What did you do today non-detailing related?

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Here’s a better shot when they were new.

I love how American's keep their lawns, thick and lush. Here, we scalp them, which is not ideal for a variety of reasons.

I went deep down the rabbit hole of wood working when I was at high school. I went from absolutely hating compulsory 7th grade woodwork classes, to it being one of my favorite subjects, one I carried right through until 12th grade. I nearly became a cabinet maker but got sidetracked with horticulture and ended up following in my grandmothers' footsteps into the nursery industry. Then I got a car and my interest in woodwork drifted.

So, any chance I get mess about with timber is an enjoyable experience. I built these plant stands last Autumn to replace an older set that had seen their best days.











I ended up repairing and repainting the old stands, which I then used to rehash the native area displays.











I then carried the momentum by using old pallets as display tables.





Sadly, I don't think my efforts were very well received.
 
I spent the day helping my nephew move house. He's bought his first home at 34, so I helped him load and unload five trailer loads of everything in the house. Luckily it's only about 2km between his old rental and the new place. We'll still have to do one more trip tomorrow, we were too tired to finish today.

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I love how American's keep their lawns, thick and lush. Here, we scalp them, which is not ideal for a variety of reasons.

I went deep down the rabbit hole of wood working when I was at high school. I went from absolutely hating compulsory 7th grade woodwork classes, to it being one of my favorite subjects, one I carried right through until 12th grade. I nearly became a cabinet maker but got sidetracked with horticulture and ended up following in my grandmothers' footsteps into the nursery industry. Then I got a car and my interest in woodwork drifted.

So, any chance I get mess about with timber is an enjoyable experience. I built these plant stands last Autumn to replace an older set that had seen their best days.

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I ended up repairing and repainting the old stands, which I then used to rehash the native area displays.
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I then carried the momentum by using old pallets as display tables.
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Sadly, I don't think my efforts were very well received.

I tend to keep my grass a notch longer than most of my neighbors (well, 2 or 3 compared to my direct back neighbor - they've got a rider and they absolutely scalp theirs. :huh:

I also don't run our sprinklers as often as everyone else; as much as I love a green yard at a certain point I just feel guilty with the state of the world these days...
We have summer watering restrictions where you're only supposed to water every-other day (dictated by house number - odds/evens); my next door neighbor continues to water twice a day even when I remind him..

I like what you did for the displays. Chamfered edges and countersunk holes show that they weren't just thrown together. And having them throughout your store adds a nice subliminal sense of continuity.
I like the pallet idea as well; I think it's a nice upgrade for displaying things with minimal outlay for the business.

Regarding your efforts being not well received, I'm just gonna be so bold as to say: Screw em. I feel like you and I both hold a sense of pride for the work we do and go out of the way to do those little things that just make the final product better , even if the boss would rather you take that extra 2 minutes elsewhere or if *most* customers wouldn't even notice.

But it's important to do those things that give you satisfaction in the day-to-day, where you know that there will be that customer that notices and appreciates that extra mile you went. Or a local rep or a competitor comes through and looks and says to themself - "Well, hey...". Like I try and drive into the guys at work - it's about trying to elevate ourselves above all the other animals out there.


On the woodworking front, I feel like it's going to become my hobby that I identify with. For years I've considered detailing my hobby, but have always said when people as that it's my "Aspirational Hobby" - as in I aspire one day for it to be my hobby.

I love detailing. I love taking something "less" and making it "more". I enjoy the zen like process of engaging in something with great focus. The notion of taking different avenues to reach the same destination by trying different products.

But the reality of my situation is that as much as I enjoy it, my free-time gets focused on family time and keeping up with the normal day-to-day house stuff.

My day starts at about 5:30, leave for work at 6, get back home around 530/6 with commute, then by the time dinner is done and the kid's in bed it's 9. I'm much better at dishes than cooking, so I do the former since the Mrs does the latter. So, reset the kitchen and the day is shot.
Needless to say, I just haven't been able to make weeknights a thing. Saturdays are house cleaning day (short version: when I had my first house by myself, I did not keep it well; my mental state is much better when we keep up on the house. Plus with 160 lbs (73kg) worth of 2 dogs and a 9 year old human, it just needs to be cleaned every weekend), Sundays are taking the kid to gymnastics + grocery shopping and whatever else.

All that venting is just to say that when I finally do get to do car stuff, it ends up being as fast as I can possibly do it, which I get ZERO enjoyment out of. Plus the fact that I have a 'Geek's standards and eye for paint defects, I can only go so fast or do so much of an "abbreviated clean". I've tried breaking projects into sections, but with a 75-80 mile commute progress quickly gets un-done. And even when I've taken a day off to go through "the works", again it only lasts so long.


