Which glaze fills best?

I should add to be completely fair that the two products I mentioned are AIO's that have filling ability.


I was reading through this thread and wondering how many of these products are "true glazes" and how many just have the word in their name or description and are in fact one of the below,

Cleaner/Wax
Finishing Wax
Finishing Sealant


Big picture is... find something you like and use it often...

A true glaze is water soluble and won't last past a wash or two or rainy weather. If you're using a "glaze" that is "lasting", then you're really using some type of water insoluble wax or sealant.


Word Definitions - Compounds, Polishes, Glazes, Paint Cleaners and Waxes


:)
 
It's been at least 10 years since they went out of business.


Been a long time since I had some, (or even seen any)...
but I probably had the last of my stock of Liquid Ebony last for about 15 years or so...

Don't know about its actual recommended shelf-life...
:idea:

Buy all your local auto paint supplier has...

I'll take a couple of them off your hands if you do.
If for nothing else: "For old-times sake".

:)

Bob

I'm feeling pretty dumb-stupid right about now, as I stopped at two places this morning.

The local auto paint supply shop, and then NAPA. The paint supply shop owner said he never carried Liquid Ebony, never even heard of it, and then was onto NAPA, thinking that maybe I saw it there? Nope! LOL

Paint Shop Owner said maybe I saw it CARQUEST? Which I don't think so, and besides these three, we only have one O'Reillys, and one Autozone in town.

I'll check these places in time, but now I'm beginning to believe that I seen Bottles of Liquid Ebony in some dream?!

Am I getting that bad folks, that I need some serious "re-hab" program, that I'm dreaming about car care, and products in my sleep? LOL

I might be ready for the " Detailer's 12 step program" it appears!
Mark
 
I might be ready for the " Detailer's 12 step program" it appears!
Mark

STEP 1: FOAM
STEP 2: RINSE
STEP 3: 2BM
STEP 4: DECONTAMINATE
STEP 5: CLAY
STEP 6: COMPOUND
STEP 7: POLISH
STEP 8: WIPEDOWN
STEP 9: COAT
STEP 10: DRESS TRIM
STEP 11: COAT GLASS
STEP 12: FINAL WIPE

I think you'll be ok. :)
 
who said that?

I thought you did. You said to apply it after a wash prior to applying wax or sealant.

I assumed that it needed to be applied under a LSP but I wasn't certain. The directions on the bottle don't specify and I couldn't find any more info on the interwebz.
 
I might be ready for the " Detailer's 12 step program" it appears!
Mark

Just a measly 12 steps...That's nothing!!

$ 8800 car wash for your dream car by Paul Dalton
Car Wash Franklin | Car Wax | Miles: The Auto Spa
World’s Most Expensive Car Wash


THE 61 STAGES

1. Rinse vehicle with 30C purified water
2. Spray citrus degreaser on entire car
3. Repeat rinse
4. Wash top half of vehicle with pure warm water and shampoo
5. Repeat rinse
6. Wash top half of vehicle with pure warm water and shampoo
7. Repeat rinse
8. Spray citrus cleaner inside arches
9. Repeat rinse
10. Decontaminate paint and windows with clay mixed with secret solution
11. Repeat rinse
12. Wash entire car with pure warm water and shampoo mix
13. Repeat rinse
14. Dry vehicle with microfibre towels
15. Apply wheel cleaner and brush
16. Repeat rinse
17. Turn wheels 180 degrees
18. Reapply wheel cleaner and brush
19. Repeat rinse
20. Dry wheels
21. Dry door, engine and boot edges
22. Blow compressed air in cracks and towel dry
23. Measure all paintwork in microns (1/1,000mm)
24. Sand paint to remove orange peel, scratches and swirls
25. Sand paint to remove orange peel, scratches and swirls
26. Sand paint to remove orange peel, scratches and swirls
27. Sand paint to remove orange peel, scratches and swirls
28. Re-measure paintwork
29. Pre-wax cleaner to paintwork
30. Remove pre-wax cleaner with towel
31. Zymol Royale wax applied to paintwork
32. Remove wax
33. Buff windows
34. Windows cleaned inside and out
35. Interior vacuumed thoroughly
36. Clean interior trim
37. Clean and shampoo carpets and mats
38. Clean leather
39. Dry leather with cotton towels
40. Condition leather and buff
41. Clean interior with compressed air brush
42. Pre-wax cleaner to door edges
43. Condition and preserve door rubbers
44. Zymol Royale wax applied to door edges
45. Tyres dried to a satin finish
46. Exterior trim cleaned and conditioned
47. Clean wheels using clay mixed with secret solution
48. Clean and polish wheels
49. Pre-wax cleaner to wheels
50. Zymol Royale wax applied to wheels
51. Final buff with small cloth
52. Windows cleaned inside and out again
53-55. Additional Zymol Royale wax layer application, buffed twice
56-58. Repeat above wax application
59-61. Repeat final wax application

:D

Bob
 
According the rep guy I talked to over at Meguiar's.

