What wheel cleaner for painted aluminum wheels?

I tried diablo on my chrome wheels and it didnt do anything. 5:1, I wet the rim down with water then sprayed Diablo on and let dwell for 3-5 minutes. I did not agitate to see if it would "lift" the dirt like CG states and I then rinsed and the wheel still looked filthy. Did not remove any dirt after rinsing. I did another wheel and used the Daytona Jr brush and it got a little more cleaner. Used a MF towel to dry and the mf was dirty after drying. Not sure if I did something wrong but I will be using my BF wheel cleaner next time.
 
I tried diablo on my chrome wheels and it didnt do anything. 5:1, I wet the rim down with water then sprayed Diablo on and let dwell for 3-5 minutes. I did not agitate to see if it would "lift" the dirt like CG states and I then rinsed and the wheel still looked filthy. Did not remove any dirt after rinsing. I did another wheel and used the Daytona Jr brush and it got a little more cleaner. Used a MF towel to dry and the mf was dirty after drying. Not sure if I did something wrong but I will be using my BF wheel cleaner next time.

Diablo Gel is pretty mild. Definitely wouldn't recommend it on wheels that are heavily soiled. Works perfect as a dedicated wheel cleaner for maintenance washes and it's nice to know it is safe for all wheel types. Plus it smells alright.
 
This is true for most road soils but not so for brake dust. Whilst it is not so common for you guys to do, in the UK we are bombarded by people spraying bleeding wheel cleaners onto their wheels to try to show the most significant bleed. The laugh of it is that these are often people who insist that regular cleaning need only be done with shampoo when the wheels are properly sealed. The fact of it is that it is almost impossible to stop brake dust, at several hundred degrees, from becoming embedded in the surface. Whilst I appreciate not everyone can afford to do this, to keep your wheels genuinely clean, you really need a mild iron removing product used on a regular basis. We recommend the use of one of our products diluted down and the proof is plain for all to see - the sealed wheel which is only cleaned with shampoo will bleed significantly a couple of months in whilst the wheel which is routinely cleaned by the pH neutral bleeding cleaner (diluted) shows very little reaction to the full strength iron remover.

As I mentioned, the primary reason not to do this has to be financial since this sort of maintenance washing will be more or less as harmless as washing with regular shampoo.
I disagree, I have C5 on my wheels and clean up is with soap and water and a little agitation.
 
I disagree, I have C5 on my wheels and clean up is with soap and water and a little agitation.

That is visual clean up. If you do 10k miles, clean up and hit them with Iron-X or other bleeding wheel cleaner, they will bleed. Otherwise the concept of 'decontamination' would have died with the introduction of products like C5.
 
That is visual clean up. If you do 10k miles, clean up and hit them with Iron-X or other bleeding wheel cleaner, they will bleed. Otherwise the concept of 'decontamination' would have died with the introduction of products like C5.
Is it not all about what the eye sees?
 
Is it not all about what the eye sees?

For your average joe, yes. To most on this forum, I do not think so. Much of the time, iron fallout on bodywork is not visible yet most people will seek to remove it. Iron fallout in particular is something that can turn into a runaway train, exactly like rust can do. We seek to get rid of it whilst it is practically invisible so that we don't have to deal with it when it is significant enough to do visible damage.
 
For your average joe, yes. To most on this forum, I do not think so. Much of the time, iron fallout on bodywork is not visible yet most people will seek to remove it. Iron fallout in particular is something that can turn into a runaway train, exactly like rust can do. We seek to get rid of it whilst it is practically invisible so that we don't have to deal with it when it is significant enough to do visible damage.
So should I use IronX after every wash?
 
So should I use IronX after every wash?

In an ideal world it would be a great approach. In the real world is it totally excessive.

The Wolf's product would be ok for regular use - much cheaper but since you use it frequently, it wouldn't matter. Even though I make bleeding fallout products, I wouldn't bother using every week. I probably give my wheels a quick go with the bleeding wheel cleaner once a month. No matter how well sealed they are and how clean they look, there is always a bit of bleed but doing it this way means that when you do a big clean once a year, there is very little in the way of bleeding and I strongly believe that I have less pitting as a result.
 
In an ideal world it would be a great approach. In the real world is it totally excessive.

The Wolf's product would be ok for regular use - much cheaper but since you use it frequently, it wouldn't matter. Even though I make bleeding fallout products, I wouldn't bother using every week. I probably give my wheels a quick go with the bleeding wheel cleaner once a month. No matter how well sealed they are and how clean they look, there is always a bit of bleed but doing it this way means that when you do a big clean once a year, there is very little in the way of bleeding and I strongly believe that I have less pitting as a result.
Griot makes a good inexpensive wheel cleaner..much cheaper than IronX or Sonax.
 
Griot makes a good inexpensive wheel cleaner..much cheaper than IronX or Sonax.

As far as I am aware, the griot product does not specifically target the oxidised iron particles which are the problem. Non-acid wheel cleaners predominantly target oily soils and have limited functionality on metallics. You could use the griots to clean the wheel but, again, micro deposits of brake dust will still occur. Non-acid wheel cleaners are remarkably similar to APC products - as you no-doubt are aware, APCs are similarly ineffective against iron/fallout. More than that, wheel cleaners are very typically much more aggressive than the bleeding products (often highly alkaline and even caustic alkaline). If you were using an acid based wheel cleaner, this would be another story. Acid cleaners will predominantly focus on metallic residues and will dissolve the brake dust and negate the need for iron-x or similar. Some fallout products work on this basis. However, acid products have their own drawbacks.

It all depends what you are wanting to achieve. I believe that is the difference between someone who wants a clean vehicle and someone who details their car.
 
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