Who's manufacturing the products we use?

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Quick question for ya Miguel,

There are so many products out there, especially with waxes. I've been a Pinnacle person ever since I was introduced to the line and I have no urge to seek any others. I'm just curious how many companies are actually independent self-contained manufactures. Like with major appliances, only 4 companies actually manufacture the merchandise and sell under different names. Or with auto clay, I've heard only a few companies or even one manufactures for everyone else. Is it the same with waxes and polishes as well? Does every little company in the detailing field have their own R&D chemists and production facilities to put out the quantity of products they sell?

Curious if you have any incite to this scenario? Guess it wasn't such a quick question.

Thanks and be well,

elliot
 
michelliot said:
Quick question for ya Miguel,
Does every little company in the detailing field have their own R&D chemists
and production facilities to put out the quantity of products they sell?
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Probably not the case for many of the little detailing products companies.
Optimum Polymer Technologies, Inc. is probably one of the verifiable exceptions.

:)

Bob (Yo no soy Miguel)
 
The truth in the UK is that very few manufacture. The extension to this is that some detailing brands, including examples now on the US market tell flat lies.

What does it matter? Well, it doesn't really. What matters is that the brand actually focuses on their products. As many know, the company I am with is actually a manufacturer which sells to wholesale, i.e. the brands you know. We encounter two types of brand, one which actually gives a brief which we match and tweak to spec, the other wants cheap and available tomorrow. I am sad to say that the latter appears to mean the money focuses on marketing and that means those tend to be the brands which get the biggest user following. What it has resulted in, IMO, is a lot or brands supplying very average products at elevated prices supported by nonsense marketing.

Really, what detailing needs, is to stop falling for fancy marketing, freebies, what your big name detailer always claims to be using and other sweetners and to focus on the products themselves and how they actually perform.
 
A lot of the silica coatings come from the same manufacturer in Singapore I believe. Also funny to see some products that are made in the states, shipped to the UK to the brand selling them and then back to the US division of the company to be sold to the consumer....

polishangel makes all of their products to order. they even come with a date tag when bottled. Usually it's the day or day after the order was placed.
 
Great info PiPUK. I've really started looking at things differently lately, especially after some of the findings on a particular polish.


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PiPUK said:
...We encounter two types of brand, one which actually gives a brief which we match and tweak to spec, the other wants cheap and available tomorrow. I am sad to say that the latter appears to mean the money focuses on marketing and that means those tend to be the brands which get the biggest user following. What it has resulted in, IMO, is a lot or brands supplying very average products at elevated prices supported by nonsense marketing.

Really, what detailing needs, is to stop falling for fancy marketing, freebies, what your big name detailer always claims to be using and other sweeteners and to focus on the products themselves and how they actually perform.
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Sad but true, I am in manufacturing and I see all of the above. That's why I spend hours on AGO forums to try and find out what is the best working product for my needs. Difficult at best!
 
I think chemical guys and optimum polymer make their own products. However, clay is usually made and contracted by other companies that we use here
 
Bill1234 said:
I think chemical guys and optimum polymer make their own products. However, clay is usually made and contracted by other companies that we use here
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Chemical guys are made by a company called warner chemicals
 
In addition to Optimum, 3D/HD formulates and produces their own products sourcing most of the raw chemicals from USA producers, but there are some raw ingredients that can only be obtained from non US sources.
 
^ 3D/HD have some wonderful products at very reasonable prices. who knows what other products some use on here that may be private labeled from them under a different company (not a bad thing). makes you think sometimes...
 
Who cares who manufactures it? Now who formulates it is different. I don't have a problem if company X makes a product and then goes to Manufacturer A to have it produced in large quantities. However, it would bother me if a company Y takes an existing product and gets it relabeled to sell at higher prices.

Now, I believe AMMO formulates all their own stuff, but I doubt Larry owns his own manufacturing facility.
 
goldendodo19 said:
Chemical guys are made by a company called warner chemicals
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I have heard this from multiple sources and I think it is commonly known that they are linked to many other brands.

I think that end users misunderstand the economics going on with their products - the manufacturers are not the ones making the big mark-ups! Unless your brand is large, it is often going to be cheaper to have the products manufactured by a 3rd party. This is the reason why Warner (and many other, actual, manufacturers) now sell direct, inspite of it being in direct competition with their primary customer base.
 
It's called private labeling. I sell packaging equipment and supplies to manufactuerer's and to distribution outelts and have for 23 years. I've been into all kinds of manufacturer's over my career, many who make different kinds of chemicals.
 
This is a 5 gallon bucket labeler I sold to a chemical company.

 
How about Mothers do they manufacture their own products?
 
SYMAWD said:
Who cares who manufactures it? Now who formulates it is different. I don't have a problem if company X makes a product and then goes to Manufacturer A to have it produced in large quantities. However, it would bother me if a company Y takes an existing product and gets it relabeled to sell at higher prices.

Now, I believe AMMO formulates all their own stuff, but I doubt Larry owns his own manufacturing facility.
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The manufacturer formulates it I bet, unless every detailing brand also has a chemist on staff mixing chemicals in a lab for them, LOL!
 
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