Product - "Drywash"

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Well, there has been a lot of talk lately about the "Drywash" that B&B has been using. With all the talk about it I wanted to test the product out for myself before I made an honest decision about the product. I can honestly say that it's different than your normal wash. It really reminds me more of a QD type procedure. In my opinion at least. I will not mention the product name due to AG does not sell it and I do not want to break any rules.

This is by no means a knock on the product or anyone who uses this product and in no way is it an endorsement for the product either. I encourage you to try the product and make your own decision.

The product comes in a 1 gallon concentrate that dilutes to 8:1. So, I mixed some up in my mercury pro+ spray bottle at an 8:1 ratio. And grabbed 4 quality MFs that I would use for an ONR wash.
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Pic of my hood before. Should note that I pressure washed my truck first as it was covered in sand, road salt, etc. And doing this type of wash I wanted to ensure I got everything I could off first.
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Unfortunately I didn't get a pic of the same spot after I washed it. I was actually looking for some swirls. The sun wasn't out today (rainy day) so I got my swirl finder light out hoping I could capture some. The pic you can see a few swirls. Nothing that really alarmed me since the truck had been subject to a brutal winter here and there were bound to be some scratches and slight swirls. This pic is pretty bad as I was having a hard time capturing them.
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Over all I don't think the product is really meant for a heavy cleaning like the salt and road grime that was on my truck. I did my typical wash routine by starting at the roof and working my way down. I ended up using 7 MF's total. I constantly was shaking out the MF or grabbing for a new one since I was really worried about dragging sand across the paint.

Before the "dry wash"
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After
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Definitely some streaking left over that wasn't buffed out (might be a few swirls I need to double check)
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So Pro's of this product
Ease of use - Spray on wipe off and then buff to a shine
No running water needed
1 gallon costs $90 and can be diluted 8:1.


Cons
Does not seem to carry the dirt away from the surface as well as say ONR or typical wash
Risk swirling the paint if you do not pay attention and use many clean MFs
Darkens plastic and can leave streaking
Use a lot of MF's
Having to wipe the paint roughly 3 times for a section. Spray and wipe dirt off, take clean MF and dry any remaining streaks, it hazes then you buff off. (I do not like having to touch the paint more than I have to)

The product most certainly may have been effected by the temp (roughly 43) so I do plan on doing another test run with it when my truck isn't as dirty and the temps are higher. I believe that it could be a great tool for a mobile detailer in the right conditions.

And after a sub par performance on the product (I was a little disappointed) I found this on my drivers side. Looks like someone rubbed against it and dragged the dirty and sand around...will be polishing this out in the spring. It's the line right about the middle of the pic.

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Just want to mention that this was not done to prove anyone wrong or right. Simply my own opinion of the product. I do not want this thread to turn into an argument.
 
SeaJay - Much thanks for the review, the more information the better. At $90/gal and you experience even after pressure washing the car before hand (IMO negating one of the most touted features of Drywash) I am going to stick with ONR for now.

Again, thanks for keeping an open mind and sharing your experience. I am going to follow Mike's advice, and 'go with what works for you'
 
Great review you wrote there. I dislike using any type of waterless wash on anything more than a slightly dusty car as there is never enough lubricity in them vs rinseless/conventionalwashes to safely remove dirt without harming the paint.

To start CG Ecosmart it was nothing more than a regular waterless wash like opti-clean or ultima WW. Also the fact that you used water and pressure washed the car first even negates the point of using a waterless wash like legacy said.
 
Great review! I used a drywash (don't really like this technique name since it makes it sound like someone grabbing a towel and rubbing the paint IMO) the other day and noticed quite a few swirls inflicted into the paint. It was my sisters car but she was just happy the paint was shiny again.

I will stick with ONR.
 
Have you ever tried any of the other "waterless" wash products? Opti-Clean, Ultimate Waterless, DP Waterless?
 
