseless-Wash process.





Bob
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"Truly constitutes"

To me that requests for me to represent it in its purest form, which I believe I did.

"Truly constitutes" doesn't mean please show me some zany hybrid some guy came up with that 1 time long ago... No it doesn't. Think about it...
 
FUNX650 said:
That's why, IMO, it's a good idea to stay abreast
of the latest info that's provided on this, and other
detailing forums, by Manufacturers and forum Members.
Sometimes that info includes what's "on the label".
________________________________________________

Here are some updates to the dilution ratios
of D114 and D115 that you may have missed:
________________________________________

Re: Questions about D114 RFEW

"We recommend using D114 as a rinseless wash with a dilution ratio of 1 ounce to two gallons of water. 1:256

If you're going to use it as a waterless wash you should at least double that ratio (1 ounce per gallon. 1:128).

As a clay lube, the standard dilution ratio (1:256)
works quite well".


Michael Stoops
Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.
(800) 854-8073 xt 3875
[email protected]
_____________________________________________

"We should clarify something, however, regarding dilution ratios: recommended dilution ratio is 1 ounce of D114 to two gallons of water.

The instructions on the initial run of labels state a 1 ounce per gallon dilution ratio, but we are adjusting that down for routine use".

Michael Stoops
Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.
________________________________________


Bob
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A little off topic but would it make much of a difference if I clayed with d114 at WW ratio (1:128) instead of the recommended 1:256?....I ask because I have a pre mixed gallon of distilled water with 1oz of d114 that I have been using as a pre soak for my rinseless washes....or am i over killing it with the pre soak mix at 1:128?
 
Eldorado2k said:
"Truly constitutes"

To me that requests for me to represent it in its purest form, which I believe I did.

"Truly constitutes" doesn't mean please show me some zany hybrid some guy came up with that 1 time long ago... No it doesn't. Think about it...
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•Where did you learn that what you posted is
truly representative of what constitutes a RW?
-Or is it just your opinion?


•Also:
-D115 is a rinse-free Wash & Wax product.

•So:
-Where did Meguiar's ever say that D115 was not
originally intended to be used as a "Rinseless"?

•IIRC:
-Meguiar's had to accommodate the
RW/WW "hybridizers"...by re-assessing
D115's dilution ratios.


{To be continued...:dunno:}


Bob
 
FUNX650 said:
A D115 RW is easily obtained:
Just add a couple of ounces of Meguiar's D115
Rinse-Free Express Wash & Wax to 5gals of water.


Bob
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Bob I thought I saw where Meguiars recommends D115 to be diluted at 4:1 which means you pour the whole gallon of D115 into 4 gallons of water for a Rinseless Wash.
 
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