When doing a one step, what would you do in this situation?

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I did a one step on a black honda pilot. I decided to use D151. The car was swirled pretty bad. I did a couple of test spots with D151. The first was with a MF cutting pad, and the other with and a green B&S polishing pad. The MF pad removed all the defects, but left some haze. The polishing pad didn't remove nearly as many defects, but did not dull or haze the paint. So, what would you do if these were your only options, use the MF pad that left the paint defect free, but somewhat hazed? Or, would you use the polishing pad the left behind less, but still noticeable swirls, but did not haze the paint?

I'll let you now what I went with, but I'd first like to see other responses. :dblthumb2:
 
I'll take a stab, even though I've never got to machine polish anything yet.

With keeping with the theme of using the least aggressive product I'd stick with the polishing pad and work it a little longer, if possible. If not possible to work longer, I'd simply apply it a second time. With a product leaving a haze I'm going to have to go over it again anyway.

But I'm a newbie, and don't have a clue actually.

I've used this product by hand on one occassion some time ago. I sort of like it. I'd like to have about a 12 oz. bottle of it. I may order a 12 oz. sample size of it. I'd think it would have to be better than an OTC cleaner wax.
 
I'd go with the polishing pad. At least the paint would have better depth and reflection.
 
It would depend on what the customer wanted. Whenever i am paid for a job, I always agree with the results that will be acheived. With AIO you will always have something left on the table. Swirl marks will never be 1005 removed, hazing will still be left. As long as you meet the agreed correction.
 
I'd pick the polishing pad combo. It's clear they didn't want full correction or you wouldn't have been using a AIO. So make it shine and get what you can of the defects ..... Let the customer know if you want all the swirls gone it can be done. I hate paint with a haze, it always looks dirty no matter how clean it is ...... This is just my 2 cents you under stand!
 
I actually did a couple test spots(side by side) in front of the client with both pads. I did not point out anything, I just asked which side she thought looked better. She picked the side that I used the MF pad. I guess she didn't notice hazing/dullness. I think uneducated clients, for the most part, just want to see swirl free paint. So, I went with D151/MF cutting pad. I stated in the first post that I would let you know what I chose, but it was actually up to the client in this situation. I was just curious what you all would do if you were doing a test spot and you had to decide. :)
 
You may be on to something Mark. That's interesting.
 
I have seen pictures of what you guys call hazing. I know that if I hadn't spent the last 13 years paying attention to minute details, I wouldn't know what you were talking about. I think to the average person, slight hazing is not a big deal if seen at all.
 
This is kinda neat, Do two diffrent pads with an AIO, Have the owner pic what they like best. You repeat over entire car. Happy customer then pays hopefully leaving you a tip for your hard work.
 
Mark, How did it turn out? What would a potential customer that does know the difference think?
 
Did you follow up with anything after the MF? I was going to suggest the MF followed by a white CCS pad.
 
I would have gotten another pad. I don't really think you should have to make that big of a compromise on a one step. Most one steps I do end up being 75%-90% swirl free, and still have great gloss/shine/depth.

Or I would have turned the job into a two step. That’s just me.
 
If the only option is 1 step I would use a one step that left the car with a level of gloss I was satisfied with and removed at least all the light defects like swirls, etc. A tangerine hydro with a couple different products would be in my test spots also.
 
Flannigan said:
I would have gotten another pad. I don't really think you should have to make that big of a compromise on a one step. Most one steps I do end up being 75%-90% swirl free, and still have great gloss/shine/depth.

Or I would have turned the job into a two step. That’s just me.
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What pad would you have reached for after trying the polishing pad? I have LC orange pads, but they were all dirty at the time. :doh:

Like Corey mentioned in this thread, a tangerine pad would probably be a good option for 1-steps.
 
07 z-oh-6 said:
What pad would you have reached for after trying the polishing pad? I have LC orange pads, but they were all dirty at the time. :doh:

Like Corey mentioned in this thread, a tangerine pad would probably be a good option for 1-steps.
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I've been a huge fan of Cyan pads for one steps. They cut well ,and finish down great. Another option is the B&S Yellow pads. Both are great for one steps.
 
I generally use Orange LC pads with d151 as more of a gloss enhancement product. I would go with the polishing pad.
 
Garry Dean said:
I generally use Orange LC pads with d151
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Same here. I don't get a lot of correction out of the LC white pads and D151. The orange pad cuts nicely for a one step and finishes down nicely. Here's a shot of what D151 and an LC orange flat pad did to a 2010 Ford Escape with some swirling.

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Y2KSVT said:
Same here. I don't get a lot of correction out of the LC white pads and D151. The orange pad cuts nicely for a one step and finishes down nicely. Here's a shot of what D151 and an LC orange flat pad did to a 2010 Ford Escape with some swirling.

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Yeah, d151 needs that extra little bite from an orange pad. d151 and orange LC is the best combo Ive found to tone down defects and to dramatically enhance gloss. Besides, d151 wasnt designed to cut away all defects anyway.
 
Flannigan said:
I've been a huge fan of Cyan pads for one steps. They cut well ,and finish down great. Another option is the B&S Yellow pads. Both are great for one steps.
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I also have B&S yellow pads, but I forgot to take them with me. I rushed outta the house. Being that my orange pads were dirty, and I forgot the B&S yellow pads, I really put myself in bind for this detail. :doh:

Thanks Garry and Mark(pic) for your suggestions. If my orange pads would have been clean, I think they would have really helped when I was doing the test spots. :dblthumb2:

I was really unorganized for this detail. Doesn't usually happen this way.
 
You just reminded me; I have a few dirty orange pads out in my garage.

Once you clean a few of them up, I think you'll find they make a great combo with D151. Make sure to follow up on this thread with what you think, after you've tried it out!
 
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