Great review. Did you let it sit on the truck for a 10-15 seconds before wiping it off? Do you think that scratch in the last pic is due to the wash or something unrelated? I think we're going to have to try this stuff side by side with the Opti-clean. I'm happy with that stuff but i have a light colored car so it's hard to tell.

but hey maybe you got a bad batch. I'll trade you some of mine for some of yours? lol
 
Great review and thank you for taking the time to try this system out for yourself. While I love ONR I have been very skeptical of the waterless wash systems for the exact reasons stated above. I have also wondered how this specific product worked.

I think B&B got a much more negative respone than he deserves with the tire cleaning post and waterless wash post. It takes a confident person to post a review of a product, a "how to"or share the specific procedure one follows when detailing.

The great thing about a forum is a person with questions can log on and get very accurate and correct answers. The not so great thing about a forum is, everyone knows everything. One can sit and read post after post, learn the correct way to do certain things and then turn right around and give advice in another post on how to do something 10 minutes later, all while never actually doing it themselves.

I am quite sure B&B has learned how to avoid the swirls and scratches while working on the 300+ vehicles he has used this system on. He just doesn't seem like the type of guy that would let that go on.

With all of that said, I want to make it known that this is not a rant of any sort and I am not trying to stick up for B&B because we are "buddies". I just think sometimes on these forums everyone jumps on a band wagon and good products get shelved.

Kinda stick to the old saying "Dont knock it till you try it"

Again, thank you for the unbiased review by sharing your findings.
 
tfullercdi said:
Great review and thank you for taking the time to try this system out for yourself. While I love ONR I have been very skeptical of the waterless wash systems for the exact reasons stated above. I have also wondered how this specific product worked.

I think B&B got a much more negative respone than he deserves with the tire cleaning post and waterless wash post. It takes a confident person to post a review of a product, a "how to"or share the specific procedure one follows when detailing.

The great thing about a forum is a person with questions can log on and get very accurate and correct answers. The not so great thing about a forum is, everyone knows everything. One can sit and read post after post, learn the correct way to do certain things and then turn right around and give advice in another post on how to do something 10 minutes later, all while never actually doing it themselves.

I am quite sure B&B has learned how to avoid the swirls and scratches while working on the 300+ vehicles he has used this system on. He just doesn't seem like the type of guy that would let that go on.

With all of that said, I want to make it known that this is not a rant of any sort and I am not trying to stick up for B&B because we are "buddies". I just think sometimes on these forums everyone jumps on a band wagon and good products get shelved.

Kinda stick to the old saying "Dont knock it till you try it"

Again, thank you for the unbiased review by sharing your findings.
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I totally agree. :dblthumb2:

I am sure B&B makes it work as we have all seen his work and it is phenomenal!

However, I can not seem to get the results I can achieve with ONR so I will continue to use ONR while playing with my technique when it comes to waterless washing.
 
I've never been a fan of waterless, or rinseless washes to begin with. I love ONR for a bunch of reasons other than using it as a wash. I'm a pressure washer man! Nice review though. I'm still interested in this product for it's ability to be polished. It sounds to me kinda like aquawax. I'm still gonna try it out some time! Thanks Jay! :props:
 
Sunstealer said:
Have you ever tried any of the other "waterless" wash products? Opti-Clean, Ultimate Waterless, DP Waterless?
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I haven't used any other ones other than ONR and DP Rinseless wash. Both of which I used with the 2 bucket system. Great results with both.

audilover said:
Great review. Did you let it sit on the truck for a 10-15 seconds before wiping it off? Do you think that scratch in the last pic is due to the wash or something unrelated? I think we're going to have to try this stuff side by side with the Opti-clean. I'm happy with that stuff but i have a light colored car so it's hard to tell.

but hey maybe you got a bad batch. I'll trade you some of mine for some of yours? lol
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I did let it sit on the truck for 10-15 seconds before wiping. I did send B&B a PM and explained my results to him and that I wasn't trying to bash him or anything on my review. He told me that it doesn't work well in colder temps. So, I think that might have a lot to do with my results. Again i'm going to test it again when it gets warmer.

As for the scratch it wasn't caused by the wash I did. At least I don't think it was. It appear that someone rubbed up against my truck while it was dirty, say in a parking lot or something.

tfullercdi said:
Great review and thank you for taking the time to try this system out for yourself. While I love ONR I have been very skeptical of the waterless wash systems for the exact reasons stated above. I have also wondered how this specific product worked.

