what is the BEST Final Polish For BLACK?? Swirl free

I'll toss in an underdog nomination to changes things up a little: Blackfire SRC duo. I've used them together on my GTI's hard VW paint and come up with a brilliant, flawless shine. After a conversation with Dave at Lake Country, following the filming of a Competition Ready episode, I've found using the SRC polish on an orange pad will also produce an amazing shine too in one step.
 
Desertnate said:
I'll toss in an underdog nomination to changes things up a little: Blackfire SRC duo. I've used them together on my GTI's hard VW paint and come up with a brilliant, flawless shine. After a conversation with Dave at Lake Country, following the filming of a Competition Ready episode, I've found using the SRC polish on an orange pad will also produce an amazing shine too in one step.
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They are a fantastic duo! Do you have the most recent SRC compound formula?
 
WRAPT C5Z06 said:
They are a fantastic duo! Do you have the most recent SRC compound formula?
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I'm not sure when the formula changed. The bottles I own are almost three years old. New formula or not, they work great!
 
Desertnate said:
I'll toss in an underdog nomination to changes things up a little: Blackfire SRC duo. I've used them together on my GTI's hard VW paint and come up with a brilliant, flawless shine. After a conversation with Dave at Lake Country, following the filming of a Competition Ready episode, I've found using the SRC polish on an orange pad will also produce an amazing shine too in one step.
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I'm going with the blackfire line up as well. Already have the src polish just need to order the compound and some pads. your post has made me decide on the LC ones. Did you use the flat, or CCS? normal thickness or the thin ones (if they were flat)?

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Wolfgang 'Twins'...

Swirl Remover w/ LC Orange flat pad, Finishing Glaze w/ LC White flat pad. Did nice job 9n black 2007 Mazda that had been washed about 3 times since new, black 2016 Subaru heavily swirled from crappy dealer prep, now working it on black 2004 Corvette. Subaru likely best example as paint in good condition but lotsa swirls...WG Twins made paint pretty much perfect.
 
raheelc said:
I'm going with the blackfire line up as well. Already have the src polish just need to order the compound and some pads. your post has made me decide on the LC ones. Did you use the flat, or CCS? normal thickness or the thin ones (if they were flat)?

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Right now I'm using the older, "regular", flat pads. I have some of the new, thin pads to try out, but haven't had a chance to put them to the test as I polished the car receiving the Blackfire treatment about a week before they arrived. Even if the thin pads turn out to be amazing, the transition will probably happen pretty slowly since I've got a decent stock of the regular ones that is pretty new.
 
Wolfgang Finishing Glaze 3.0 , its actually a final polish not a glaze.
 
I believe if you read the product description on AG it says it has fillers in it. Maybe I am confusing the finishing glaze 3.0 with a different product.
 
uhohitsstevo said:
I believe if you read the product description on AG it says it has fillers in it. Maybe I am confusing the finishing glaze 3.0 with a different product.
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Most polishes have fillers, some more than others. That's why it's important to inspect your work after a wipe down of some type of panel wipe. Some products have "durable" fillers that are very hard to remove, unless you use a very strong solvent.
 
Strong solvent is not something I would recommend, however a solvent to help like an ipa wipedown is recommended. look up the article by Mike, I use 90% ipa and dilute it 8:1

WRAPT C5Z06 said:
Most polishes have fillers, some more than others. That's why it's important to inspect your work after a wipe down of some type of panel wipe. Some products have "durable" fillers that are very hard to remove, unless you use a very strong solvent.
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uhohitsstevo said:
Strong solvent is not something I would recommend, however a solvent to help like an ipa wipedown is recommended. look up the article by Mike, I use 90% ipa and dilute it 8:1
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I've been burned by swirls that have been filled and even after an IPA wipe down weren't removed, there's merit to what Wrapt said. A few years ago there was a very popular polish that did achieve great results but to some here contained masking qualities that turned out to be very hard to remove, went unnoticed and burned quite a few pro installers of coatings. Corey from CarPro gave great advice in his UK video, said to wipe down panel by panel as you go instead of polishing the whole car and then remove polish
 
vobro said:
I've been burned by swirls that have been filled and even after an IPA wipe down weren't removed, there's merit to what Wrapt said. A few years ago there was a very popular polish that did achieve great results but to some here contained masking qualities that turned out to be very hard to remove, went unnoticed and burned quite a few pro installers of coatings. Corey from CarPro gave great advice in his UK video, said to wipe down panel by panel as you go instead of polishing the whole car and then remove polish
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Yep, I know the polish you're talking about. There's another one that came out that people use these days with similar characteristics.
 
