What can I top HD Speed with?

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Was all set to do a two step correction yesterday on my pearl white 2017 Subaru Forester XT. Unfortunately my wife was out and my 3 year old daughter had enough playing outside by the time I washed, clayed and iron-x'd so I needed to do something quick. Did one pass with HD Speed so I was protected. Car actually looks great...white tends to show minimal defects anyway. I find that the sealant in HD Speed doesn't last that long. What, if anything can I top it with? I have PNS which I think is a no-no over anything, and I also have Colinite 845, Prima Epic and Prima Banana Gloss. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.


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HD POXY would be ideal, but the others you have(with the exception of PNS) would be fine.
 
I think the main reason why the protection aspect of HD speed is short lived is because most people don't follow the directions. Totally not saying this is your case but it does say to move the machine very very slow.

I find most detailers blast through a car using speed well because time is money. But is the product really getting a good chance to lay down a sealant after the abrasives have desolved?

The thought process is well a two step takes too much time so let me rush through a car using speed and go as fast as possible. It's that last part the protection part that suffers imo.
 
idriveblackcars said:
I think the main reason why the protection aspect of HD speed is short lived is because most people don't follow the directions. Totally not saying this is your case but it does say to move the machine very very slow.

I find most detailers blast through a car using speed well because time is money. But is the product really getting a good chance to lay down a sealant after the abrasives have desolved?

The thought process is well a two step takes too much time so let me rushthrough a car using speed and go as fast as possible. It's that last part the protection part that suffers imo.
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I respectfully disagree. Speed uses non diminishing abrasives, so they never really dissolve or break down. Even if they did break down, the protection in SPEED doesn't suddenly appear after that has happened. It's being laid down the second you start polishing. Do you move the polisher very slowly when applying a pure wax? Nope. Same idea. You move the polisher slowly for removing defects. One could argue the protection of SPEED could be longer if it's left to sit a bit before wiping off.
 
WRAPT C5Z06 said:
I respectfully disagree. Speed uses non diminishing abrasives, so they never really dissolve or break down. Even if they did break down, the protection in SPEED doesn't suddenly appear after that has happened. It's being laid down the second you start polishing. Do you move the polisher very slowly when applying a pure wax? Nope. Same idea. You move the polisher slowly for removing defects. One could argue the protection of SPEED could be longer if it's left to sit a bit before wiping off.
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I'm just going by the directions on the bottle. I'm no pro but some of you guys are using it wrong imo. Just ssyin

Edit: and technically your comparison isn't apples to apples.
 
I typically let Speed dwell on the car while I finish polishing the rest of it. I start with slow passes and heavier pressure (Rupes speed 3-4) to remove the defects then speed up my passes with only the weight of the Rupes (still on speed setting 3-4).

This method has proven to provide 3 months of protective beading still today (my black Sapphire Metallic BMW is the test dummy I've been watching).

By letting Speed dwell on the paint while I finish the rest of the car has been an effective method for me. It's still easily wiped off afterwards too.


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From what you have on hand, I'd prob go with Prima Banana. It may help hide any small defects that are left over. But ideally I'd say Poxy, but lately I have been using Meg's UFF and loving it.
 
•Since you already have it...
I'll suggest the Prima Epic:

-Nothing hardly better than
a Synthetic Wax over top of
an AIO/Cleaner-Sealant, IMO.


Bob
 
Meguiars Ultimate Fast Finish would serve your needs. Easy, quick, and good durability.
 
Leaving speed on the paint for at least 20 minutes substantially increases the longevity. Never ever wipe it right off after you finish a section.
 
Rhetorical question. Couldn't you just put two dots of poxy on your pad with speed on it so after you finish, it's got both in the paint? I've put fine polishes and liquid wax/sealant on at the same time.
 
Another vote for Poxy. Speed and Poxy are made to go together and you will get the longest life out of using both.
 
As others have said HD Poxy after using Speed is a great combo, well worth ordering it.
 
The bottle says to use a medium cut foam pad and then
A second coat with a finishing pad with HD speed, so only one bottle but
A couple different pads. I've never tried that. Proxy
Works great tho, I've done that many times. Anyone tried a finishing pad with HD speed after using a cutting pad with it?
 
After polishing the wifes van last summer with Speed and topping with Poxy I wasn't really impressed with longevity. Our cars are outside 24-7 with no shade or cover from elements. I maybe got 2 months.

Since you have Colinite already, give that a shot before spending money on something else.
 
WillSports3 said:
Rhetorical question. Couldn't you just put two dots of poxy on your pad with speed on it so after you finish, it's got both in the paint? I've put fine polishes and liquid wax/sealant on at the same time.
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I was wondering the recently couldn't you just add any sealant on the pad with your polish of choice and make your own AIO


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I used HD Speed for the first time about a week ago and had the same question. I left Speed on the paint for about 30 minutes before buffing it off. Wanted to top it with something for just a little bit better durability but did not have any Poxy to try. I went with Collinite 845 and the results were great! Of the choices you mentioned you have, my vote would be to use the 845!
 
Yup. . . HD SPEED + 845 was my past Saturday. I've never tested out the longevity of speed because I don't think I'll ever not top with 845. Speed to me is choice just because of its light correction and ease of use.

Maybe I'll do as others suggested and leave on for a bit longer just to see how it does on its own. . . .as always, test on the wife's car though.

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TacTics said:
Yup. . . HD SPEED + 845 was my past Saturday. I've never tested out the longevity of speed because I don't think I'll ever not top with 845. Speed to me is choice just because of its light correction and ease of use.

Maybe I'll do as others suggested and leave on for a bit longer just to see how it does on its own. . . .as always, test on the wife's car though.

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Exactly my combo. And yes, I like products with ease of use and removal. Speed & 845 both fit these descriptions. Speed is very easy to remove even after almost an hour, and I could leave the 845 to dry for hours and it would still wipe right off in minutes.

Once my 845 runs out, I will be giving Poxy a try though. If custmsprty is liking it down there in that wicked South Florida sun, I think it'll be fine up here in NY. :props:
 
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