Sealant comparison

[RippyD]

Hate to say it but I kind of hope many of them fail early so I can try other stuff.

 

[minerigger]

Do either of you know where CG Jetseal stands compared to WGDGPS 3.0? Same price point so am curious on longevity or ease of use. Is CG all hype and people just drink the koolaid or does it actually work? I've seen lots on the WG but I'm curious

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[Cruzscarwash]

Do either of you know where CG Jetseal stands compared to WGDGPS 3.0? Same price point so am curious on longevity or ease of use. Is CG all hype and people just drink the koolaid or does it actually work? I've seen lots on the WG but I'm curious

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I like to call Chemical Guys "carshow Chemicals" by that I mean they look amazing for the show but by the time it's over, so is the product. They have the initial POP but I've never had any luck with durability with anything from them. I wouldn't say I drank the Kool aid but I like to try as much as I can get my wallet on.

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[minerigger]

I mean there is a difference spending money on a product to test it vs buying it because everyone says it's going to save the planet..hence drinking the koolaid lol

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[Cruzscarwash]

I mean there is a difference spending money on a product to test it vs buying it because everyone says it's going to save the planet..hence drinking the koolaid lol

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For me it's because I live in the desert and I'm always trying to find the best product that works in my environment but I always do want a standby product that's going to give that amazing shine even if just for a short term for cars that I do four shows and things like that so I try to have a little bit of both while still trying to keep my products minimal

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[VETLAG72]

Hope you get better results with groits sealant, it was one of the first to go for me in my AIO test

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If I remember right the Griot's that failed for you was the BOSS sealant though, right? Griot's themselves told me that the " sealant" in that doesn't last (see attached pics). They really shouldn't have called it a sealant - that's why I'm waiting to see what the All-In-One does is certainly they claim longer protection from it. I used the All-In-One a couple weekends ago and was very happy with the deep gloss on my black truck.

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[Cruzscarwash]

If I remember right the Griot's that failed for you was the BOSS sealant though, right? Griot's themselves told me that the " sealant" in that doesn't last (see attached pics). They really shouldn't have called it a sealant - that's why I'm waiting to see what the All-In-One does is certainly they claim longer protection from it. I used the All-In-One a couple weekends ago and was very happy with the deep gloss on my black truck.

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Yes, I used the BOSS sealant

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[VETLAG72]

Yes, I used the BOSS sealant

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I love Griot's products, but I don't know why they would make the "sealant" in the BOSS line so subpar

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[Cruzscarwash]

I love Griot's products, but I don't know why they would make the "sealant" in the BOSS line so subpar

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I agree, EVERYTHING about the BOSS like is supposed to be superior

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[RippyD]

Yes, I used the BOSS sealant

If this stuff needs to be heat activated it's not going to do well in my testing. I did a fast application with a Megs yellow foam applicator. It took a while to dry if that's any indication.

Do either of you know where CG Jetseal stands compared to WGDGPS 3.0?

No idea. If I see some on the Samples thread I'll offer a trade. Four test spots are opening up on the Sentra hood. I have some other short-term products to try there, but those should be done in 1-3 weeks.

 

[ScottH]

Guys not sure why some of you are not seeing longer protection from the BOSS Finishing Sealant. Along with 360, it's predominantly the only other AIO I use on friend's or neighbor's cars. I always Clay first but get a bare minimum of 3 months out of it - and these are cars that only get love when in my driveway - if you know what I mean. Always applied by machine with 4-6 passes and wiped off often sitting 20 or so mins while I work on the next panel. Are there longer lasting AIO's? Sure but this one is no slouch in my experience.

ScottH

 

[VETLAG72]

Guys not sure why some of you are not seeing longer protection from the BOSS Finishing Sealant. Along with 360, it's predominantly the only other AIO I use on friend's or neighbor's cars. I always Clay first but get a bare minimum of 3 months out of it - and these are cars that only get love when in my driveway - if you know what I mean. Always applied by machine with 4-6 passes and wiped off often sitting 20 or so mins while I work on the next panel. Are there longer lasting AIO's? Sure but this one is no slouch in my experience.

ScottH

Griot's themselves say 2-3 months, yet their All-In-One Sealant says "up to one year", so I'm just questioning why they made the sealant in the top of the line BOSS line inferior to the cheaper One-Step-Sealant. I'm not bad mouthing Griot's by any means, I absolutely love their products and have a garage full of their products lol. To me a sealant should last 6 months or more. If I want 2-3 months protection I'd use carnauba for the deep gloss

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[Eldorado2k]

I reviewed the Boss Finishing Sealant some time ago... It doesn't last, and that's putting it nicely.

