What is your approach to selling full correction?

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I'm just curious about this topic. I do quite a bit of correction. But at the same time...I find it really tough to talk cutomers into dropping dough for a FULL correction. By full correction, I mean the entire vehicle, wet sanding (if necessary), and a 3 step process (maybe 4 depending on customer preference for wax over sealant). I do have a Platinum package I started offering this year that is intended for full correction jobs.

I do see quite a bit of people talking/showing jobs where they performed full correction. I'm assuming these aren't just friends vehicles or something like that, and they were paying customers.

So, my question is...for those of you out there who do full corrections more frequently, what is your selling point? What are your key phrases used to sell this type of service? How do you get someone to reach into their pocket...and pay you for 2 days worth of work instead of just a 1 step, or 2 step polish for a quarter of the price? Spill the beans!! lol
 
Personally i feel that it is tough to sell a full correction. There are not too many people that are willing to spend that kinda cash on a daily driver. Unless the car is rare or some sort of high dollar car it is almost a waste of time. I generally look at their car, their concerns about why they are calling me to detail the car and I ask them how they use their car to determine if it is even worthwhile to try to sell an expensive service. I cant see too many customers paying me a lot of money to get their cars perfect only to run it through the tunnel wash next week.
 
I think alot of it plays into where you are marketing your full corrections and to what crowd. It is near impossible for me to sell a full correction on a daily driver and I understand why. Now, when I market myself at "higher end" car shows, etc, I have been very successful with that crowd. Perhaps it is because they have the spare coin or know what their expensive car deserves. When I compare my paint to their's they are sold pretty easily. But with the soccer mom van it aint happenin. So, my short answer is targeted marketing in my case. I know there are much more experienced guys and gals on here that will chime in with advice. I am subscribed to the thread!
 
I don't really try to sell them on a full correction. I ask them what they are looking for, what their budget is, how the car is used, and how it's typically cared for. Then I suggest a package that best suits their needs.
 
I think Porsche is on the right track with this one. I don't do a lot of correction work. But whenever your selling anything you have to ensure your selling it to the right crowd. Your average person isn't going to spend the money for a 3 step correction. Most of them probably don't even notice the swirls in their paint.

But if you hit up some car shows, club meets, even your local ride night. Typically, these are older gentlemen (not always) that take "pride in their ride" (see how i just wrote your tag line in there!) may be willing to spend the extra money to have a 3 step correction done.

This is on my list of things to hit up this year.
 
Just do a test spot in the middle of the hood.... then they have to get the rest of the car done :D
 
I think alot of it plays into where you are marketing your full corrections and to what crowd. It is near impossible for me to sell a full correction on a daily driver and I understand why. Now, when I market myself at "higher end" car shows, etc, I have been very successful with that crowd. Perhaps it is because they have the spare coin or know what their expensive car deserves. When I compare my paint to their's they are sold pretty easily. But with the soccer mom van it aint happenin. So, my short answer is targeted marketing in my case. I know there are much more experienced guys and gals on here that will chime in with advice. I am subscribed to the thread!

:iagree:with all of it. Targeted Marketing is spot on. A friend of mine gave me some good advice, soccer mom crowd wants clean and shiny - lots of money to be made with them. Yes you can sell expensive corrections and make a lot of money, but that can come with high stress. Daily drivers don't expect perfection, the expect clean and shiny. This is where volume detailing comes into play. Or as it has been coined "Match your services to your customer".

*I see that my answer was covered while typing :)
 
I completely get that too. I can usually read when someone is there for just a one step polish, and an interior on a DD. But my questions is not so much aimed at how do you convince a DD customer to get full correction. It's more about what selling points are used when you DO get one of those high end customers to come rolling up. I'm just curious as to what people typically say, do, or even show the customer when convincing them to go into full correction.

I've thought many times about going to a junk yard, and picking out a really bad black hood, then correcting half of it...and just keeping it around to convince someone of the difference that can be made. Just an idea. I think that would really help sell the service. :xyxthumbs:
 
I recently had my black X3 done by Mr. Todd Helme. He recommended the two-step (if I recall correctly) process over the full correction. I was more than willing to shell out the extra cash for the full correction, but with his advice and it being a daily driver, we both thought the two-step would be the wise choice.
 
