what's the last car care/detailing video you've just watched?

Bunky said:
I watched 3 videos featuring a chemist. One was the recent video with Detail Co.'s chemist and the other two were with Christopher Gallahar (BnB Blending, Adam's chemist).
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Klasse Act said:
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A few of their comments...some were not surprising

- all traditional soaps are based upon 1 of 3 or 4 basic products (like Sodium Lauryl Sulfate). One said dilutions like 1:1500 are not likely effective They said they had many formulas for soaps. Some are very simple and others complex,
- for a low/high ph product (out of the bottle) it has to be formulated to not lose the ph when diluted so in bottle ph may not be final ph
- one said a traditional wash should be safer than a rinseless wash
- one stressed the difference between durability and longevity. Two product can be equally durable but one can last longer. This is in relation the concept of sacrificial layer.
- one stressed importance of water quality when diluting (can cause significant variation in performance) since if water has a lot of salt/minerals, the primary product can react with it and loose some effectiveness as a cleaner when used
- paint prep is a must for protection products (sealants, coatings) to work
- coatings come with a risk that requires a lot of work if you decide to remove it and has limitations on what can be used on top of it,.
- one preferred sheeting products but customers believe beading is the key so many products are designed to bead
- on said a wash and wax product is not likely to clean very well given you trying to leave something behind. He did not seem to like them
- how many misinterpret Msds sheets (where it is made, formula, etc). One uses a company in Germany to prepare so some have used as proof that some brands come from same manufacturer.

Both were devoid of marketing hype.
 
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Bunky said:
A few of their comments...some were not surprising

- all traditional soaps are based upon 1 of 3 or 4 basic products (like Sodium Lauryl Sulfate). One said dilutions like 1:1500 are not likely effective They said they had many formulas for soaps. Some are very simple and others complex,
- for a low/high ph product (out of the bottle) it has to be formulated to not lose the ph when diluted so in bottle ph may not be final ph
- one said a traditional wash should be safer than a rinseless wash
- one stressed the difference between durability and longevity. Two product can be equally durable but one can last longer. This is in relation the concept of sacrificial layer.
- one stressed importance of water quality when diluting (can cause significant variation in performance) since if water has a lot of salt/minerals, the primary product can react with it and loose some effectiveness as a cleaner when used
- paint prep is a must for protection products (sealants, coatings) to work
- coatings come with a risk that requires a lot of work if you decide to remove it and has limitations on what can be used on top of it,.
- one preferred sheeting products but customers believe beading is the key so many products are designed to bead
- on said a wash and wax product is not likely to clean very well given you trying to leave something behind. He did not seem to like them
- how many misinterpret Msds sheets (where it is made, formula, etc). One uses a company in Germany to prepare so some have used as proof that some brands come from same manufacturer.

Both were devoid of marketing hype.
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Sounds very interesting

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Our local Australian brand Bowden's Own, their snow foam and car shampoos contain ( No salt or silicone) i wonder if the other's do.
 
Brands like DIY are at the fore front of overpriced RTU 16oz bottles. You get a decent sprayer at least.

AND the initial market was noobs and suckers.

But these premium prices seem to be started by the likes of Carpro, Gyeon etc. Which have a shared history. In my time anyhow.

Its no secret my favorite 2 brands are 3D and Labocosmetica for concentrates. Other's out there like technicians choice.
 
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Going Mobile said:
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Well that video should get one thinking. Lots of common sense.
Agree that if using a product for the first time one should get the smallest size available. If it's everything you dreamed of them maybe move to the quart or gallon size.
 
BLM said:
Well that video should get one thinking. Lots of common sense.
Agree that if using a product for the first time one should get the smallest size available. If it's everything you dreamed of them maybe move to the quart or gallon size.
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DIY All clean is about $12 for 16oz RTU and 3D Orange Degreaser is about $22 for 128oz? Context dude. Mike Philips actually had me thinking 3D's orange degreaser is RTU its that cheap. Boy IMHO he's dead wrong. I could of mistaken his comments on the video i seen. Point being trust nobody that peddles detailing products for a living. LSP's are the biggest scam in detailing. In context of marketing claims and prices.

Compare anything from DIY, PAN and ADS to 3D. The prices are crazy for 3 companies that doesn't produce anything. Well its not crazy you are paying for the "brand" AKA Middlemen.
 
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Hobbit said:
DIY All clean is about $12 for 16oz RTU and 3D Orange Degreaser is about $22 for 128oz? Context dude. Mike Philips actually had me thinking 3D's orange degreaser is RTU its that cheap. Boy IMHO he's dead wrong. I could of mistaken his comments on the video i seen. Point being trust nobody that peddles detailing products for a living. LSP's are the biggest scam in detailing. In context of marketing claims and prices.

Compare anything from DIY, PAN and ADS to 3D. The prices are crazy for 3 companies that doesn't produce anything. Well its not crazy you are paying for the "brand" AKA Middlemen.
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Your really putting ADS in the same breathe as Pan & DIY, come on

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Hobbit said:
Brands like DIY are at the fore front of overpriced RTU 16oz bottles. You get a decent sprayer at least.

AND the initial market was noobs and suckers.

But these premium prices seem to be started by the likes of Carpro, Gyeon etc. Which have a shared history. In my time anyhow.

Its no secret my favorite 2 brands are 3D and Labocosmetica for concentrates. Other's out there like technicians choice.
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I have several favorites but it's because someone like Labocosmetica has a 3pH for both 2BM AND RW and they kick total a$$ When I need more effectiveness, either Preludios, paired with Feynlab or Carbon Collective will totally clean that paint like nothing out there! It's not that I don't like Idrosave but sometimes you need PURE clean, using either Preludio paired with Feynlab v3 RW or Carbon Collective nets THEE best results, it's not even close

You see, because of the above, you can't just stick with one brand, that's what's so great about other brands, they continue to fill a void in the market

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Klasse Act said:
Your really putting ADS in the same breathe as Pan & DIY, come on

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I mean I get there products are good and you appreciate the owners but he’s technically not wrong. High price 16oz bottles. The definitely are a boutique brand like DiY… just luckily for us no Ivan.


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