I had the realization when I was doing the painting table for my wife that woodworking gives me the mental outlet I need - I have much more time to *think* about stuff than actively work on things - So throughout the day I can think through design elements and come up with execution ideas. It's a whole new topic to research which I also enjoy.

Plus, each day while I was working on her table during my lunch break it occurred to me - there's no losing ground like it feels sometimes with detailing. Even if I only got one board cut, or even just marked out, it will be there waiting for me when I can get back to it.

Having decided to go as much hand-tool work as I can, it again is about learning and refining the process. As I was able to mark out and freehand cut legit 90° cuts, it's that same satisfaction as polishing out a panel to defect free perfection.

Sorry for the probably corny, overly wordy run through, but just wanted to share where I'm at. My activity on here has largely dropped off from a posting standpoint because I just haven't been able to be out detailing. I still visit and keep up on reading because I like this little corner of the internet - I appreciate the people, their knowledge, and the good-group vibe.
 
went to the dentist, which is always fun... :/
 
I tend to keep my grass a notch longer than most of my neighbors (well, 2 or 3 compared to my direct back neighbor - they've got a rider and they absolutely scalp theirs. :huh:

I also don't run our sprinklers as often as everyone else; as much as I love a green yard at a certain point I just feel guilty with the state of the world these days...
We have summer watering restrictions where you're only supposed to water every-other day (dictated by house number - odds/evens); my next door neighbor continues to water twice a day even when I remind him..

I like what you did for the displays. Chamfered edges and countersunk holes show that they weren't just thrown together. And having them throughout your store adds a nice subliminal sense of continuity.
I like the pallet idea as well; I think it's a nice upgrade for displaying things with minimal outlay for the business.

Regarding your efforts being not well received, I'm just gonna be so bold as to say: Screw em. I feel like you and I both hold a sense of pride for the work we do and go out of the way to do those little things that just make the final product better , even if the boss would rather you take that extra 2 minutes elsewhere or if *most* customers wouldn't even notice.

But it's important to do those things that give you satisfaction in the day-to-day, where you know that there will be that customer that notices and appreciates that extra mile you went. Or a local rep or a competitor comes through and looks and says to themself - "Well, hey...". Like I try and drive into the guys at work - it's about trying to elevate ourselves above all the other animals out there.


On the woodworking front, I feel like it's going to become my hobby that I identify with. For years I've considered detailing my hobby, but have always said when people as that it's my "Aspirational Hobby" - as in I aspire one day for it to be my hobby.

I love detailing. I love taking something "less" and making it "more". I enjoy the zen like process of engaging in something with great focus. The notion of taking different avenues to reach the same destination by trying different products.

But the reality of my situation is that as much as I enjoy it, my free-time gets focused on family time and keeping up with the normal day-to-day house stuff.

My day starts at about 5:30, leave for work at 6, get back home around 530/6 with commute, then by the time dinner is done and the kid's in bed it's 9. I'm much better at dishes than cooking, so I do the former since the Mrs does the latter. So, reset the kitchen and the day is shot.
Needless to say, I just haven't been able to make weeknights a thing. Saturdays are house cleaning day (short version: when I had my first house by myself, I did not keep it well; my mental state is much better when we keep up on the house. Plus with 160 lbs (73kg) worth of 2 dogs and a 9 year old human, it just needs to be cleaned every weekend), Sundays are taking the kid to gymnastics + grocery shopping and whatever else.

All that venting is just to say that when I finally do get to do car stuff, it ends up being as fast as I can possibly do it, which I get ZERO enjoyment out of. Plus the fact that I have a 'Geek's standards and eye for paint defects, I can only go so fast or do so much of an "abbreviated clean". I've tried breaking projects into sections, but with a 75-80 mile commute progress quickly gets un-done. And even when I've taken a day off to go through "the works", again it only lasts so long.


I had the realization when I was doing the painting table for my wife that woodworking gives me the mental outlet I need - I have much more time to *think* about stuff than actively work on things - So throughout the day I can think through design elements and come up with execution ideas. It's a whole new topic to research which I also enjoy.

Plus, each day while I was working on her table during my lunch break it occurred to me - there's no losing ground like it feels sometimes with detailing. Even if I only got one board cut, or even just marked out, it will be there waiting for me when I can get back to it.