Just do a test spot in the middle of the hood.... then they have to get the rest of the car done :D

haha, sounds like a jerk thing to do...but I've actually done it. I didn't do a test spot in the middle of the hood. But, a lot of times I'll do the hood and show them the difference from the hood, and then the rest of the vechile. It's worked a couple times, ha. :xyxthumbs:
 
I think Porsche is on the right track with this one. I don't do a lot of correction work. But whenever your selling anything you have to ensure your selling it to the right crowd. Your average person isn't going to spend the money for a 3 step correction. Most of them probably don't even notice the swirls in their paint.

But if you hit up some car shows, club meets, even your local ride night. Typically, these are older gentlemen (not always) that take "pride in their ride" (see how i just wrote your tag line in there!) may be willing to spend the extra money to have a 3 step correction done.

This is on my list of things to hit up this year.

Very smooth, ha. Throwing my slogan in there! I like it. I also agree that target marketing is key with this type of situation. Good idea hitting up car shows. I've wanted to do that so many times. Problem is I'm always busy when these car shows are happening. There was a couple in August last year that I really wanted to hit up. Problem with that is August is CRAZY for me. I try to set aside the day to go...but I end up getting too backed up with work...and I just work instead, ha.
 
I've thought many times about going to a junk yard, and picking out a really bad black hood, then correcting half of it...and just keeping it around to convince someone of the difference that can be made. Just an idea. I think that would really help sell the service. :xyxthumbs:

Why not take that same black hood and divide it up into sections, show the before, what an all in one achieves, and what 1-step, 2-step, 3-step, etc. achieves? This will give customers an idea of what you mean by each step and what the outcome could be.
 
:iagree:with all of it. Targeted Marketing is spot on. A friend of mine gave me some good advice, soccer mom crowd wants clean and shiny - lots of money to be made with them. Yes you can sell expensive corrections and make a lot of money, but that can come with high stress. Daily drivers don't expect perfection, the expect clean and shiny. This is where volume detailing comes into play. Or as it has been coined "Match your services to your customer".

*I see that my answer was covered while typing :)

:iagree:
 
I think alot of it plays into where you are marketing your full corrections and to what crowd. It is near impossible for me to sell a full correction on a daily driver and I understand why.

Good point and that's something I cover in this article,

A few tips on starting a part-time detailing business

Excerpt

Mike Phillips said:
First... match your services to your client or market


Over the years here's the normal trend I see on detailing discussion forums...
  • "Car Guy" or "Car Girl" joins car detailing forum reads, asks questions, increases their knowledge.
  • Purchases products, often times moves up to machine polishing because clear coats are too hard and too time consuming to work on by hand.
  • Sees first-hand, phenomenal results from their new found knowledge, skills and abilities.
  • Starts a part-time detailing business.
  • Makes the mistake of offering "Show Car Detailing" to a customer base that knowingly, or unknowingly wants and will only pay for "Production Detailing".
The above two terms for the purpose of this article are generally described as...

Show Car Detailing = Multiple Step Process
Production Detailing = One Step Process


The point is, for most people just starting out the majority of your customers are going to be people with daily drivers and this demographic group are primarily interested in having a shiny car, black tires, clear windows and a vacuumed interior. They won't appreciate a 100% swirl-free finish and generally won't want to pay for it and also won't know how to maintain a swirl free finish after you with all your hard work create these types of results.

This is further explained in this article,

The difference between a swirl and squirrel


Someone just starting a part-time detailing business usually has very noble goals and strives to create show car results for every car they detail and I understand your passion as it is explained here,

The Mindset of a Professional Detailer


That said, you need to match your services to your target market and by this I mean you don't want to offer a multiple step process to the average person with a daily driver that includes,

  1. Car Washing
  2. Claying the paint
  3. Paint Correction - Removing swirls, scratches and water spots
  4. Polishing - Maximizing gloss and clarity by refining the results from the correction step
  5. Sealing or protecting the paint with a car wax or paint sealant

And here's why... the above is a multiple-step approach, it will take you more time than doing a one-step and in most cases you won't be able to charge your demographic market enough money to make enough profit to make it worth your time AND be enjoyable. Working for free is a fast way to take all the fun out of a hobby that's turning into a business.


