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I received a personal message asking this question. Other forum members might have the same question, so I'm posting my response here for everyone else to see. :xyxthumbs:

Hello Nick,

I have the Wolfgang Finishing Glaze 3.0 and the Wolfgang Paintwork Polish Enhancer. I just don't exactly know what order to use them when finishing up a detail. I did Uber Compound>Total Swirl Remover>Perfekt Finish Paint Prep>Deep Gloss Sealant 3.0. My concern was that if I used the Finishing Glaze that the oils wouldn't let the sealant adhere to the paint or if I used the Finishing Glaze followed up by the Paint Prep that it would remove the glaze properties. As far as the Paintwork Polish Enhancer, I am just fully lost one what to do with that one.
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Wolfgang Finishing Glaze is an ultra-fine finishing polish. It is designed to be used as the last step in paint correction. You would normally use it after Uber Compound or Total Swirl Remover.

Wolfgang Paintwork Polish enhancer is a non-abrasive pre-wax cleaner. It is designed to be used on a vehicle that does NOT have any swirl marks or scratches. You use this before applying Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant or Wolfgang Fuzion.

Wolfgang Perfekt Finish Paint Prep is a coating-prep spray that removes polishing oils, finger prints, waxes, and silicone oils that would otherwise prevent Wolfgang Uber Ceramic Coating from bonding to the surface. This product is only necessary when you plan on coating the vehicle.

Here's the correct step for the products you outlined.

1. Uber Compound
2. Finishing Glaze (Total Swirl Remover is fine too, but Finishing Glaze will create more gloss)
3. Perfekt Finish Paint Prep (not completely necessary for application of the sealant, but it's not going to hurt)
4. Deep Gloss Paint Sealant
5. Fuzion Wax

Maintain all-of-the-above with Wolfgang Auto Bathe and Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz.

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Wolfgang Perfekt Finish Paint Prep: Does this paint cleanser also remove synthetic sealants? If so, why aren't these paint cleansers mentioned more often when people constantly ask if it's ok to wash with Dawn to remove wax? It seems like a light machine polishing is the most common advice given by forum members as far as the way to ensure a previous coat of wax or sealant is fully removed prior to applying a fresh lsp.
Are these paint cleansers like this Wolfgang spray, McKee's Coating Prep Polish, and others grossly overlooked?
 
Eldorado2k said:
Wolfgang Perfekt Finish Paint Prep: Does this paint cleanser also remove synthetic sealants? If so, why aren't these paint cleansers mentioned more often when people constantly ask if it's ok to wash with Dawn to remove wax? It seems like a light machine polishing is the most common advice given by forum members as far as the way to ensure a previous coat of wax or sealant is fully removed prior to applying a fresh lsp.
Are these paint cleansers like this Wolfgang spray, McKee's Coating Prep Polish, and others grossly overlooked?
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Great questions. I'll break it down:

Eldorado2k said:
Wolfgang Perfekt Finish Paint Prep: Does this paint cleanser also remove synthetic sealants?
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Technically it will, but it might require several applications. Remember the intended purpose of this product is to remove polishing oils, fillers, etc - most of which are water soluble. It's not going to completely remove a strong sealant as well as a dedicated pre-wax polish (ie: Wolfgang Paintwork Polish Enhancer). Plus, a pre-wax cleaner will remove all sorts of contaminants like embedded dirt and road film.

Eldorado2k said:
If so, why aren't these paint cleansers mentioned more often when people constantly ask if it's ok to wash with Dawn to remove wax?
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Using DAWN is embedded in the minds of old-school detailers. DAWN is designed to cut through grease (like they show on the commercials) but more often than not it leaves a nasty film on automotive paint. This film essentially hinders the beading characteristics of the underlying wax or sealant, so while you *think* it removed the wax, it has not. In my experience, DAWN is also a pain in the butt to completely rinse off a car. I prefer to use DAWN for cleaning dishes.

Eldorado2k said:
It seems like a light machine polishing is the most common advice given by forum members as far as the way to ensure a previous coat of wax or sealant is fully removed prior to applying a fresh lsp.
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That's because pre-wax cleaners work better to ensure the previous coat of wax has been completely removed. Pre-wax cleaners also removed embedded dirt, road film, very light imperfections, etc.