Interesting 50/50 test results..

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?sh...et/forum/showthread.php?t=102548&share_type=t

 

[ScottH]

Griot's themselves say 2-3 months, yet their All-In-One Sealant says "up to one year", so I'm just questioning why they made the sealant in the top of the line BOSS line inferior to the cheaper One-Step-Sealant. I'm not bad mouthing Griot's by any means, I absolutely love their products and have a garage full of their products lol. To me a sealant should last 6 months or more. If I want 2-3 months protection I'd use carnauba for the deep gloss

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Your question is legitimate (re: BOSS Finishing Sealant having less protection than their stand alone All-In-One Sealant, especially when in the BOSS lineup your expectation is that you are getting the best). Maybe Griot's never intended Finishing Sealant as an LSP considering they have PolyWax (lots of durability), Best of Show Liquid, Best of Show Paste and Premium Wax. I don't know.... BTW I am not in any way disagreeing with your findings. I for some reason have seen more durability but have to say it is no where near as durable as McKee's 360. 360 probably would last 360 days for a well kept car. I've seen it last 6+ months on a really, really neglected car.

ScottH

 

[VETLAG72]

Your question is legitimate (re: BOSS Finishing Sealant having less protection than their stand alone All-In-One Sealant, especially when in the BOSS lineup your expectation is that you are getting the best). Maybe Griot's never intended Finishing Sealant as an LSP considering they have PolyWax (lots of durability), Best of Show Liquid, Best of Show Paste and Premium Wax. I don't know.... BTW I am not in any way disagreeing with your findings. I for some reason have seen more durability but have to say it is no where near as durable as McKee's 360. 360 probably would last 360 days for a well kept car. I've seen it last 6+ months on a really, really neglected car.

ScottH

I completely agree

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[RippyD]

Sentra hood seems to have completely failed on sheeting. We had 4-5 days of hard rain (local flooding) and I suspect this did them all in. Even with the rain I'm surprised. I don't have an update for the Rover hood. Too many shadows in the pics and with the white hood you can't see anything. Will try again in a couple of days.

When I checked the Sentra hood a few days ago I rinseless washed it with N-914. I saw no sheeting. Wash it again and dried it. Barely saw something. I washed it again with Carpro Reset and got the action shown below:

This a couple of seconds after hitting it with water:

This is a few seconds later:

This is how it looked yesterday - this is about 5 seconds after hitting it with the hose.

(Reminder to ignore the upper left - I reapplied something there.)

I'm surprised some of these didn't last longer. Any chance this is a prep issue? I used Ultimate Polish and then cleaned with two wipe downs of Gyeon Prep. Maybe not enough to get rid of the oils/fillers in UP?

Results:
Blackfire: < 1 week
Sonus Spritz: < 3 weeks
AW: ~3 weeks
Opt Spray Wax: 3-4 weeks
CarPro Reload: 4 weeks
PA Cosmic Spritz: 4+ weeks

 

[RippyD]

Stole a few minutes to get a Rover hood update. Wasn't sure when I'd be able to get another update posted.

Second pic was ~10 seconds after water was turned off (est):
Relative performance:

• Water flying off: Collinite, FK 1000, Track Claw, DG 111, and Sonax PNS
• Moving fairly quickly: DG 105, Optiseal, Paintguard+. Shedding all the water, but not immediately
• Slow, but working: Sonus Ion, Mystery sealant, WG DGS, and Sonus Acrylic Glanz. Will try to time these next update
• Water not moving: Griot's One Step

 

[MattPersman]

It’s plausible that the ultimate twins are sweating out or releasing the oils carriers or whatever after several hours not allowing the LSPs to bond

Would think that prep would work

Almost have to polish let it ride for a couple days. Wash a couple times with a soap that doesn’t add anything. Then Gyeon prep, clay, body shop wax remover or whatever then LSP to see if the results are different.



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[RippyD]

I'm guessing almost none of us let polish ride for a couple of days. Pros certainly can't do that.

Here's what I'll do: will redo a couple of the same products after I polish the hood. Will prep, wait day or two, wash, prep again, then apply. Will see if the durability for those couple of products changes.

Actually... redoing a couple of products every time I reapply to a panel would be a good consistency check.

EDIT: I also have McKee's coating prep polish. Could just use this as one-stop product remover or prep. Also DG Squeaky Clean. Either of these are probably the best option.

 

[Nix]

Dont think you need to clay it again if you did it before. worth doing iron decon if you have not done it before this test...polish it again and try one of these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBvSC3ITDjQ
i dont like any IPA product which has dyes and scents in it..Used optimum paint prep which worked well now using dupli color(Cheaper)..