Desertnate said:
Right now I'm using the older, "regular", flat pads. I have some of the new, thin pads to try out, but haven't had a chance to put them to the test as I polished the car receiving the Blackfire treatment about a week before they arrived. Even if the thin pads turn out to be amazing, the transition will probably happen pretty slowly since I've got a decent stock of the regular ones that is pretty new.
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cool, thanks for the info. I'm thinking of going with the new, thin pads, I've been reading some good things about those. What combinations of pads would you recommend (for a 6-pad pack)? I have a 2010 Range Rover Sport which has black paint. Paint is in decent condition, some swirl marks present, but nothing major. I'll be using them on a GG6. Also sticking with the Blackfire Lineup: SRC compound (only if needed), SRC polish, Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection, then finally BlackIce Hybrid Montan Sealant Wax
 
raheelc said:
cool, thanks for the info. I'm thinking of going with the new, thin pads, I've been reading some good things about those. What combinations of pads would you recommend (for a 6-pad pack)? I have a 2010 Range Rover Sport which has black paint. Paint is in decent condition, some swirl marks present, but nothing major. I'll be using them on a GG6. Also sticking with the Blackfire Lineup: SRC compound (only if needed), SRC polish, Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection, then finally BlackIce Hybrid Montan Sealant Wax
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How hard is Range Rover paint? I have no experience with one.

I'd allocate at least one black/blue pad for wax/sealant application. From there the mixture should be based on the type of paint. If it's really hard, you might want to go with 3 orange and two white. Softer paint might get a ratio leaning heavier on white pads. The next time you make an order, I'd get another pack simply to give you the ability to swap out pads more frequently. This is all based on my experience with the older flat pads. The thin ones will behave differently and the foam is firmer, which may lead to different correction ability.

Figuring out the ration of pads will be the toughest part going on. It has been for me. I've found SRC polish on an orange pad will finish really well and correct most swirls. SRC compound on a white pad will knock out even the worst swirls on my GTI and finish off really well, but not *quite* as nicely the SRC polish on white. Honestly, only fanatics that hang out around here would probably notice the difference. if it wasn't my DD and the car I "baby", I'd be perfectly happy with the compound on white. Rock hard VW paint gives me a few options not available/needed on softer paint.
 
Desertnate said:
How hard is Range Rover paint? I have no experience with one.

I'd allocate at least one black/blue pad for wax/sealant application. From there the mixture should be based on the type of paint. If it's really hard, you might want to go with 3 orange and two white. Softer paint might get a ratio leaning heavier on white pads. The next time you make an order, I'd get another pack simply to give you the ability to swap out pads more frequently. This is all based on my experience with the older flat pads. The thin ones will behave differently and the foam is firmer, which may lead to different correction ability.

Figuring out the ration of pads will be the toughest part going on. It has been for me. I've found SRC polish on an orange pad will finish really well and correct most swirls. SRC compound on a white pad will knock out even the worst swirls on my GTI and finish off really well, but not *quite* as nicely the SRC polish on white. Honestly, only fanatics that hang out around here would probably notice the difference. if it wasn't my DD and the car I "baby", I'd be perfectly happy with the compound on white. Rock hard VW paint gives me a few options not available/needed on softer paint.
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Its supposed to be soft, but not the softest paint out there. I'm honestly not experienced enough to give an accurate description to exactly how soft it is (really only detail my own vehicle).

For perspective, this is also my daily driver, so I'm not expecting it to be perfect. Since my vehicle is relatively big, I'm going to need multiple pads of each color. Going to do a bit more research and see what combination will work best for me.

Thanks for the help!

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WRAPT C5Z06 said:
Yep, I know the polish you're talking about. There's another one that came out that people use these days with similar characteristics.
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I'll take a pm on that one, Mark...if ya' don't mind. Thank you!

Do you have the new SRC Blackfire products? Wasn't aware they'd changed the formula. When?


Talking black paint...
Mike Phillips sure seems to reach for these two an awful lot on the forum and in person...
Pinnacle 8 oz. Swirl Remover Combo
 
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