Gimmie your two cents.

[opie2]

I didn't mention a quick detailer initially either because I don't think they have NEAR the cleaning ability or the ability to "encapsulate or whatever" dirt like more modern WW formulas

Even just an ONR mix at WW/QD would be better than an old school quick detailer

I know this is what a QD was supposedly for but why take about 15 steps back

I think of a QD as more an indoor product for the lightest of dust, not crap accumulated driving to an event

My thoughts as well

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[briarpatch]

To me....dusty and dirty are two different things. If it's dusty, Gyeon Ceramic Detailer....if it's dirty.....quality rinseless wash.....plus clean, plush microfibers in either case

 

[chilly]

To me....dusty and dirty are two different things. If it's dusty, Gyeon Ceramic Detailer....if it's dirty.....quality rinseless wash.....plus clean, plush microfibers in either case

Exactly

 

[Coatingsarecrack]

Thanks crack, ill check that out. Dont think ive ever heard of it

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Also it was formulated to work outside in warm weather. Most shows gonna be outside and in warmer weather. Most detailer (Ech20 sycks if panels warm or warmer weather).

Agree with others. My recommendation is for car that’s been washed last 2-4 days in summer and just dusty.

Me personally though, I would rinseless. Get a 2 gallon bucket with a gamma seal lid. Make it before trip, bring 10 MF towels. If not to dirty/dusty no pretreat really needed.

I’m guessing these are big Riggs? would be easier as your bot spraying the entire vehicle down with a trigger sprayer.


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[opie2]

Also it was formulated to work outside in warm weather. Most shows gonna be outside and in warmer weather. Most detailer (Ech20 sycks if panels warm or warmer weather).

Agree with others. My recommendation is for car that’s been washed last 2-4 days in summer and just dusty.

Me personally though, I would rinseless. Get a 2 gallon bucket with a gamma seal lid. Make it before trip, bring 10 MF towels. If not to dirty/dusty no pretreat really needed.

I’m guessing these are big Riggs? would be easier as your bot spraying the entire vehicle down with a trigger sprayer.


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Thats weird, because i had a similar thought earlier about a bucket with gamma seal and rinseless, small pump sprayer etc

Yes to this being a semi. But also pertains in general to all

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[chilly]

Thanks chilly. And i just put this up at mikes forum too as some folks are there and not here. Im guessing thats who you were alluding to lol. I had forgotten about that place

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Hey Opie

I just saw Mike's response so maybe it actually was him that was talking about show car guys damaging their paint trying to clean it up, and to just leave it alone

 

[Silly Rabbit]

Todd at Esoteric said the same in a video a couple years ago. Just leave it and wash it later. I think he said something to the effect of he would rather own a dusty/dirty car with paint in great shape than a really clean car with paint that has swirls and/or scratches.

 

[Eldorado2k]

Todd at Esoteric said the same in a video a couple years ago. Just leave it and wash it later. I think he said something to the effect of he would rather own a dusty/dirty car with paint in great shape than a really clean car with paint that has swirls and/or scratches.

I was going to say him^
I remember him saying that because of how much I disagreed with him. He said it in such a way that it was condescending. I didn’t like the way he said that.

…And then he went on to make that video where he’s hand washing that blue Ford GT and that video is full of errors like who the hell makes that many mistakes washing a car. I was practically yelling at my screen like this guys supposed to be an expert? Give me a break…

 

[opie2]

Hey Opie

I just saw Mike's response so maybe it actually was him that was talking about show car guys damaging their paint trying to clean it up, and to just leave it alone

I dont know buddy. I cant say i would leave it alone. But i would not touch the paint in a way that would be damaging

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[chilly]

I dont know buddy. I cant say i would leave it alone. But i would not touch the paint in a way that would be damaging

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Don’t shoot the messenger



I think what you meant to say is people like us COULDN’T leave it alone



But hopefully we would find the gentlest possible way to deal with it


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[chilly]

I was going to say him^
I remember him saying that because of how much I disagreed with him. He said it in such a way that it was condescending. I didn’t like the way he said that.

