From here on out, ONLY Fuzion, Signature Series II, or Souveran for me!!

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I've always been a fan of applying liquid LSP's via DA(don't like doing it by hand). Initially, it seemed to be a pain to apply paste waxes via DA(taking it out of the tub, putting it back, etc..). However, I decided that it can't be that bad. So, I just received my mini pot of Fuzion today. I was going to wait until tomorrow to apply it, but I got too impatient and tried it on half of my roof. I used the Flex 3401(speed 3), flat blue pad, took the Fuzion out of the tub and spread it over the whole pad(I really like that). O M G, what a *BREEZE* to apply via DA, soooooo smooth, just like butter!! Also, just as important TO ME, my car is silver, and I've always *struggled* being able to see liquid LSP's on the paint, but not with Fuzion!!!! I could *easily* see the UNIFORM pattern of wax on my paint. There was *no* doubt that I covered every area. This is like a godsend to me!! Wiped it right off and that was an absolute BREEZE as well. I know for a fact that Sig Series II and Souveran apply and remove the same way, so I'd like to use those too. :buffing:
 
Nothing like quality wax to make that ride shine! :props:

I apply all my waxes and sealants at speed 3 as well.
 
Ease of use with these WOWO waxes is really hard to beat. It just makes the experience so much nicer.

I'm still not one to apply waxes (especially wowo ones) by machine, but I'm glad that they work well for you using that method.
 
Rob T said:
I'm still not one to apply waxes (especially wowo ones) by machine,
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Why is that? I feel a machine will give much more uniform coverage than by hand, regardless if it's a liquid or paste wax.
 
I'm still waiting for my budget to allow me to try fuzion and signature series II but I am really looking forward to using them. If they look as good as souveran that will be sweet.:dblthumb2:
 
07 z-oh-6 said:
Why is that? I feel a machine will give much more uniform coverage than by hand, regardless if it's a liquid or paste wax.
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I get much more enjoyment out of applying a wax (again, especially a high quality wowo like Fuzion, Dodo Juice etc.) by hand than I do by machine. Call it being "intimate" with the paint or whatever you want, I enjoy it. I've gone so far as to apply Dodo Juice Supernatural with my *bare* hands (no applicator). Talk about being involved and connected to the waxing process!

Waxing the car is one of my very favorite parts of detailing. It's the final step after all the long hours of machine polishing, so I look forward to putting the machine away and just using my hands. Applying it by machine actually reduces the pleasure and experience for me.

To quote Dennis Miller: "....but that's just me. I could be wrong."
 
Rob T said:
I get much more enjoyment out of applying a wax (again, especially a high quality wowo like Fuzion, Dodo Juice etc.) by hand than I do by machine. Call it being "intimate" with the paint or whatever you want, I enjoy it. I've gone so far as to apply Dodo Juice Supernatural with my *bare* hands (no applicator). Talk about being involved and connected to the waxing process!

Waxing the car is one of my very favorite parts of detailing. It's the final step after all the long hours of machine polishing, so I look forward to putting the machine away and just using my hands. Applying it by machine actually reduces the pleasure and experience for me.

To quote Dennis Miller: "....but that's just me. I could be wrong."
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Ahhhh, ok. This a a perfect example of, "to each their own". I'm the opposite, I enjoy applying LSP's much more via DA. Whatever makes us most happy, right? :)
 
I know this probably sounds really ridiculous. But, do you spread it on the pad with the machine off or on? I think I saw the video by Mike with it on.

LOL I know, I know, **** newbies.
 
WestEnd said:
I know this probably sounds really ridiculous. But, do you spread it on the pad with the machine off or on? I think I saw the video by Mike with it on.

LOL I know, I know, **** newbies.
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lol...No worries, bud. I see no reason to spread it with the DA turned on, but I guess you could do it either way.
 
07 z-oh-6 said:
Ahhhh, ok. This a a perfect example of, "to each their own". I'm the opposite, I enjoy applying LSP's much more via DA. Whatever makes us most happy, right? :)
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Well, yes, I would say that it is mostly a case of "to each his own", but there are some that say that bare hand waxing has benefits of it's own. This is from Victoria Wax (another wax that I've applied with bare hands):

Bare Hand Waxing!

