Why certain threads are deleted, while others left up?

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I'm hoping that some of you might be able to help me out here, as I'm having a hard time coming up with an answer. I'll preface this by saying that I tried to privately message "admin" back after a review thread of mine was deleted a couple weeks back, but have tried a few times since then and have heard nothing, so this was the only other place I figured I might be able to get a good answer.

So, I wrote up a review a few weeks back about a new coating on the market that I had the opportunity to try out since it's currently only available to professional detailers. (I'll avoid naming it since it's not sold through AG). I took a bunch of pictures documenting the process and posted up a big long thread to help inform all of you and it was met with good responses and one person adamantly saying it broke the rules. It did eventually get taken down, but the only reason I got from "admin" was "We've received several complaints that you're promoting products not sold at Autogeek."

Within the thread there was no "promotion", no links, nothing about where I got it, not even pictures of the product, only naming it and reviewing the product for others to learn about it, so I'm a little confused. There are countless threads on these boards reviewing other coatings not sold by AG that go into more detail about them including threads about OCPro Quartz Finest, CarPro Immortal, 22ple, Bulletproof, Gyeon, and who knows how many Turtle wax threads - none of which AG sells.

I'm confused where I "broke the rules" but these other threads didn't??? I also want to understand what could have been done to keep the thread up so that I don't waste my time with other future reviews that may get taken down.

Thanks for reading, and hopefully someone out there can help me out :D
 
I might suggest that you first review the forum rules under FAQ in the toolbar above. Moderating a forum is not always easy nor easily defined. You try to error on the side of caution and stay within the forum design. When you feel something is amiss, Admin is clearly the best contact and using a PM is best advice.
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
I might suggest that you first review the forum rules under FAQ in the toolbar above. Moderating a forum is not always easy nor easily defined. You try to error on the side of caution and stay within the forum design. When you feel something is amiss, Admin is clearly the best contact and using a PM is best advice.
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He did contact admin several times. It's the first thing he wrote
 
Kengo123 said:
He did contact admin several times. It's the first thing he wrote
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Thanks Kengo123

killrwheels@autogeek said:
I might suggest that you first review the forum rules under FAQ in the toolbar above. Moderating a forum is not always easy nor easily defined. You try to error on the side of caution and stay within the forum design. When you feel something is amiss, Admin is clearly the best contact and using a PM is best advice.
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I guess I figured that if others had posted threads with the exact same type of content I figured it was okay, I guess I assumed a little based off of what I observed was allowed.

And yes, I wanted to resolve it with Admin privately as I'd prefer to avoid this type of thread, but after almost two weeks without a response back, I felt like this was my only other option.
 
I remember your post, it was one of the most professional I have seen. The rules are not hard and fast as you have seen. Please keep posting. There are many here that appreciate a good review. Another possibility is Autopia, the sister site. It is a lot more freewheeling and members can speak their minds a little more freely. Good members are hard to find and Autopia is actively seeking members including those who were previously banned! About the only thing that would get you banned would be harassing another member and I can see you Sir are a serious detailer and a damn good one.
 
Complaining about getting caught for breaking the rules when other people break the rules but don't, is kind of like getting pulled over for speeding on the highway, and complaining that all the other people were doing it, too. You're just the one that got caught.

In the end this is Autogeek's forum, its purpose being to sell product--product that is sold at Autogeek.

As suggested, Autopia is supposed to still be an open forum, you shouldn't have any problem over there.
 
The rules of the forum are clear, but as you've noticed, there is variability in how/when those rules are applied. There's a nice thread about how 22PLE is a game changer, and that's been around for a while. I don't remember your thread, but you're right about reviews and posts about products that AG doesn't sell.

I suppose one way to go about it is to post what reviews you want to post within the guidelines of the forum. If you stray, don't be surprised if your thread gets locked or deleted.

(But I do understand your confusion and perhaps ire.)

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I also read your post/review from a week or two ago. I also read for the first time FAQ 2nd paragraph. I now know why your post was deleted. I would look for a different site that has more relaxed rules if it bothers you that much. Autopia is a good choice as mentioned above. But, there are many, many other viable internet detailing forums to choose from.
 
jmsc said:
I also read your post/review from a week or two ago. I also read for the first time FAQ 2nd paragraph. I now know why your post was deleted. I would look for a different site that has more relaxed rules if it bothers you that much. Autopia is a good choice as mentioned above. But, there are many, many other viable internet detailing forums to choose from.
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I'm glad you chimed in, he clearly posted the competitors name that sent him the product, that's why the post was deleted. I steered him towards Autopia too.

