Show & Shine: 2014 Toyota Tundra w/ DISO!!!! - When dealership attack!!!!!

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Finally catching up on downloading my pictures and organizing them. I had alluded to this upcoming Show and Shine in one my previous threads, and true to my word here it is!

The Subject: 2014 Black Toyota Tundra TRD (less than 8 months old)

The Story: This nice couple was referred to me after what they described as a "rather unpleasant experience with a local dealership". According to their account, they ran over a branch which kicked up and made a sizeable dent in the rear passenger quarter panel. Being that the truck was almost brand new they did not want to drive it with this big blemish on the side. They made an appointment with the bodyshop at a local dealership and had the truck repaired. The wife picked up her truck and drove it home. Upon returning from work the husband noticed horrendous swirls and immediately contacted the dealership. Long story short the body shop attempted to correct the defects on 2 separate visits, even going as far as being supervised by the GM of the dealership. Unfortunately they could not satisfy the customer and could not remedy the issues noted. As a show of good customer service the GM offered the option for the client to find a place that could take care of it to their satisfaction. After a couple of phone calls to locally owned body shop, they were given my name. This is rather weird as I have never really marketed those guys, but lets say I was flattered and excited.

I initially met with the husband who made sure to position the truck with the passenger side in direct sun light. I walked out of my office and literally took a step back at the sight even though the truck was 20 feet away in my parking lot. I wish I had pictures of the truck that day because it was both horrific and mesmerizing. Go ahead and find the worst example of rotary hologram online and it was worst. Unfortunately I did not have my camera with me, and the day I took the truck in was overcast, so never got a good picture. Anyway, we inspected the vehicle together discussed what needed to be done and I gave him an estimate to give to the dealership. As you may imagine, the initial contact with the dealership was not the friendliest. Because my name would be associated with this mess I wanted to make sure that it was done right! The GM asked that I only do the passenger side (since they buffed from the rear quarter to the front fender to "blend") and only wanted to be charged for that work. I explained to him that I could not in good conscience only do 1/2 the vehicle, since this project would now be linked to my name and reputation. It was explained that I did not have a problem taking on the liability of fixing the defects ONLY if I was allowed to make the whole truck perfect. After a few exchanges he did reluctantly agree to pay for a full correction on the full vehicle (because his mishap did open him up to liabilities). A few days later I did swing by the dealership to pick up the payment, met with the GM, discussed what I do and how I do it, and even dropped off some coating literature (I know funny!!). The wheels were in motion!!

First step was to take PTG readings. The truck averaged about 90 microns, but had readings as low as 57 microns. You can also see the thickness of the repair and repaint ;)

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So what did the paint look like?? I do not have the full hologram view of that day but I do have a few pics and a video under the LEDs. Under normal shop lighting things did not look too bad, but under LEDs (the no-lie lights) it was BAD!!!!!

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Note on the pictures that you have a combination of scratches and swirls, rotary hologram and some weird speckling/scuffing. You can also see the the body lines where HAMMERED!!! I guess they don't tape them before putting the rotary/wool on!?! The 50/50 was pretty dramatic but left a nice DA haze behind

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You can see in the reflection that I was using my Flex 3401 with a Meg MF + FG400, finishing with my Rupes 21 + black LC flat pad and Reflect (for the win)

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The finish product after removing the tape and before the final wipedown

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The client selected a paint sealant as the LSP, the main reason was that the agreement with the dealership was for the polishing work ONLY and that anything else was on their dime. So here are the glamor shot AFTER!!

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In all we invested close to 18 hrs in this truck and cannot begin to tell you how thrilled the couple was. Unfortunately for me the GM had no desire to see the final results, so I can only hope that he gets a chance to visit my FB webpage and sees the result for himself. I am not diluted in thinking that I will be flooded with work from the dealership because I do charge a premium for what I do (compared to their hourly detailing guys), but you never know ;)

Thanks for looking! I can't wait to see what you guys have to say :P
 
I could not embed the video for some reason so feast you eyes on the before and after video below (BTW, I LOVE my Flex inspection light)

[video=youtube_share;kwg35x9My3E"]2014 Toyota Tundra - BEFORE[/video]
[video=youtube_share;UYoMERT_XNI"]2014 Toyota Tundra - AFTER[/video]
 
wow heck of a job that truck was a mess. 57 microns! What process did you use to correct that area?
 
Wow, how did a 8month old truck get so trashed!!!

Nice work man.
 
Excellent work as usual Claude! I can see why the owners were thrilled, it looks amazing. Thanks for sharing :dblthumb2:.
 
wow heck of a job that truck was a mess. 57 microns! What process did you use to correct that area?

Unfortunately had to take the same approach as everywhere else on the truck. What I do in these case is I break it down to 2 pass, inspect and PTG and keep going until I am happy with the results (without much regard for UMR)

Wow, how did a 8month old truck get so trashed!!!

Nice work man.

