Desertnate
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You need to. She may be hooked once she gets the hang of it.
I taught my oldest daughter from the start. She is now a manual "lifer" too.
Roll Call! Who drives a MANUAL transmission?
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You need to. She may be hooked once she gets the hang of it.
I taught my oldest daughter from the start. She is now a manual "lifer" too.
Jaretr1
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My garage queen is a manual. I have also only driven manuals until my current daily driver which is an Accord EX-L V6 coupe. While in general I prefer manuals myself, I went with the automatic in the Accord because I sit in a lot of stop and go traffic in my commute, and it was extremely frustrating with a manual. An auto makes the traffic a lot less stressful.
In the case of the Accord, the auto gets about 3mpg better fuel economy than the manual, and gives up nothing to it in performance.
In the case of the Accord, the auto gets about 3mpg better fuel economy than the manual, and gives up nothing to it in performance.
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While this thread is interesting, and us car enthusiasts prefer shifting our own gears, the sad truth is manuals are slowly becoming a thing of the past. It used to be a manual got better fuel economy and outperformed an automatic. That is not the case anymore. Autos are more fuel efficient and can out accelerate a manual in most cars. And top performing autos shift quicker than any human ever could.
Some of the highest performance cars only come with automatics. Cant get a manual in a Ferrari anymore. Porsche GT3 I believe only comes with an auto. And if you have a BMW M3 or M4 with a manual, be prepared to be smoked by the auto version at a stoplight
Some of the highest performance cars only come with automatics. Cant get a manual in a Ferrari anymore. Porsche GT3 I believe only comes with an auto. And if you have a BMW M3 or M4 with a manual, be prepared to be smoked by the auto version at a stoplight
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Manual in my 2011 Mustang GTCS.
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2004 Copper S (6 speed)
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While this thread is interesting, and us car enthusiasts prefer shifting our own gears, the sad truth is manuals are slowly becoming a thing of the past. It used to be a manual got better fuel economy and outperformed an automatic. That is not the case anymore. Autos are more fuel efficient and can out accelerate a manual in most cars. And top performing autos shift quicker than any human ever could.
Some of the highest performance cars only come with automatics. Cant get a manual in a Ferrari anymore. Porsche GT3 I believe only comes with an auto. And if you have a BMW M3 or M4 with a manual, be prepared to be smoked by the auto version at a stoplight
All very true.
I love driving my MT but no way I can shift faster than the automatic version of my car. I've driven both.
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While this thread is interesting, and us car enthusiasts prefer shifting our own gears, the sad truth is manuals are slowly becoming a thing of the past. It used to be a manual got better fuel economy and outperformed an automatic. That is not the case anymore. Autos are more fuel efficient and can out accelerate a manual in most cars. And top performing autos shift quicker than any human ever could.
Some of the highest performance cars only come with automatics. Cant get a manual in a Ferrari anymore. Porsche GT3 I believe only comes with an auto. And if you have a BMW M3 or M4 with a manual, be prepared to be smoked by the auto version at a stoplight
I think it's important to differentiate between a true auto (i.e. with a torque converter) and a dual clutch automated manual (e.g. DSG, PDK etc).
In my book, DSGs, PDKs etc are still manuals since they still have a clutch(es) and not torque converters. They just happen to be controlled by, or assisted by a computer.
What you said above is true for dual clutch automated manual transmissions, but generally untrue for traditional torque converter autos.
My everyday "get-it-done" vehicle which I pretty much have only to steer is a Toyota Sienna with. of course, automatic. I DRIVE, actually am really engaged with the machine, a 6-speed manual 2010 Porsche Cayman S only on Sundays so that it is always a special treat. Ham Mason (Splashboy)
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That's the only way to travel in a Mustang! Way cool and you have great taste in cars too!!
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I think it's important to differentiate between a true auto (i.e. with a torque converter) and a dual clutch automated manual (e.g. DSG, PDK etc).
In my book, DSGs, PDKs etc are still manuals since they still have a clutch(es) and not torque converters. They just happen to be controlled by, or assisted by a computer.
What you said above is true for dual clutch automated manual transmissions, but generally untrue for traditional torque converter autos.
No, I am going to stick with it as far as for the most part all autos. Check the specs of even mundane cars that offer both transmission options (manual and automatic) and even ones with conventional torque converter autos still get better mpgs than the manual now. And high performance cars with standard autos, mercedes AMG's, the Corvette etc shift super fast.
And while you are correct that a automated manual is a manual controlled by computer, since there is no clutch pedal and no shifter, its an automatic!!
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I think it's important to differentiate between a true auto (i.e. with a torque converter) and a dual clutch automated manual (e.g. DSG, PDK etc).
In my book, DSGs, PDKs etc are still manuals since they still have a clutch(es) and not torque converters. They just happen to be controlled by, or assisted by a computer.
What you said above is true for dual clutch automated manual transmissions, but generally untrue for traditional torque converter autos.
Sorry have to disagree. Automatics, DSG and PDK have only 2 pedals. ALL are controlled by a computer. A manual has 3 pedals. The (3rd) clutch pedal differentiates the auto, dsg or pdk. As someone said before and I am stealing what he said because it is true...
You drive with a Manual and you Steer with an auto.
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AnthonyGXP
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There's transmissions other than manual!? WHAAAT! NO WAY! LOL
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Yes sir. That is right.
I see many on here knocking the automated manual transmissions and thinking they are of the normal torque converter style transmissions when in fact they are electro/hydraulic clutch style transmissions. Sure they may function like an automatic in the way that you can put them in gear and just drive it but that is where the similarities end.
Another key advantage of this style transmissions is the programmable shift patterns from comfort like to firm enough that you feel like the diff will explode with each rapid fire gear change. Not to mention the having launch control built in that will always allow the car to take off as quickly as possible each and every time.
I have driven enough laps around the Nurburgring in my 6MT 335i to know the feeling of "being connected" to the vehicle/track. Heck, I have even taken an F16 pilot around the track as a passenger and scared him silly. However with the constant lefts and rights, elevation changes in quick succession, passing vehicles or being passed, it can be a real challenge to get the 'ol brain to process everything and make your body follow suit with what needs to be accomplished.
With the DCT, PDK, DSG, etc. it will allow you to really focus more on the task at hand without fear of the "money shift".