The rules of this forum are clearly noted at sign up and. It's pretty simple, it's an AG sponsored site. So just head over to Autopia and all is good. I personally don't feel the need to post about non AG products here.

Here's an irony for the OP, I won that sites Detaling Day Grand Prize last year and finished runner up this year, that's there and this is here. Im the MAN :buffing:
 

I think it has more to do with a thread or post being reported than it does with the product being discussed. But that is only my opinion from past experience.


Also think about some of the other threads still up. Some/most are about the pro coatings that AG carries the consumer brand of. This generates google hits and traffic to the site based on web searches for those products. So it's a win for them.



 
jarred767 said:
There are countless threads on these boards reviewing other coatings not sold by AG that go into more detail about them including threads about OCPro Quartz Finest, CarPro Immortal, 22ple, Bulletproof, Gyeon, and who knows how many Turtle wax threads - none of which AG sells.
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TroyScherer said:
Also think about some of the other threads still up. Some/most are about the pro coatings that AG carries the consumer brand of. This generates google hits and traffic to the site based on web searches for those products. So it's a win for them.
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I think that's very correct, there's going to be no heartburn discussing OC Pro or CarPro Finest...and I think Turtle Wax is considered to be a non-competitor ;)
 
Agree on your some threads do and don't, there's a few detailers that post here that list what they used and almost all of the items are not sold at AG. I'm not sure if it's favoritism or not but there's a lot of gray area.
 
Their forums, their rules. Not saying I agree with it but if you do not like it there are other forums with less stringent rules.
 
I just want to say.... If we are to prosper, grow, and educate are selves and each other than what sense is it if were controlled by what ag sells. I understand if its a competitor but product? I know im new here but i wasnt aware of that. Id like to see write ups about everything, not what big brother allows based on interest.
 
TroyScherer said:
I think it has more to do with a thread or post being reported than it does with the product being discussed. But that is only my opinion from past experience.
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vobro said:
Agree on your some threads do and don't, there's a few detailers that post here that list what they used and almost all of the items are not sold at AG. I'm not sure if it's favoritism or not but there's a lot of gray area.
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As noted, all the moderators here have other jobs, so most of their moderation is as a result of reported threads (that's my observation, anyway, however accurate or inaccurate that may be). I don't believe a moderator is reading every post, or every thread, for that matter. Now the NSA...that's a different story.
 
onsite said:
I just want to say.... If we are to prosper, grow, and educate are selves and each other than what sense is it if were controlled by what ag sells. I understand if its a competitor but product? I know im new here but i wasnt aware of that. Id like to see write ups about everything, not what big brother allows based on interest.
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That's a rather naïve take on the subject. Everything is about money, someone pays for the server to host this forum, the bandwidth, the software, etc. etc. The owner is, no surprise, going to have something to say about what goes on here.

I guess if you want a forum devoid of a big brother/owner, maybe you should start your own forum. I'll join, if that helps.
 
Just create a new title, and post it all over gain...Maybe this time it will be overlooked.

Who was the joker that was ragging on you for breaking forum rules? Unless they work here, why would anyone WANT to be a whistle blower on a product review? I'm more interested in the guy policing the forum...I'm all for removing the inappropriate, but putting in a call to 5-0 for a product review is waaaaay too mall cop.

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vobro said:
Agree on your some threads do and don't, there's a few detailers that post here that list what they used and almost all of the items are not sold at AG. I'm not sure if it's favoritism or not but there's a lot of gray area.
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Bingo!:dblthumb2:
 
Interesting comments and thank you all for chiming in.

Trust me, I understand the hard line reasoning why my thread was deleted (a product that AG doesn't sell - and no, custmsprty, I did not post anything about where I bought the product from, only the name of the coating and nothing more). Like I mentioned in the original post, I was more confused why my thread was taken down while others left up, but after reading what everyone's said, I see it probably has more to do with the one whistle-blower than anything I said in the review.

Trust me, I love AG and all the amazing info and usually pretty good discussion on here, and I have no intentions of leaving, I was just looking for clarification. Im thankful that you guys have helped in the clarification process and helped me realize the fact that it's a decent sized grey area.
 
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