I think B&B got a much more negative respone than he deserves with the tire cleaning post and waterless wash post. It takes a confident person to post a review of a product, a "how to"or share the specific procedure one follows when detailing.

The great thing about a forum is a person with questions can log on and get very accurate and correct answers. The not so great thing about a forum is, everyone knows everything. One can sit and read post after post, learn the correct way to do certain things and then turn right around and give advice in another post on how to do something 10 minutes later, all while never actually doing it themselves.

I am quite sure B&B has learned how to avoid the swirls and scratches while working on the 300+ vehicles he has used this system on. He just doesn't seem like the type of guy that would let that go on.

With all of that said, I want to make it known that this is not a rant of any sort and I am not trying to stick up for B&B because we are "buddies". I just think sometimes on these forums everyone jumps on a band wagon and good products get shelved.

Kinda stick to the old saying "Dont knock it till you try it"

Again, thank you for the unbiased review by sharing your findings.
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I completely agree. This review wasn't meant to deter anyone from trying the product or to show that it doesn't work. B&B definitely seemed to get a lot of negative feedback and I didn't want to jump on that band wagon without trying the product out for myself. And again what works for some people may not work for others. This having been the only time I've tried this product I'm more than willing to give it another try. I will not use it on a customer's car until I'm confident with it. If I use it a couple more times and still don't really like it it will go on the back shelf and probably won't be used. But obviously B&B is getting good results with it and his customers are happy.

I do think the product has potential with mobile detailers especially in areas where the temps are higher year round. Right now I'll stick to ONR. But this product will come out again in a month or so once the temps here get higher.
 
Kristopher1129 said:
I've never been a fan of waterless, or rinseless washes to begin with. I love ONR for a bunch of reasons other than using it as a wash. I'm a pressure washer man! Nice review though. I'm still interested in this product for it's ability to be polished. It sounds to me kinda like aquawax. I'm still gonna try it out some time! Thanks Jay! :props:
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If you want a sample to try out I can send you some. I have half a gallon of it! This way you can test it out before you purchase it. Just an option.
 
SeaJay's said:
If you want a sample to try out I can send you some. I have half a gallon of it! This way you can test it out before you purchase it. Just an option.
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Thanks Jay. I'll think about it. If the time comes where I actually might purchase some...I'll let you know. It seems a lot to me like AquaWax. I really like Malcos AquaWax. It can be polished even after drying in the sun. That's what I love about it. Sometimes in the summer I run $25 wash & express wax drive up specials and use AquaWax for that. :xyxthumbs:
 
Hey Jason,

Nice review on Drywash. :xyxthumbs:

How much different would Drywash be from lets say DP Waterless Wash? I mean; aren't they both doing the same thing?

I did my truck on Friday with DP Waterless Wash and it did a decent job. Keep in mind that the finish was slightly dirty and not covered in the winters grime.

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Before using this I've been using DP Rinseless Wash and Optimum No Rinse Wash. These seemed to do a pretty nice job for me throughout the winter. I decided to maintain my vehicles using this method just to test their viability.

As long as I was careful both DP Rinseless Wash and Optimum No Rinse Wash left the finish clean and scratch free. I think this is a great product for winter use or someone that's in an area where water's restricted.

Man, $90.00 / gallon, they don't give this stuff away do they!
 
At $90 a gallon it is the concentrate version I think. On Amazon the concentrate (diluted 1:7 I think) sells for $90 while the RTU is $21.
 
Shawn T. said:
At $90 a gallon it is the concentrate version I think. On Amazon the concentrate (diluted 1:7 I think) sells for $90 while the RTU is $21.
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Yeah Shawn, you're correct. They sell both versions. The concentrated gallon makes a LOT of bottles.
 
I'm scared to even try ONR.. Even though a good chunk of you guys swear by it. To be honest, i dont know if i could try something like this if they paid me $90 to take the gallon.. Something just doesnt seem right about it. Seems like more trouble than its worth even if it worked.
 
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