Dont use Aquawax as a drying aid... It will cloud your paint...

[FUNX650]

Wax itself can yellow/discolor after a few months from UV and tend not to look great. I'm not making this up as something that sounds legit, I read it from one of the guys from Dodo Juice who posted it - I just can't recall where.

This isn't the DoDo Juice posting, but it's similarly "themed":

One of my favorite Barry Meguiar quotes regarding carnubas is:

Quote:
"In the old days, there was a great reliance on carnauba wax, which was the hardest natural wax available.
Fifty years later we have synthetic waxes, polymers and resins that have far more resilience than carnauba and enhance the gloss.

Interestingly, carnauba (which people still want to see in a product) actually grays the surface of a vehicle."
End Quote


-Also, I remember not too long ago, that the subject of wax build-up through layering was a hot topic.
Now it seems layering is the hot topic with little or no regard to the build-up issue.

Bob

 

[MrOneEyedBoh]

There are always 2 sides of every story. To the op if your going to quote a response how about quoting your questions so everyone can draw their own conclusions.

Aqua Wax has gone from high praises to "I'm not going to use and or don't use it" in just a few days, Really?

I have never had any " clouding" using AW. Altho I don't wash my personal vehicals every week, but when they do get washed I do use AW as a drying aid with no "clouding of the paint".

DG921 (fast clean and shine) is another great product from DG and one that if you use a quick detailer I would highly recomend trying it.

DG921 as a drying aide yep it works very well....but mixing with AW I'll wait from DG HQ's reponse myself.

Any product from DG works and very well, as do most other products if used while following the manufacturer's directions.

It's really about common sense folks.

Just my .02

Whatever man. I talked to DG myself. If you want to "prove" me wrong, then do it. Because you wont... Everyone else took what I said no problem, its what DG said and I posted it. Since you're crying I'll screenshot the convo, hows that?

 

[ski2]

Does Aquawax even contain any carnuba or true "wax?" I thought it was all synthetic.

http://www.duragloss.com/documents/MSDS 951,952.pdf

 

[MrOneEyedBoh]

Here is the screenshot for dad...

 

[pld]

What if we cut 50/50 aquawax and distilled water?I bought a lot of this stuff and love using it on my black paint after a wash.

 

[MrOneEyedBoh]

What if we cut 50/50 aquawax and distilled water?I bought a lot of this stuff and love using it on my black paint after a wash.

I asked that and they said no, dont do that. You can see the first part of the question in the screenshot above.

Do you believe me? Or is another screenshot warranted: Im the MAN

 

[MarkD51]

From my uses of Aquawax, one time I used it as a drying aid, on a wet vehicle (mine)

I didn't jump through hoops after, didn't note any special advantages in my eyes, thus, I'll most likely never use it again this way. I did see streaking, and smearing, making me work harder to remove.

As a detailer spray, yeah, this is how I've been using it, "after" a wash, and the vehicle is dry. This is where I like it, note no buildup, seems to easily remove any evidence of slight water spotting that the towel doesn't eliminate (like any good detailer spray should IMO), leaves a clean clear finish behind. Even on glass.

To me, that's a good indicator, that I'm seeing no films left behind on my glass.
Mark

 

[pld]

I asked that and they said no, dont do that. You can see the first part of the question in the screenshot above.

Do you believe me? Or is another screenshot warranted: Im the MAN

Yes, I believe you, Thank's.:dblthumb2:

 

[Bunky]

Does Aquawax even contain any carnuba or true "wax?" I thought it was all synthetic.

I doubt it. Wax is a word that mean anything..just like polish.

 

[MrOneEyedBoh]

They never said why not to, but the gallon of 921 is only 25ish bucks. So I figured with the gallon of AW I have and then cut it with 921, I'll have a lot of drying aid to use up. Plus I'll have some straight AW for whenever.

 

[MarkD51]

I asked that and they said no, dont do that. You can see the first part of the question in the screenshot above.

Do you believe me? Or is another screenshot warranted: Im the MAN

Doesn't that equally equate to using it as a drying aid, where it becomes diluted in the process?

What's the difference of diluting it in the bottle. or diluting this product when sprayed upon a wet vehicle?

 

[spiralout462]

using AW weekly is overkill and i tend to use it every other wash or so...

:iagree:

Maybe once a month or so for me.

 

[MrOneEyedBoh]

Doesn't that equally equate to using it as a drying aid, where it becomes diluted in the process?

What's the difference of diluting it in the bottle. or diluting this product when sprayed upon a wet vehicle?

Thats what I was thinking/thought.... Not according to DG. What they said to NOT do was dilute it 50/50 with distilled water. What we can do is dilute AW and their 921 product. OR use the 921 product solely as a drying aid and use AW once a month to boost your wax.

:iagree:

Maybe once a month or so for me.

I was using it as a drying aid. Maybe do as well.... But again doesnt make it right.

 

[BillyJack]

The only way I'll stop using such a great product is when Duragloss stops making it!! :laughing:

Me too!
Haven't tried 'em all, just Optimum, Meg's and DG, but AW tops my list. maybe I'm not using it enough to cause any visible issues, but since most of my washes are with DG Rinseless with AW, I don't feel compelled to use it every single wash. I do have some FC&S coming, so I'll give that a try just for grins.

Bill

 

[dad07]

Whatever man. I talked to DG myself. If you want to "prove" me wrong, then do it. Because you wont... Everyone else took what I said no problem, its what DG said and I posted it. Since you're crying I'll screenshot the convo, hows that?

Who's crying? Not me. And as far as proving you wrong, I have no need. If you don't like my .02 that's on you.

I never said you where wrong.....


As far as your convo link to DG my phone dosen't compute for some reason.

We are a family of folks that take things to the extreme.

If you don't like my .02 that's fine...

Good day sir.

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

Excellent info!!

 

[RTexasF]

Where you failed is in your research. In spite of the name Aquawax is a sealant not a wax. It will mute flake and some colors if used too often. Don't believe me? Call them as I did to confirm what I've said. This is not news at all and has been discussed in detail in the past.

 

[Tato]

I had an opinion on this since reading the thread's subject, but I was CAREFUL enough to read through entire thread before coming here for the $0.2 cents myself.

What OP is experiencing is not an AW-only related problem,

To illustrate,

My DD is coated with Pinnacle Black Label, and after 5-6 months of coating I saw the need to renew my coating because of what was looking 'embedded dirt' accumulated overtime.

I was not experiencing a deficit in beading or sheeting properties, it was just because the same 'cloudiness' that's subject in this thread.

I was regularly using Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Wax as a drying agent.

To get rid of cloudiness, I've done a non-abrasive polishing using Pinnacle Black Label Surface Cleansing Polish on a finishing pad.

The build-up was removed in ~3-4 passes per section, and the coating returned to it's clean state. The whole car was cleansed in less than an hour. That means this 'problem' also has an easy manner to be solved.

*If the vehicle in question is not coated, using a cleansing polish will remove not only the wax build up but also underlying paint protection, so after doing this you'll need to RE-APPLY your LSP.

However, for a non-coated vehicle, I'd use a polishing pad with the cleansing polish to get advantage of even more cleansing power. In my case I've used finishing pad just because I wasn't willing to abrade my coating in any manner.


In my opinion, using an abrasive such as M105 like suggested is overwhelming. No need to get that far just because of wax build up.


That said, after experiencing this build up some time ago, I've stopped using Meguiar's Quik Wax as drying agent, but that doesn't means product is bad, it's just because I was making a bad use of it. Now I use it sparingly, like it's intended to be used.

Using sparingly, I believe this problem will not be an issue, but regular use (like I was doing) will probably will end up in cloudiness in some time.

To notice, my car is a Metallic Black DD, which is great for showing cloudiness. Maybe I won't see it on a light color vehicle (but that doesn't means it won't happen).

The DG who answered the email was an honest person who I admire saying the truth about its own product. It may build up and cause cloudiness, but this is not just AW, it's mostly many spray Wax you may apply in excess (like Meg's UQW I've related above), and for an extended period of time.

I just don't like to see things going personal since we have the privilege here to complain about an issue and get answers directly from companies representatives.

I also see this people as imparcial regarding their products, they know it's advantages and disadvantages enough to come here and give an honest opinion around it.

Don't want to get any longer (since I also wanted to comment on layering which is a subject I research and test a lot!), but that's subject for another thread.

Looks like it's time for a cleansing polish procedure over your wax build up!

Hope that helps,

Kind Regards.

 

[Klasse Act]

I'm not refuting the OP, especially since he provided info from DG themselves, but I've never had this issue when using AW but then again I use it as a stand alone product and not a drying aid, maybe its why I've never had the issue.

On a sidenote I was told I could infact use AW on my DGNCC after 6 monthes and that it would darken my paint, we'll see how it goes at that time!

Sent from my SPH-M930 using AG Online

 

[FUNX650]

On a sidenote I was told I could infact use AW on my DGNCC after 6 monthes and that it would darken my paint, we'll see how it goes at that time!

Let's hope that the darkening of your paint will not be/isn't due to:

So I seen that someone said using DG Aquawax as a drying aid will eventually cloud your paint. Sure enough, they were right. I emailed DG today and this is what they said:

Using Aquawax once a week can caused a buildup and cause your paint to look dull after a while.

If you want to use a weekly drying aid we recommend using 921, Fast Clean and Shine, which is a spray on and wipe off formula. Then you could still use Aquawax once a month without worrying about a buildup.

Thank you,
Duragloss

Wouldn't want to have your Black Metallic paint ever become dull/muted/grayed-out...
in any way, shape, or form!

Nor the metallic paints on any of our vehicles;
Or ones of other folks, as well.

Bob