The truck was trashed in part by

1) the bodyshop (rotary and wool pads),
2) followed by an attempt at the detailing shop (I guess in an attempt to remove compound oils!?!), not knowing they were holograms,
3) and then back to the bodyshop for a second round with the rotary.

(and I would assume a quick trip to the "tunnel of swirls")

Excellent work as usual Claude! I can see why the owners were thrilled, it looks amazing. Thanks for sharing :dblthumb2:.

Thanks Frank! I love when a customer stays 45 minutes gawking at their car, asking tons of questions and just thanking you and shaking your hand.
 
Amazing results AS ALWAYS!! That truck looks like it should now. Fantastic job, always enjoy seeing your work.
 
Beautiful job. That transformation was amazing. Maybe the customer will take the truck to the dealer to show what they expected when they took it in to be fixed.
 
Great work Claude! Hope my 2010 Tundra will look half as good as that after I coat it next month. What sealant did you use for LSP?
 
Claude brother... you said this one was going to be special, but uhh... to put it in words... CarMomma just said; "GOOD GOD!"

It never ceases to amaze me just how BAD a "professional" body shop is at what they do. :rolleyes:

Y'all really knocked that one out in a hurry, looks awesom.:dblthumb2:
Good catch on that drivers door too! Hope you sent the owner home with those paint readings, that 57 mill one 'twas a wee bit scary. :)

Really wish the GM had been willing to take a minute out of his terribly important :rolleyes: day.

Then again... when it gets to the GM's, Sales Managers and the like; "Don't know, don't care, don't want to know, will NEVER know!" :dunno:

I had something similar last year where the body shop manage at a Hennessy dealership referred me to GEICO, which had a Jag at an Abra body shop. I know, weird right? ;) They had to deliver it via rollback because it'd barely run. A week later, correction and coating, it went back looking a LOT better than when it came. (Then came back a month or so later to have the hood done (again) as they'd repainted it, AGAIN.) :laughing:
 
Dear Claude,

I've read you mentioning about an upcoming thread that would make us experiment a huge mix of feelings, and here we are...

As always, we open your threads with huge expectations (even higher now that you over promised), and you didn't disappointed - In fact, you over delivered.

If I had to list what I like most about your work, 'Professionalism' and 'Confidence' would be right on top of it. You not only show us perfect detailing / polishing results, but a true class of conduct and self esteem as Detailers.

Accepting such challenge and achieving such results with mostly everything against you only reaffirms you're one to be admired, and followed.

Please, keep on the enthusiasm to share the work you are doing, it's inspiring. Thanks a lot for taking your time.

Kind Regards.
 
Great work Claude :xyxthumbs:

Even though they generally can't afford you, I'm sure you'll occasionally get some return business from that dealership in the future, after they've messed up someone else's car!
 
Amazing recovery work, Mr. Tremblay! The swirls seemed very deep, and with the thin paint, you sure walked on thin ice, especially on the doors panels!
You used meg's mf cutting disks, I suppose. You should try the Menz 300 as well, though with less pressure in the first couple passes so the product breaks up a bit.
You saved the car for sure, and brought back happiness in the customer's life, after the huge disappointment of buying a brand new DISO installed car. All the best!
 
WOW that paint was trashed. Awesome turn around Claude - thanks for sharing!!!! :dblthumb2:

Just such a pity that the guy from GM wasn't interested in seeing what properly polished paint should look like.
 
Great save. the 5x microns area scared me as well...

Yup, very interesting areas to work on and places that definitely slow down production to a creepy crawl

Amazing results AS ALWAYS!! That truck looks like it should now. Fantastic job, always enjoy seeing your work.

Thanks Corey, I know I did well when the customer reiterated at least 4 times that the truck looks better than the day they bought it ;)

Beautiful job. That transformation was amazing. Maybe the customer will take the truck to the dealer to show what they expected when they took it in to be fixed.

HAHAHA!! They did "threaten" to do just that, which I do discourage, since instead of showing excitement and wanting to share in their joy, the gesture would generate to a "IN YOUR FACE you incompetent BLEEP BLEEP"

Great work Claude! Hope my 2010 Tundra will look half as good as that after I coat it next month. What sealant did you use for LSP?

I have no doubt that if you take your time and perfect your test spot that you can get results better than what I am showing in this thread. Although the truck look great, I have to admit that I was not 100% satisfied and would have loved to have had another 4 hrs built in to my quote.

As for your question regarding sealant I don't know if I should reveal my secrets..... but I will. On a freshly compounded vehicle I only offer 2 options to my clients #1 Coating (professional grade or consumer grade) or #2 Reload. The fresh substrate does lend itself so well to a durable SiO2 based sealant, and nothing less should be applied. On non-compounded vehicles I do apply other sealants but not on compounded vehicles.

Claude brother... you said this one was going to be special, but uhh... to put it in words... CarMomma just said; "GOOD GOD!"