…And then he went on to make that video where he’s hand washing that blue Ford GT and that video is full of errors like who the hell makes that many mistakes washing a car. I was practically yelling at my screen like this guys supposed to be an expert? Give me a break…

I have had the exact same “what the he!!” moments with some of the stuff he says




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[SNP209]

They would make a online purchase of a gallon of something if i recommended it

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If that's the case then a gallon of N914 would serve them well. The v2 is supposedly even nicer than the original.

 

[Coatingsarecrack]

Thats weird, because i had a similar thought earlier about a bucket with gamma seal and rinseless, small pump sprayer etc

Yes to this being a semi. But also pertains in general to all

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Yeah I’ve found 2 gallon ones and that’s what I usually will do my Gary deans with…


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[Coatingsarecrack]

Todd at Esoteric said the same in a video a couple years ago. Just leave it and wash it later. I think he said something to the effect of he would rather own a dusty/dirty car with paint in great shape than a really clean car with paint that has swirls and/or scratches.

Yeah I remember that Esoteric video. There not a fan of rinsless either.


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[DFB]

I was going to say him^
I remember him saying that because of how much I disagreed with him. He said it in such a way that it was condescending. I didn’t like the way he said that.

…And then he went on to make that video where he’s hand washing that blue Ford GT and that video is full of errors like who the hell makes that many mistakes washing a car. I was practically yelling at my screen like this guys supposed to be an expert? Give me a break…

I don't like him full stop and refuse to watch any of their content. I've heard some shady things through the grape vine so I'm not gifting him view counts.

 

[Silly Rabbit]

I don't like him full stop and refuse to watch any of their content. I've heard some shady things through the grape vine so I'm not gifting him view counts.

I actually will.stand up for Todd. I have no affiliation with Esoteric. I was in Dayton 2 summers ago and decided to take a trip over to their shop, it was a 45 minute drive away, why not. Drove up no appointment, walked up and walked right into Todd, was treated like a long time friend. Super busy spot, crazy amount of nice rides. I bought nothing just walked up. Todd, very busy guy, never met me before, gave me a complete tour and talked away with me for at least 2 hours. This was a busy weekday. Only thing missing was beers in our hands. Just a super down to earth car guy with a level, 'one of the guys' personalities. He did have appinontments still to take care of, but chatted with me right up to the minute he couldn't. Again, I bought nothing, walked in a stranger.
I can't change or make one feel how they view someone from videos on youtube or such, but I can say I met the man once and can say he was a really nice, decent dude to me. And appeared so to all others that he talked to around while we chatted. And I know from the interaction I could walk in today and he would probably talk to me like we didn't miss a beat. Cause thats how it felt then. I think he's a decent guy.

 

[Bill D]

I'm really glad to hear there are such good guys still around They don't get enough credit and recognition.

 

[dlc95]

They probably all work similar enough.

I always enjoyed the Meguiar's Quik Deitailer though. That's going back to 1996!

 

[Coatingsarecrack]

Esoteric gets a pass from me for Budget Plan 1. One of the nicest persons I’ve never met. I trust his opinions about detailing.

If he was willing to leave a long standing job to go work for them and been there 1-2 years I gotta assume there good guys… I like there content as much as anyone else out there.


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[Coatingsarecrack]

I don't like him full stop and refuse to watch any of their content. I've heard some shady things through the grape vine so I'm not gifting him view counts.

Says the guy who shops at Obsessed….

Same has been said but ALOT more about Matt@Obsessed.

Matt seems like he could be Todd’s spoiled illegitimate son…

I still give him the benefit of the doubt. I didn’t at all like what he said and did with the Apex gen 1.

But I don’t black ball him tho….

I was not a fan of Todd to begin with but heard a lot of good things about Eaoteric

Then as mentioned BudgetPlan1 went to work there and he is a generous, gracious, helpful guy. One of the hood ones not here to often anymore.

I couldn’t see him no matter the situation working anyone douchey.


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