12 washes with ONR (heavy pic's)

[IID]

When I first started to use ONR I was reading about (few) forum members that they were concerned about the product marring/scratching their vehicles paint.
So I wanted to see with the ONR and the right technique,if I could avoid causing damage to one of my DD vehicle paint.
Today is the (12th) latest wash I did with ONR on my DD that see's alot of windshield time and in the winter,ton's of road salt.
Now mind you when there is excessive road salt/dirt on my DD,I take it to the local car wash and do a quick rinse down (water only) to blast off what I can of the salt/dirt.I then drive the DD back home in the garage and turn on the garage heater.I fill up a 5gallon bucket (with GritGaurd)with 4 gallons of water after putting in 4oz of ONR.I then start from the top and work my way down the vehicle with a Opti-Mitt.Every predetermined section, I rinse the mitt and scrub it against the GritGaurd.

I was going to do all the befores first and follow up with all the afters second but,felt the viewers could get a good comparison doing it this way.
Here are some Before/Afters.

And here's a couple more that show's NO induced swirls or scratches:

Like I mentioned above,this is after using ONR 12 times (kept track) on this vehicle.I am a huge fan of ONR and the Opti-Mitt and don't see that changing anytime soon.I also don't see using too much car shampoo this spring/summer/fall on customers/personal vehicles.

For the AG Forum members that have still NOT tried ONR or DP Rinseless,give it a try.With the right technique and common sense,these rinseless products will be your friend.

Thanks for looking.:xyxthumbs:

 

[fancyfootwork]

Finally a true before/after demonstration of some real road salt! I might just have to pick some of this up.... and a heater for my garage. haha.

 

[Dr Oldz]

Looks good! Are you using two buckets or just one?

 

[arkus]

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[kronos]

Great post! I have ONR, but have never used it to wash my car. I think I may try it this weekend for the first time. Thanks!

 

[DetailedByPrecision]

can someone explain how to use ONR? do you use it like regular car soap and clean it with a sheepskin mitt? Or is there some specific technique you're suppose to use? I cant seem to tell what's the difference between a regular car wash with soap and this besides you don't use a hose and instead use water/soap from a bucket.

 

[Chris Thomas]

Chris, that's an excellent demonstration. What did you use to wash? Optimitt, Microfiber, other...

 

[Kristopher1129]

I use ONR at my shop. But, I use it after the vehicle has been washed. I find it just does a better job of making completely sure the surface is dirt/salt free. I just mix some up in a spray bottle and touchup the vehicle as needed.

I could see it being useful for vehicles that are fairly clean. But, when the vehicles come in looking as dirty as the one in these pictures...I don't see the point in using just ONR. If you're not pressure washing the vehicle...you're missing a lot of hidden dirt and salt. The surface may look clean, but there's risk for rust to form in those hidden spots. At least I think so...

 

[LuxuryMobile]

What a cool thread displaying how safe ONR really is.

A question I have for you, and one i'm still searching for an answer myself, "how do you quickly educate a customer and justify doing an ONR wash on a customers car, who for years have become so used to seeing a typical car wash process (i.e. foamy soap, hose, etc.)?

I agree that these are simpler, more time efficient and environmentally friendly. Just wondering how people go about explaining to their clients the difference or do some just do it without explaining.

 

[IID]

Looks good! Are you using two buckets or just one?

I only use (1) bucket.But you can use (2) to be a little safer.I never had a problem yet using one.

 

[builthatch]

What a cool thread displaying how safe ONR really is.

A question I have for you, and one i'm still searching for an answer myself, "how do you quickly educate a customer and justify doing an ONR wash on a customers car, who for years have become so used to seeing a typical car wash process (i.e. foamy soap, hose, etc.)?

I agree that these are simpler, more time efficient and environmentally friendly. Just wondering how people go about explaining to their clients the difference or do some just do it without explaining.

just tell them it has been the standard amongs the boutique detail crowd for years, and was developed by an ph.D organic chemist who used to work for auto paint companies.

let them know that the polymers encapsulate the dirt and eliminate the need for all of the rinsing.

 

[IID]

Chris, that's an excellent demonstration. What did you use to wash? Optimitt, Microfiber, other...

Hey Chris.
In my original post I mention working from the top down,using the Opti-Mittrops:

 

[IID]

just tell them it has been the standard amongs the boutique detail crowd for years, and was developed by an organic chemist who used to work for auto paint companies.

let them know that the polymers encapsulate the dirt and eliminate the needs for all of the rinsing.

That sounds pretty good.

 

[TornadoRed]

What a cool thread displaying how safe ONR really is.

A question I have for you, and one i'm still searching for an answer myself, "how do you quickly educate a customer and justify doing an ONR wash on a customers car, who for years have become so used to seeing a typical car wash process (i.e. foamy soap, hose, etc.)?

I agree that these are simpler, more time efficient and environmentally friendly. Just wondering how people go about explaining to their clients the difference or do some just do it without explaining.

This is actually pretty tough to do nowadays with so much distrust in science (at least here in Idaho where we aint gonna let no dangnabbit fornirs tell us how we should be doing things).
I watched a detailing demonstration for a bunch of old timers and their car club and they refused to believe what they were seeing with their own eyes.

 

[Grizzly]

I use ONR at my shop. But, I use it after the vehicle has been washed. I find it just does a better job of making completely sure the surface is dirt/salt free. I just mix some up in a spray bottle and touchup the vehicle as needed.

I could see it being useful for vehicles that are fairly clean. But, when the vehicles come in looking as dirty as the one in these pictures...I don't see the point in using just ONR. If you're not pressure washing the vehicle...you're missing a lot of hidden dirt and salt. The surface may look clean, but there's risk for rust to form in those hidden spots. At least I think so...

I agree.

No way ONR can get tires, wells, and crevices clean.

You need a PW or at least a regular soapy water wash.

 

[LuxuryMobile]

ONR may be fitting for the right client and the right vehicles. For others maybe not so much. Guess its good to be able to perform both.

 

[IID]

I agree.

No way ONR can get tires, wells, and crevices clean.

You need a PW or at least a regular soapy water wash.

The reason I took the time tonight to do this thread and post the pictures was not to debate what ONR can and can't clean,it was to show ONR after (12) washes caused NO swirls or scratches (for me).

 

[Dr Oldz]

The reason I took the time tonight to do this thread and post the pictures was not to debate what ONR can and can't clean,it was to show ONR after (12) washes caused NO swirls or scratches (for me).

Thanks for posting!!!! I just may have to try rinseless washes more often when applicable!

 

[Kristopher1129]

The reason I took the time tonight to do this thread and post the pictures was not to debate what ONR can and can't clean,it was to show ONR after (12) washes caused NO swirls or scratches (for me).

The color of your vehicle isn't really prone to exposing scratches very well. I'd like to see 12 ONR washes on a brand new black vehicle. I guarantee there would be scratches.

Your color is just easily maintained, just like silver. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying as a shop owner running a detail business...this process would absolutely not fly regardless of the outcome of your test.

ONR is a risky product to clean a vehicle that has heavy dirt and grime. The reasons for this are obvious. Regardless of the lubricity of a product...you are still dragging, and swirling that dirt and grime around. Take a swirl light to your paint, and look real close...there's scratches, guaranteed. Luckily, the color of your vehicle is very friendly. Black, is not so forgiving. That's just my two cents.:bolt:

 

[shrtbull]

Impressive! I"ve used the DP Rinceless a couple of times now and have been impressed with it too! Plan on using it tomorrow. Did you use it on the wheels or something else?rops: