Waterless rinse less wash question

[Eldorado2k]

Where did you learn that what you posted is

truly representative of what constitutes a RW?

-Or is it just your opinion?

Just my opinion? Lol nope. Try general opinion. You'd be hard pressed to pluck out an honest well informed person on this forum who would disagree with my short description and photo of a rinseless wash. Cmon man, why are we even debating this? Smh.


Also:

-D115 is a rinse-free Wash & Wax product.



•So:

-Where did Meguiar's ever say that D115 was not

originally intended to be used as a "Rinseless"?

That's such a cheap attempt that it doesn't even merit a response. Seriously cmon man. Lets just be friends

 

[Eldorado2k]

Bob I thought I saw where Meguiars recommends D115 to be diluted at 4:1 which means you pour the whole gallon of D115 into 4 gallons of water for a Rinseless Wash.

Now I'm not calling him 1 of the trolls but.... You see what I mean?

 

[Eldorado2k]

A little off topic but would it make much of a difference if I clayed with d114 at WW ratio (1:128) instead of the recommended 1:256?....I ask because I have a pre mixed gallon of distilled water with 1oz of d114 that I have been using as a pre soak for my rinseless washes....or am i over killing it with the pre soak mix at 1:128?

I'm the exact same way. I refuse to make a 2nd gallon of D114@1:256 simply for clay lube so I've always used it @1:128 for lube and as far as clay goes it works perfect, doesn't degrade or prevent it from working it at all. It works perfect.

As far as lube for clay towels? Well I'm on my 2nd towel. My 1st towel took a dump after only 6-7 uses which left me wondering if it was due to the D114 being too strong. My 2nd clay towel has been used about 5 times and I still don't know when it's gonna crap out but I sure don't trust it a whole lot. I guess time will tell.

But I refuse to make a separate gallon @ 1:256 for just clay lube. Stubborn wins. Lol

 

[FUNX650]

A little off topic but would it make much of a difference if I clayed with d114 at WW ratio (1:128) instead of the recommended 1:256?....I ask because I have a pre mixed gallon of distilled water with 1oz of d114 that I have been using as a pre soak for my rinseless washes....or am i over killing it with the pre soak mix at 1:128?

This is what I would do:

•First: Do a base-line "Baggie Test" on a "Test Spot"

•Next: Clay the "Test Spot" using D114 @1:128
-Pay close attention to excessive hydro-planing, if any

•Remove residue(s) from the Claying process

•Perform another "Baggie Test"
-If satisfactory: continue claying
-If unsatisfactory: amend D114's dilution ratio
to Meguiar's recommendation.


Bob

 

[SeanChav]

This is what I would do:

•First: Do a base-line "Baggie Test" on a "Test Spot"

•Next: Clay the "Test Spot" using D114 @1:128
-Pay close attention to excessive hydro-planing, if any

•Remove residue(s) from the Claying process

•Perform another "Baggie Test"
-If satisfactory: continue claying
-If unsatisfactory: amend D114's dilution ratio
to Meguiar's recommendation.


Bob

Good idea!!!....I'm gonna try that rops:

 

[Real Riders]

Originally Posted by Real Riders View Post
Bob I thought I saw where Meguiars recommends D115 to be diluted at 4:1 which means you pour the whole gallon of D115 into 4 gallons of water for a Rinseless Wash.

Now I'm not calling him 1 of the trolls but.... You see what I mean?

What do you mean by this post?

 

[Eldorado2k]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Riders View Post
Bob I thought I saw where Meguiars recommends D115 to be diluted at 4:1 which means you pour the whole gallon of D115 into 4 gallons of water for a Rinseless Wash.

Now I'm not calling him 1 of the trolls but.... You see what I mean?

What do you mean by this post?

I had mentioned that alot of information regarding D115 gets mixed up due to some people mentioning it as a rinseless product vs. waterless. When used as it was originally intended, the dilution ratios look great on paper [4:1 all the way up to 20:1]

However if and when it's brought up in a discussion as a rinseless option the dilution ratio of 4:1 for example, makes the product look totally overpriced and completely foolish to even consider buying.

And I had originally stated that IMO Meguiars made a mistake by making the statement in that Autogeek video about the dilution ratio if 1 were to want to use it as a rinseless instead of a waterless wash.

I believe there's alot of confusion regarding D115 because of that.

 

[Real Riders]

This is what Michael Stoops says about D115 as Rinseless about pouring the whole gallon of D115 into the 5 gallon bucket

Re: Mid-Year Introduction - D115 Rinse Free Express Wash & Wax
While not identical to UWWA, D115 is quite close. Our recommendation for use is to dilute 4:1 and use as a waterless wash, but it's also great to pour 4 gallons of water into a bucket, then essentially pour the entire gallon of D115 into that same bucket for 5 gallons of rinseless wash solution. Now, for the average guy taking care of a couple cars at home that may not be the best way to go, but for a mobile guy who doesn't want to carry around large volumes of water it's great. You can clean an awful lot of cars with 5 gallons of rinseless wash, as long as you're not putting a dirty towel back into the bucket. Think about the process that Garry Dean came up with, but instead of piling the towels into the bucket you just soak the towels as needed. Besides, a stack of towels would displace too much water and you couldn't fit them and 5 gallons of solution in the same 5 gallon bucket. With a gamma seal on the bucket you'd have enough wash water on hand for literally dozens of cars. From personal experience, using just a couple gallons of wash solution in a gamma sealed bucket at home, I've managed close to a dozen washes. If you're not dealing with seriously dirty cars, or you're in a high humidity environment, you could easily cut that dilution ratio to 8:1.

But whether you prefer a rinseless or waterless wash, D115 will do the job.
Michael Stoops
Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

 

[Eldorado2k]

Yes, I've read that before.^
I still believe they should have left the recommendations to waterless only. Similar to how they treat D114 when asked about using it as a waterless. Yea they've quietly made comments here and there about it, but it's not something they widely recommended.

Personally I think D114 is more ideal to use as a waterless than D115 is to use as a rinseless. But that's just me.

 

[Real Riders]

Yes, I've read that before.^
I still believe they should have left the recommendations to waterless only. Similar to how they treat D114 when asked about using it as a waterless. Yea they've quietly made comments here and there about it, but it's not something they widely recommended.

Personally I think D114 is more ideal to use as a waterless than D115 is to use as a rinseless. But that's just me.

There would be no reason to purchase D115 for a Rinseless Wash product when you can use D114 which works great and is very economical. D115 is one of the best waterless wash products on the market so it's best just to use the D115 as waterless wash

 

[Eldorado2k]

There would be no reason to purchase D115 for a Rinseless Wash product when you can use D114 which works great and is very economical. D115 is one of the best waterless wash products on the market so it's best just to use the D115 as waterless wash

I completely agree.