Having decided to go as much hand-tool work as I can, it again is about learning and refining the process. As I was able to mark out and freehand cut legit 90° cuts, it's that same satisfaction as polishing out a panel to defect free perfection.

Sorry for the probably corny, overly wordy run through, but just wanted to share where I'm at. My activity on here has largely dropped off from a posting standpoint because I just haven't been able to be out detailing. I still visit and keep up on reading because I like this little corner of the internet - I appreciate the people, their knowledge, and the good-group vibe.
Amongst all your wordy run through, you've highlighted the frustration of detailing, as soon as you've completed something, the "un-detailing" begins, whether it's a daily driver or a garage queen, time is reversing what you've just done.

I'm also good with the dishes, must be an extension of the car detailing, but we have a dishwasher now, and I'm not allowed to put anything in it, apparently I load it wrong.

And no, it wasn't corny, I like reading about other people's thought processes and philosophies, everybody is an individual, and it's all based on our own life experiences, I also like this corner of the internet.

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Flew to Florence, Italy for 2 weeks of wandering.

Interesting trash ‘strategy’ here; metal trash cans all around, deposit your trash & periodically a truck w a large magnet comes by to pick up (literally) the can which is attached to a large underground receptacle. Pick the whole thing up, empty & put back into place.

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Narrow streets, keep your head on a swivel when walking cuz scooters & vehicles don’t stop for anything!

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Hopefully make it home in one piece. Staying in a 5th floor apartment w no elevator. Multiple flights of stone steps are great exercise.

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A couple weeks ago but got to see the Aurora Borealis down here


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A couple weeks ago but got to see the Aurora Borealis down here


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Last time I was down south in Hobart, the capital of Australia's most southern state, they had one night when the Aurora Australis was visible, but I didn't know about it till the next day, so I sat in my hotel room watching who knows what on the idiot box. I was so disappointed.



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Last time I was down south in Hobart, the capital of Australia's most southern state, they had one night when the Aurora Australis was visible, but I didn't know about it till the next day, so I sat in my hotel room watching who knows what on the idiot box. I was so disappointed.

Ha, it never occurred to me that aurora's are also a southern hemisphere thing, but of course they would have to be since the world is round. They must have great views in Antarctica, being that you can actually get to the South Pole, as opposed to the North Pole, which is in the middle of the ocean.
 
Interesting trash ‘strategy’ here; metal trash cans all around, deposit your trash & periodically a truck w a large magnet comes by to pick up (literally) the can which is attached to a large underground receptacle. Pick the whole thing up, empty & put back into place.

Narrow streets, keep your head on a swivel when walking cuz scooters & vehicles don’t stop for anything!

You didn't need to tell me the second part, I could tell from the first part that people there watch where they are going--so they don't fall into a giant hole in the sidewalk while they are emptying the trash.
 
I tend to keep my grass a notch longer than most of my neighbors (well, 2 or 3 compared to my direct back neighbor - they've got a rider and they absolutely scalp theirs. :huh:

I also don't run our sprinklers as often as everyone else; as much as I love a green yard at a certain point I just feel guilty with the state of the world these days...
We have summer watering restrictions where you're only supposed to water every-other day (dictated by house number - odds/evens); my next door neighbor continues to water twice a day even when I remind him..

I like what you did for the displays. Chamfered edges and countersunk holes show that they weren't just thrown together. And having them throughout your store adds a nice subliminal sense of continuity.
I like the pallet idea as well; I think it's a nice upgrade for displaying things with minimal outlay for the business.

Regarding your efforts being not well received, I'm just gonna be so bold as to say: Screw em. I feel like you and I both hold a sense of pride for the work we do and go out of the way to do those little things that just make the final product better , even if the boss would rather you take that extra 2 minutes elsewhere or if *most* customers wouldn't even notice.

But it's important to do those things that give you satisfaction in the day-to-day, where you know that there will be that customer that notices and appreciates that extra mile you went. Or a local rep or a competitor comes through and looks and says to themself - "Well, hey...". Like I try and drive into the guys at work - it's about trying to elevate ourselves above all the other animals out there.


On the woodworking front, I feel like it's going to become my hobby that I identify with. For years I've considered detailing my hobby, but have always said when people as that it's my "Aspirational Hobby" - as in I aspire one day for it to be my hobby.

I love detailing. I love taking something "less" and making it "more". I enjoy the zen like process of engaging in something with great focus. The notion of taking different avenues to reach the same destination by trying different products.

But the reality of my situation is that as much as I enjoy it, my free-time gets focused on family time and keeping up with the normal day-to-day house stuff.