Applying wax with the bare hands is not a new technique, it was used in the 60’s, and I suspect that it had been used by people at sometime or another over the last 100 years. It just produces some of the best possible looks and protection. Wax is at its very best when the wax from the original jar or tin is in that same concentrations. The hands are non-porous and no carrier solvents will be absorbed. What is in the jar or tin is now in the proper concentrations on the finish. Bare hand waxing will benefit any wax-based product by any manufacture. In the right hands it could make the difference between a good job and an excellent job.

If you are like me, waxing the finish is the final step and the most rewarding. One coat of wax is not enough and ten coats seems reasonable. We are all guilty of over using wax applicators to the point that we have to wring out the liquid solvent collected every once in a while to continue getting a good mix. And most of us seal the moist wax applicator back in the jar or tin to be ready for the next round of waxing.

I am not saying that any one particular technique is for everyone, I just know what I like and find rewarding. It is hard resisting going back to the container for more wax, but just keep on spreading and massaging in what you have. One of the biggest problems with using a wax applicator is that they can easily grab a sharp piece of sand and it can become embedded in the applicator. Without knowing it that sharp piece of rock is moved all over the surface starting what is later known as swirl marks. With the bare hands application that same piece of sharp sand would be detected and removed almost instantly. Swirl marks are a fact of life, but they can be reduced considerably.
 
When using your DA to apply the wax, I assume you still need to apply it by hand around the areas of the car where things stick out (like the area behind your front wheel in your picture). How close do you get before you worry about damage? Or is that not an issue with your pad choice and speed 3?
 
I apply paste by hand and just recently started applying liquid by machine. I really enjoy layering Souveran or Fuzion by hand.
 
you certainly chose 3 of the best pastes made ... but after Fuzion you might feel spoiled.
 
My Flex 3401 and tub of Signature Series II wax will be delivered tomorrow by UPS. Just how do you "remove the wax from tub" to apply it to pad? Difficult? In traditional applications with hand pads, I have never tried removing any brand of wax from tub. Any comments on Fuzion vs SS II over Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant on '09 metallic space gray BMW?

LHB
 
With my luck I'd remove the wax from the tub and it would slip out of my hands and land in the dirt. I use a 4" Cyclo finishing pad and place it on the machine and then place the pad in the tub and then turn the machine on then back off quickly and then start in the center of the panel and work outward. But I know that some tubs are too small for that.
 
tuscarora dave said:
With my luck I'd remove the wax from the tub and it would slip out of my hands and land in the dirt. I use a 4" Cyclo finishing pad and place it on the machine and then place the pad in the tub and then turn the machine on then back off quickly and then start in the center of the panel and work outward. But I know that some tubs are too small for that.
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Dave,
That would be nice but things don't usually work out that easy for me. I suspect my 6.5" pads will be too large for the SS II tub.

LHB
 
LHB1 said:
Dave,
That would be nice but things don't usually work out that easy for me. I suspect my 6.5" pads will be too large for the SS II tub.

LHB
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You would have to melt it down into a Frisbee to use my method with 6.5" pads. :laughing:
 
LHB1 said:
My Flex 3401 and tub of Signature Series II wax will be delivered tomorrow by UPS. Just how do you "remove the wax from tub" to apply it to pad? Difficult? In traditional applications with hand pads, I have never tried removing any brand of wax from tub. Any comments on Fuzion vs SS II over Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant on '09 metallic space gray BMW?

LHB
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Turn the tub of wax upside down, bang it against ur hand until it comes out. Then take the flat part of the wax and rub it against the face of the pad. It's very easy and I love it!
 
tuscarora dave said:
You would have to melt it down into a Frisbee to use my method with 6.5" pads.
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Now there's an idea. After melting it into a Frisbee, I could just sail/slide it along the car's surface and dispense with the applicator altogether. Would need a dependable partner to catch the frisbee before it hits the dirt though.

LHB
 
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