Eldorado2k said:
Are these paint cleansers like this Wolfgang spray, McKee's Coating Prep Polish, and others grossly overlooked?
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No, because they are intended for a very specific application in which we educate our customers on (via the forum, website, blog, etc). I will say that McKee's 37 Coating Prep Polish is not only overlooked, but often used incorrectly as well.

McKee's 37 Coating Prep Polish is an excellent pre-wax cleaner that also doubles as a suitable prep for a paint coating. It has outstanding paint-cleaning abilities. The most common mistake people make when they apply it is using too aggressive of a pad or too high of a speed on a DA polisher. For that reason, I recommend applying it by hand using a soft foam applicator pad. It works like a charm. :xyxthumbs:
 
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Nick@Autogeek said:
That's because pre-wax cleaners work better to ensure the previous coat of wax has been completely removed. Pre-wax cleaners also removed embedded dirt, road film, very light imperfections, etc.
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Thanks for the detailed reply, Nick.

I only have 1 small question. I had mentioned that the most common advice seems to be a light machine polish [with a finishing polish], not with a pre wax cleanser.
Am I reading that part wrong? Or did you mean to explain that part the way you did? Thx.

Also, are both Wolfgang Perfekt Paint Prep and McKee's Coating Prep Polish both classified as "paint cleansers" and able to accomplish the same end result?
 
Nick, why use fusion wax on top of a sealant? Shouldn't the sealant be the protectant?

I can understand some drivers like the look of carnauba so maybe that is the reason.
 
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Eldorado2k said:
Thanks for the detailed reply, Nick.

I only have 1 small question. I had mentioned that the most common advice seems to be a light machine polish [with a finishing polish], not with a pre wax cleanser.
Am I reading that part wrong? Or did you mean to explain that part the way you did? Thx.
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Here's the deal....

When it's time to re-wax your car, the chances are pretty good that there's going to be some light marks from washing it, drying it, using detail spray, etc. For that reason, most enthusiasts and perfectionists will use a very light finishing polish instead of a pre-wax cleaner. The reason is to remove the light marks, which a finishing polish will definitely accomplish.

Eldorado2k said:
Also, are both Wolfgang Perfekt Paint Prep and McKee's Coating Prep Polish both classified as "paint cleansers" and able to accomplish the same end result?
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They accomplish the same goal if you're referring to the fact that they both remove polishing oils that would otherwise prevent a coating from bonding, but like I mentioned in the other post McKee's 37 Coating Prep Polish also has GREAT paint cleaning abilities because it's a polish (compared to Wolfgang which is a spray).
 
Nick@Autogeek said:
Maintain all-of-the-above with Wolfgang Auto Bathe and Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz. :dblthumb2:
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Could you also use Fuzion Spray Wax instead of the Spritz? and would Fuzion Spray Wax be a "booster" for Uber Ceramic?
 
Wow, this a like a wayback machine for me. When I first bought my 300SRT there was a "chat" feature on the Autogeek store page. I used it to ask the same question. In fact I think it was Nick who helped me. He suggested TSR-Finishing Glaze-Polish Enhancer before I applied my Fuzion. I used that process and it was nothing short of spectacular. I still have everything but the polish enhancer as I now prefer coatings.
 
RatZ1LLa said:
Could you also use Fuzion Spray Wax instead of the Spritz? and would Fuzion Spray Wax be a "booster" for Uber Ceramic?
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I would personally use the spritz to maintain Uber Ceramic Coating.
 
Thanks for the info on the paint prep products, I thought they were for coatings.

I just applied Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0 and I can't believe how smooth and slick the paint feels. I have to stop myself from going out in garage and caressing my truck. lol

What is the most damaging to a sealant/wax? Besides the sun and rain, I would think that driving around with all the dirt/dust in the air probably does a good job of abrading whatever is protecting the paint.
 
Nick - what are your thoughts on using the PBL coating booster on top of Wolfgang Uber Ceramic coating? Maybe as a 'booster' before winter kicks in?
 
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