My day starts at about 5:30, leave for work at 6, get back home around 530/6 with commute, then by the time dinner is done and the kid's in bed it's 9. I'm much better at dishes than cooking, so I do the former since the Mrs does the latter. So, reset the kitchen and the day is shot.
Needless to say, I just haven't been able to make weeknights a thing. Saturdays are house cleaning day (short version: when I had my first house by myself, I did not keep it well; my mental state is much better when we keep up on the house. Plus with 160 lbs (73kg) worth of 2 dogs and a 9 year old human, it just needs to be cleaned every weekend), Sundays are taking the kid to gymnastics + grocery shopping and whatever else.

All that venting is just to say that when I finally do get to do car stuff, it ends up being as fast as I can possibly do it, which I get ZERO enjoyment out of. Plus the fact that I have a 'Geek's standards and eye for paint defects, I can only go so fast or do so much of an "abbreviated clean". I've tried breaking projects into sections, but with a 75-80 mile commute progress quickly gets un-done. And even when I've taken a day off to go through "the works", again it only lasts so long.


I had the realization when I was doing the painting table for my wife that woodworking gives me the mental outlet I need - I have much more time to *think* about stuff than actively work on things - So throughout the day I can think through design elements and come up with execution ideas. It's a whole new topic to research which I also enjoy.

Plus, each day while I was working on her table during my lunch break it occurred to me - there's no losing ground like it feels sometimes with detailing. Even if I only got one board cut, or even just marked out, it will be there waiting for me when I can get back to it.

Having decided to go as much hand-tool work as I can, it again is about learning and refining the process. As I was able to mark out and freehand cut legit 90° cuts, it's that same satisfaction as polishing out a panel to defect free perfection.

Sorry for the probably corny, overly wordy run through, but just wanted to share where I'm at. My activity on here has largely dropped off from a posting standpoint because I just haven't been able to be out detailing. I still visit and keep up on reading because I like this little corner of the internet - I appreciate the people, their knowledge, and the good-group vibe.

No need to apologize at all!

We all need an outlet to let those thoughts out of our system. If it's any consolation, you are not alone in feeling that way. To be frank, at what point do humans start to live life rather than running around like crazy people trying to fit it ALL in? If you can find that "thing" that allows you to escape reality for a while, then lean into it.

Regarding your efforts being not well received, I'm just gonna be so bold as to say: Screw em. I feel like you and I both hold a sense of pride for the work we do and go out of the way to do those little things that just make the final product better , even if the boss would rather you take that extra 2 minutes elsewhere or if *most* customers wouldn't even notice.

But it's important to do those things that give you satisfaction in the day-to-day, where you know that there will be that customer that notices and appreciates that extra mile you went. Or a local rep or a competitor comes through and looks and says to themself - "Well, hey...". Like I try and drive into the guys at work - it's about trying to elevate ourselves above all the other animals out there.

I get a lot of customer feedback with regards to how the place looks, virtually none from those who pay the wages. That lack of positive feedback makes it hard to know if I'm doing well or not, but when I screw up, I sure know about that. No surprise to those who know me, but I'm pretty neurotic when I'm focused on something, like a dog with a bone. That intensity and obsessiveness tends to rub people the wrong way, but then that's what gets the results.

If there is one thing I have learnt in the workplace, its that everyone works differently, even if the task is the same. As an employer, you can either fight that, or lean into it. As long as the job is being done to a high standard, then who cares how that job is done.

As for hobbies, I nearly turned one into my career (woodworking) and another into my career (horticulture). You can probably tell, I'm a little burnt out from horticulture, in other words, I turned a hobby that I loved into something that is now a chore. I have people telling me that I should turn detailing into my job, and while I have everything to do so, I don't want to "ruin" what has been my savior over the last few years.
 
Don’t judge me

It’s got wheels…
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Anyone know the proper foam dwell time for a grill cover?



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I added some self adhesive foam to the inside of the garage door, to help with insulation of both sound and temperature. I did go with the cheap option, it cost less than $5 per door panel. I'm still considering whether to do the bottom panels or not.
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I added some self adhesive foam to the inside of the garage door, to help with insulation of both sound and temperature. I did go with the cheap option, it cost less than $5 per door panel. I'm still considering whether to do the bottom panels or not.
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Looks good and I'm sure it's functional too

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Looks good and I'm sure it's functional too

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The metal panels pop and bang when it's windy, which should stop now, and when it's hot outside the metal panels act like radiators, I'm not sure how much difference it will make on cold days, but we don't get below freezing much. It'll also be quieter when I'm using power tools.