No. 7 has no fillers he said something alone the lines of it containing oils.
 
wonder what the 'secret solution' in step #10 be?
NOTE:
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-If his clay is Sonus "green"...
-Then his clay-lube (secret solution) may just be: Zymol Auto Bathe/R.O. Water solution


Or: Disco Biscuits and Devil's Dandruff
peace.gif



-Sometimes I do wish I was English so I would feel more at ease while saying:
"Whilst I now be wadded-up from Detailing".


:D

Bob
 
According the rep guy I talked to over at Meguiar's.

No. 7 has no fillers he said something alone the lines of it containing oils.


The problem with this is some people consider oil as a filler and it can in fact fill.

It might not be a mechanical filler like Kaolin Clay, but anything, let me repeat that, ANYTHING that leaves itself behind on the surface if filling to some degree.

There's nothing wrong with this either depending upon your point of view and what you're trying to accomplish. #7 and products like this were meant to mask or seal fine hairline scratches.

You want proof? The original name of for #7 was...

Sealer & Reseal Glaze


By using the word seal, it didn't mean "Sealant" like a synthetic, water insoluble product, but to hide or mask hairline scratches. For example, Menzerna Power Lock is a true sealant.

By applying the #7 you could seal or mask hairline scratches and create a more beautiful finish on single stage paints. When you re-applied it down the road, you were re-sealing these hairline scratches.

Here's a picture that shows the change in the product name over time and I know the story behind this too...


M07Collection.jpg




:)
 
BlackHawk- Since you live close-by i can let you try my GlossWorkz on a panel or something. Just let me know!
 
well im looking for more of a product that i can easily use and can top it with a sealant/wax to prolong it. And im not too fond of super oily products :/ still appreciate all the advice Bob!

I know this is a bit different than what you are looking for but worth a mention anyway. Have you ever tried Prima Banana Gloss? Prima Banana Gloss Liquid Wax, car wax

It's not a glaze in the traditional sense but it goes on and wipes off very easily (in hot sun or shade) to a freshly washed vehicle in 10 minutes or so, lasts up to 2 months and fills like nobody's business. As easy as it is to use, I keep a bottle of it for any in and out quick wash and wax jobs I get.
 
The problem with this is some people consider oil as a filler and it can in fact fill.

It might not be a mechanical filler like Kaolin Clay, but anything, let me repeat that, ANYTHING that leaves itself behind on the surface if filling to some degree.

There's nothing wrong with this either depending upon your point of view and what you're trying to accomplish. #7 and products like this were meant to mask or seal fine hairline scratches.

You want proof? The original name of for #7 was...

Sealer & Reseal Glaze


By using the word seal, it didn't mean "Sealant" like a synthetic, water insoluble product, but to hide or mask hairline scratches. For example, Menzerna Power Lock is a true sealant.

By applying the #7 you could seal or mask hairline scratches and create a more beautiful finish on single stage paints. When you re-applied it down the road, you were re-sealing these hairline scratches.

Here's a picture that shows the change in the product name over time and I know the story behind this too...


M07Collection.jpg




:)

Thank You Mike your always full of data.

Appreciate it,

Art
 
I know this is a bit different than what you are looking for but worth a mention anyway. Have you ever tried Prima Banana Gloss? Prima Banana Gloss Liquid Wax, car wax

It's not a glaze in the traditional sense but it goes on and wipes off very easily (in hot sun or shade) to a freshly washed vehicle in 10 minutes or so, lasts up to 2 months and fills like nobody's business. As easy as it is to use, I keep a bottle of it for any in and out quick wash and wax jobs I get.

I contemplated buying banana gloss to go with the amigo on my D.D.'s. Some folks complained of longevity issues though. That would be another thread though. Sounds like a decent product for O.P. to get the filling effect he is looking for with some protection.
 
The problem with this is some people consider oil as a filler and it can in fact fill.

It might not be a mechanical filler like Kaolin Clay, but anything, let me repeat that, ANYTHING that leaves itself behind on the surface if filling to some degree.

There's nothing wrong with this either depending upon your point of view and what you're trying to accomplish. #7 and products like this were meant to mask or seal fine hairline scratches.

You want proof? The original name of for #7 was...

Sealer & Reseal Glaze


By using the word seal, it didn't mean "Sealant" like a synthetic, water insoluble product, but to hide or mask hairline scratches. For example, Menzerna Power Lock is a true sealant.

By applying the #7 you could seal or mask hairline scratches and create a more beautiful finish on single stage paints. When you re-applied it down the road, you were re-sealing these hairline scratches.

Here's a picture that shows the change in the product name over time and I know the story behind this too...


M07Collection.jpg




:)

Btw this came up with the Meguiar's guy when, I called them up for some info and on the side I asked them what would happen if I mixed no.7 with water to make it a spray.


Art :D
 
I contemplated buying banana gloss to go with the amigo on my D.D.'s. Some folks complained of longevity issues though. That would be another thread though. Sounds like a decent product for O.P. to get the filling effect he is looking for with some protection.

It's a great product for anyone who can't keep their hands off of their car.
 
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