It never ceases to amaze me just how BAD a "professional" body shop is at what they do. :rolleyes:

Y'all really knocked that one out in a hurry, looks awesom.:dblthumb2:
Good catch on that drivers door too! Hope you sent the owner home with those paint readings, that 57 mill one 'twas a wee bit scary. :)

Really wish the GM had been willing to take a minute out of his terribly important :rolleyes: day.

Then again... when it gets to the GM's, Sales Managers and the like; "Don't know, don't care, don't want to know, will NEVER know!" :dunno:

I had something similar last year where the body shop manage at a Hennessy dealership referred me to GEICO, which had a Jag at an Abra body shop. I know, weird right? ;) They had to deliver it via rollback because it'd barely run. A week later, correction and coating, it went back looking a LOT better than when it came. (Then came back a month or so later to have the hood done (again) as they'd repainted it, AGAIN.) :laughing:

I completely agree with you Tony (on both the GOOD GOD and the lack luster interest from the dealership to see this to completion). Your story about the jag makes me think....."What would I have done in your shoes?". I think I would have told those guys to fix and sell the car and send the customer with the jag to my shop rather than to fix it and coat it and deliver it back in the hands of the evil dealership where it would live molested daily LOL!

Dear Claude,

I've read you mentioning about an upcoming thread that would make us experiment a huge mix of feelings, and here we are...

As always, we open your threads with huge expectations (even higher now that you over promised), and you didn't disappointed - In fact, you over delivered.

If I had to list what I like most about your work, 'Professionalism' and 'Confidence' would be right on top of it. You not only show us perfect detailing / polishing results, but a true class of conduct and self esteem as Detailers.

Accepting such challenge and achieving such results with mostly everything against you only reaffirms you're one to be admired, and followed.

Please, keep on the enthusiasm to share the work you are doing, it's inspiring. Thanks a lot for taking your time.

Kind Regards.

Rafael, your comment reads like a inspirational book!! Comments like this definitely flatters and further encourages me to take the time to post those rather long Show and Shine or Product reviews. I may show a little favoritism but.... I think your comments are some of the one I look forward to reading ;)

Great work Claude :xyxthumbs:

Even though they generally can't afford you, I'm sure you'll occasionally get some return business from that dealership in the future, after they've messed up someone else's car!

You may be right, but I am not holding my breath ;) I definitely did not call the GM and his team incompetents etc... so did not slam the door on my thumbs, although they did not see and perhaps will never see the return on their "investment". If the opportunity does present itself I will gladly work jointly with them on future projects which may be a little tricky for their shop to handle.

Wow. Great save! Superb work!

Thanks buddy!

Amazing recovery work, Mr. Tremblay! The swirls seemed very deep, and with the thin paint, you sure walked on thin ice, especially on the doors panels!
You used meg's mf cutting disks, I suppose. You should try the Menz 300 as well, though with less pressure in the first couple passes so the product breaks up a bit.
You saved the car for sure, and brought back happiness in the customer's life, after the huge disappointment of buying a brand new DISO installed car. All the best!

Thanks for the comment! I am a HUGE fan of Menzerna products and 300 has been on my radar, but before trying it I have the Shine Supply Flat Top to experiment with. I hope to be able to do a side by side test of Flat Top, Menz 400 and Scholl's S3XXL which I really like :)

I did use the Meg's MF cutting disc but the repair had to be hit with LC purple wool pad (the clear was that hard)

Looks like they sanded it, no?

I don't think they did a sanding job on the truck in an attempt to fix the hologram. I would suspect they used a clay towel (which a local guy sells without much instructions... and they are cheap), and they tried to "detail" the defects rather than to "fix" it. I guess they don't know about lubricity and just scuffed it? That would be my best guess. I did not see sanding marks and their orange peel was almost factory, so the bodyshop know what they are doing on the painting side of things but may not be as good with polishing/detailing (or maybe had some new guys). I did probe for information but the GM was backing his "experienced" staff to a fault (I guess to avoid the liability of saying that he had some inexperienced peeps in the shop). Under normal lighting you really saw the hologram but barely saw the scuffing, but under the LEDs it looked (insert puking sounds and gagging on puke!!!)

Wow, that was bad. Nice recovery, looks amazing!

Thanks Derek!

WOW that paint was trashed. Awesome turn around Claude - thanks for sharing!!!! :dblthumb2:

Just such a pity that the guy from GM wasn't interested in seeing what properly polished paint should look like.

I agree with your Lawrence. I do wish that they "wanted" to follow the process and customer through but I guess they look at this experience as a blemish on their reputation they would rather forget.... the sooner the better.
 
Wow! Are you kidding me Claude!? This write and the quality of work that went into it as well as the documented pictures are epic! That is nothing less than a Flawless Finish in the black paint. I feel you went above and beyond (not that you wouldn't) to make certain you maintain your good name.

Thanks for sharing that in depth story that goes along with this write up. Truly gives the reader a feel for how this job went on.

Hoping you get a bit more work through this body shop channel that found you as a premium detailer. Imagine having some custom painted vehicles with an inch of clear to work with!
 
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