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The metal panels pop and bang when it's windy, which should stop now, and when it's hot outside the metal panels act like radiators, I'm not sure how much difference it will make on cold days, but we don't get below freezing much. It'll also be quieter when I'm using power tools.

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Now Dave...when you say "cold" days

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Now Dave...when you say "cold" days

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Yeah, I know our cold doesn't match what you get. But it's interesting, everyone thinks of Australia as a hot country, but I saw a video from someone who's from a much colder country than Australia, and they said they've never felt as cold inside a house as they did when they stayed over here during winter, with lots of supporting comments from people from places like Canada and Sweden saying how cold our houses are. You see our houses really aren't designed for the cold like yours are, because it just doesn't get that cold here, so we just put up with it, because it's not really cold enough to kill you.

Where we live now, the temp gets down to around 38f overnight in winter, and rarely below 32, inside the house it will be around 60, and we don't run the heater overnight, it's ducted aircon with a heating function, very efficient, I'll put it on in the morning for an hour or 2 and set the temp at 66, and I might put it on after dark for a few hours, but we don't have it on all the time. Our old house in Sydney, which was 70+ years old, didn't have heating, other than space heaters in some rooms, and we'd regularly wake up on winter mornings with the inside temps below 50, it was what I grew up with and we were used to it. I'm sure they have better insulation in houses down Deyons way, he's about 400 miles south of me, and much further inland, so they would get cooler temps down that way, but once again, not really cold enough to kill you.

What inside temps do you guys find comfortable in your homes, just curious.

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Yeah, I know our cold doesn't match what you get. But it's interesting, everyone thinks of Australia as a hot country, but I saw a video from someone who's from a much colder country than Australia, and they said they've never felt as cold inside a house as they did when they stayed over here during winter, with lots of supporting comments from people from places like Canada and Sweden saying how cold our houses are. You see our houses really aren't designed for the cold like yours are, because it just doesn't get that cold here, so we just put up with it, because it's not really cold enough to kill you.

Where we live now, the temp gets down to around 38f overnight in winter, and rarely below 32, inside the house it will be around 60, and we don't run the heater overnight, it's ducted aircon with a heating function, very efficient, I'll put it on in the morning for an hour or 2 and set the temp at 66, and I might put it on after dark for a few hours, but we don't have it on all the time. Our old house in Sydney, which was 70+ years old, didn't have heating, other than space heaters in some rooms, and we'd regularly wake up on winter mornings with the inside temps below 50, it was what I grew up with and we were used to it. I'm sure they have better insulation in houses down Deyons way, he's about 400 miles south of me, and much further inland, so they would get cooler temps down that way, but once again, not really cold enough to kill you.

What inside temps do you guys find comfortable in your homes, just curious.

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In winter I'll set our furnace for 68-69, up to 71 when it's near zero outside and we're good. In the fall my windows are open, no HVAC on till necessary, just how I am

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Yeah, I know our cold doesn't match what you get. But it's interesting, everyone thinks of Australia as a hot country, but I saw a video from someone who's from a much colder country than Australia, and they said they've never felt as cold inside a house as they did when they stayed over here during winter, with lots of supporting comments from people from places like Canada and Sweden saying how cold our houses are. You see our houses really aren't designed for the cold like yours are, because it just doesn't get that cold here, so we just put up with it, because it's not really cold enough to kill you.

Where we live now, the temp gets down to around 38f overnight in winter, and rarely below 32, inside the house it will be around 60, and we don't run the heater overnight, it's ducted aircon with a heating function, very efficient, I'll put it on in the morning for an hour or 2 and set the temp at 66, and I might put it on after dark for a few hours, but we don't have it on all the time. Our old house in Sydney, which was 70+ years old, didn't have heating, other than space heaters in some rooms, and we'd regularly wake up on winter mornings with the inside temps below 50, it was what I grew up with and we were used to it. I'm sure they have better insulation in houses down Deyons way, he's about 400 miles south of me, and much further inland, so they would get cooler temps down that way, but once again, not really cold enough to kill you.

What inside temps do you guys find comfortable in your homes, just curious.

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Our average winter temps are probably 10-15 F with dips to 20-25 below, and it can swing up into the mid 40s for short periods as well

We keep the thermostat at 68 in the winter in the house and I keep the garage at 60

The garage doors are foam sandwiched metal and heavily weatherstripped

Wind is our biggest nemesis, it will really suck the heat out of a house that isn't well built

So far we don't really need AC up here to get through the summers, although people are starting to install them
 
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