Instead when first starting out you should be doing a one-step processes or one-step detail jobs.

  1. Wash
  2. Clay
  3. One-Step Cleaner/Wax by hand or machine
This is what's called a One-Step Process, it's actually 3 steps but washing and claying are accepted normal procedures in this day and age for detailing cars whether you're doing Show Car Detailing or Production Detailing.

If you want to do show car work, that is a multiple step processes, then I would recommend to first evaluate your customer and make sure you're matching your services at a profitable price point to customers that actually want show care results.


Production Detailing
Don't do show car detailing for someone that is going to run the car through a car wash as a normal maintenance procedure. It won't be good for you and it won't be good for your potential customer. You should target show car work to people that will appreciate your hard work and that will appreciate the results as well as be knowledgeable enough to understand that clear coat paints are scratch-sensitive and require proper care to stay swirl free.

Since the majority of people that will pay to have their car washed and waxed, (so they don't have to do it themselves), will fall into people that own Daily Drivers, and this larger target market will fall into the category of Production Detailing or in other words, doing one-step procedures to the paint.

The general goal of this type of work isn't to remove ALL the swirls, but to simply make the paint shiny again. Most people don't know what swirls are, they see paint that is either shiny or it's not shiny.

KISS - Keep it Simple Simon
Here's the good news... it's easy to make paint shiny! Show Car Detailing has been historically time and labor intensive with a measured amount of risk. Production Detailing or doing One-Steps is a lot faster, requires a lot less work and there's very little to zero risk. You just follow the basics,

1. Wash and dry car to remove loose surface dirt.

2. Use detailing clay to remove above surface bonded contaminants and restore smoothness to the paint. This is key because gloss comes from smoothness and restored gloss is a powerful visible before-and-after result that your customer will notice.

3. Use a quality one-step cleaner/wax to clean, polish and protect the paint. A quality cleaner/wax will remove surface oxidation, staining and minor surface imperfections. S cleaner/waxes will even remove and/or reduce minor or shallow swirls and scratches. A quality cleaner/wax or cleaner/paint sealant will restore clarity to clear coats and increase shine. Again, these are dramatic before-and-after visible differences that your customer will notice and appreciate.

And just to add, claying the paint with detailing clay also enables your choice of wax or paint sealant to bond better to the paint thus last longer and thus protect longer. These are benefits your customer wants but may not understand very well the reasons why claying helps wax to last longer so this is where you have the opportunity to educate them and set yourself apart from the average detailer with your knowledge.
(Use this to get referrals)

4. Apply some tire dressing to restore a deep, dark black appearance to the tires, clean the windows, vacuum and clean the interior and make sure it smells clean with a fresh scent and that's your basic service package and for the majority of car owners that's what they want, knowingly or unknowingly.​
When first starting out, try to keep things simple, for example offer 4 plans each with it's own price point.

  1. Simple Car Wash - Wash and dry car. (Up-sell dressing tires, cleaning inside of windows)
  2. Interior Detail
  3. Exterior Detail
  4. Interior and Exterior Package


:)
 

I do like the idea of doing a test spot right in front of the customer. I will try this out a few times and see if it works (if I have the time, ha). I most likely will keep a junk hood around with a 50/50 already done just to show someone the difference. Matter ah fact. I'll probably do multiple test spots to pin point the difference between 1,2, and 3 step. Thanks Mike, that article was helpful. :dblthumb2:
 
The black panel thing is a great idea and I have used it in the past. It's a pain to lug around but...you have a fixed location. Hang a big black hood on the wall with some great track lighting. Like a big piece of art you can show the different steps. At least customers might be curious enough to start asking questions. When their curiousity is peaked, pounce on em.
 
Why not take that same black hood and divide it up into sections, show the before, what an all in one achieves, and what 1-step, 2-step, 3-step, etc. achieves? This will give customers an idea of what you mean by each step and what the outcome could be.

Agreed, I just saw this post after I just stated that's what I wanted to do, ha. See...all great minds in here. You know what they say about great minds! :xyxthumbs:
 
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