D114 dilution ratio - please confirm.

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I ordered D114 and its on the way. Can't wait to use it this weekend. Before I do I just want to confirm that I have the dilution ratios down. Can someone tell me what is the ratio to strip LSP, and if I should mix something else into it? Also how do I mix D114 with D156 to create something similar to D115?

Rinseless Wash
  • Extra dirty cars – 128:1
  • Normal dirty cars – 256:1
Waterless Wash
  • Normal dirty – 128:1
Detailer Spray
  • 128:1
Strip LSP

Clay Lube
  • 256:1
Residual compound/polish removal
  • 15:1
 
Pretty sure its not meant to "strip LSP" 14:1 is what Ive heard MP and Mr Rose from Meguiars say about panel cleaning.
 
dcjredline said:
Pretty sure its not meant to "strip LSP" 14:1 is what Ive heard MP and Mr Rose from Meguiars say about panel cleaning.
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I left "Strip LSP" blank in my original post. As I understand it. 15:1 is to remove residual compound or polish.

So I'm still looking for the dilution ratio for stripping LSP.:buffing:
 
SwiftTone said:
I left "Strip LSP" blank in my original post. As I understand it. 15:1 is to remove residual compound or polish.

So I'm still looking for the dilution ratio for stripping LSP.:buffing:
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6:1
 
SwiftTone said:
As I understand it. 15:1 is to remove
residual compound or polish.
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Yes...
D114, @15:1, can be used as a "panel wipe".

SwiftTone said:
I left "Strip LSP" blank in my original post.

So I'm still looking for the dilution ratio
for stripping LSP. :buffing:
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I'm going to clarify that D114...even @ the higher
concentration/"stripping-strength"...shouldn't be
considered as an all encompassing "LSP stripper";
rather, as being diluted to:"Wax Stripping Strength".

And that would mean that D114's dilution ratio for
consideration as a "Wax stripper" is between:
4:1—6:1...(per: Meguiar's spokespersons).



Bob
 
FUNX650 said:
Yes...
D114, @15:1, can be used as a "panel wipe".


I'm going to clarify that D114...even @ the higher
concentration/"stripping-strength"...shouldn't be
considered as an all encompassing "LSP stripper";
rather, as being diluted to:"Wax Stripping Strength".

And that would mean that D114's dilution ratio for
consideration as a "Wax stripper" is between:
4:1—6:1...(per: Meguiar's spokespersons).



Bob
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Excuse my n00b-ness. So I can't use D114 4:1-6:1, then apply wax afterwards? I should use something else that is dedicated for stripping wax?

Alternatively, if I clay along with D114, wouldn't I remove wax? If using this method, what dilution should I use?
 
Claying at a higher higher dilution ratio will not strip wax. If it did none of us would be using it at this dilution ratio.

At dilution ratios around 6:1, 15:1, D114 will be grabby. By the way at this dilution it would be recommended to have it in a spray bottle.

How recent was the previous application of wax?
 
The Guz said:
Claying at a higher higher dilution ratio will not strip wax. If it did none of us would be using it at this dilution ratio.

At dilution ratios around 6:1, 15:1, D114 will be grabby. By the way at this dilution it would be recommended to have it in a spray bottle.

How recent was the previous application of wax?
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Higher dilution is like 128 or 256:1 right? Lower is 6:1 or something?

What if I did a wipe down with D114 at 6:1, then clay using 128 or 256:1? Will that remove wax?

Last application of wax was a month or so ago. It was done by a detailer who used 1 coat of Collinite 476S. I feel like he didn't do a good job because water beading isn't that great. I used Meg's Ultimate Quick Wax last week after a wash and the beading action is much better. So I'm thinking of rewaxing the car.

But the purpose of this thread is to get all the dilution ratios down so I can reference to it without having the search of it in the future.
 
You are correct.

You could try doing a wipe at 6:1 to remove anything and then proceed to claying or you could do the opposite. Wash, clay, strip and seal.

If you are going to polish then no need to strip since polishing will remove the previous layer of wax.
 
I agree with you but let him play around with D114.

I would actually use a some sort of pre-wax cleaner unless I am following up with the same wax product. Then I would wash, clay and wax.
 
The Guz said:
I would actually use a some sort of pre-wax cleaner unless I am following up with the same wax product. Then I would wash, clay and wax.
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Yeah, so would I (depending) but he's already put UW on top of 476S, and plus it doesn't really sound like he's equipped/prepared for that...since he just took the car to a detailer a month ago.

If it's a typical "detailer" who knows what the prep was, just claying might make a world of difference.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Yeah, so would I (depending) but he's already put UW on top of 476S, and plus it doesn't really sound like he's equipped/prepared for that...since he just took the car to a detailer a month ago.

If it's a typical "detailer" who knows what the prep was, just claying might make a world of difference.
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Hmmmm, I thought that I need to remove old wax before applying new wax. So what you guys are saying is that if I am using the same type of wax then there is no need to completely remove the old wax? I was planning on using 476s anyways so if this is the case then it'll be convenient.

The detailer did a wash, clay (while washing), compounded a few spots that I pointed out, polished the whole car, and applied wax. The paint feels really smooth to my n00b handles. You won't believe what he charged me.

So this is my first new car and I sent it out for the detailer to do this work so I can have a good foundation to build on. I'm not really equip to do any type of machine work; both knowledge and hardware. I was afraid to mess up my car!
 
Oh, so you supplied the 476S. You'll get a lot of different opinions, but IMO people get too excited about this "stripping" idea. And if the car was clayed a month ago it probably doesn't need it again (depending on your local conditions, of course).

I'd just wash it and wax it again. If you really want you can use that D114 at 15:1 before you wax--I'd dry it really well after that or consider doing some sort of rinse--I think D114 residue might be more of a hinderance to bonding of your LSP than the other LSP, but maybe I'm just crazy.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Oh, so you supplied the 476S. You'll get a lot of different opinions, but IMO people get too excited about this "stripping" idea. And if the car was clayed a month ago it probably doesn't need it again (depending on your local conditions, of course).

I'd just wash it and wax it again. If you really want you can use that D114 at 15:1 before you wax--I'd dry it really well after that or consider doing some sort of rinse--I think D114 residue might be more of a hinderance to bonding of your LSP than the other LSP, but maybe I'm just crazy.
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No. I was talking to him in the shop as he was switching from polishing to waxing and I saw his wax.

I waited to get my car detailed and watched the whole process done on my baby through the window in the waiting room.

I'll probably do a wax on it next month, and another in October before winter.
 
Swift, try a 1:32 (or super foamy 1:24) for wheel cleaning & maintenance.

It's what I've been ding for the past few weeks. Foams up nicely. Watch how it chase a week's worth of build-up even before hitting spokes with a brush.

I don't even need to agitate my calipers most of the time. Spray caliper. Watch brake dust runs off. Self-dry spotless. Love it.

A 32oz mixture lasted me 5-6 sets, and I was spray happy. Would have lasted much more had I taken the Sonax route.
 
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